Cancellation Fee for SP leases

in minnowbooster •  5 years ago 



It has come to our attention that a user has been actively exploiting a memo vulnerability on our side, creating leases and cancelling them right after to profit from additional memos from us.

To mitigate this attack vector, we have now decided to introduce a cancellation fee for STEEM POWER leases.

For now, the fee will be 0.010 STEEM and is deducted from the refunded STEEM. With rising STEEM price, this amount will likely be reduced, as it's only intended to avoid losses, not to be a source of income.

Please note that this fee will only apply to cancelled or unfulfilled leases.

If you have your lease request fulfilled, only the standard 10% escrow fees and conditions apply.

To avoid having to pay the cancellation fee, please make sure that the APR you offer is attractive to delegators, to ensure the lease has a good chance to be fulfilled.



Of course, a higher APR tends to have a higher chance of fulfilment, but you also have the option to check which APRs are usually attractive enough for investors.



We want to thank everyone for understanding our reasons to do this, and are looking forward to the promising future of the Steem blockchain!

Soon we will be announcing a full migration of leasing services to dlease.io which will use different memo logic, at which point we will potentially be able to reduce this cancellation fee to a tighter value.



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Sry that I laugh about this, but this guy must be really desperate if he is farming 0.002 SBD from minnowbooster memos and cancelling them :D that's a lot of effort for basically nothing, unless he does it with a bot 24/7.

Let's do it by yourselves. We usually reward customers who report errors, rather than suspicion and disgrace them.
你们自己看着办吧.我们通常会奖励报告错误的顾客,而不是怀疑、丑化他们.

你见过这样的小偷吗?---》告诉你们家安保太差,经常出问题,我都到你家来偷东西了.
You've seen thieves tell you that the security of your house is too poor. There are often problems. I'm stealing your money at this time by the way which I report to you here.


chat with dlease.io in their discord channel:
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I think he was botting with several accounts, we thought we just weren't making money on SBD vote selling due to HF, but turns out was this guy, I mean how low man, things like this really make me sad to see the low calibre of some people on Steem. Payouts to buildteam stakeholders are not going to be great this period, so affected alot of people. It is pretty riduculous and somewhat funny, lol he even told guiltyparties he will stop scamming minnowbooster, loool admitted to scamming.

Yes, that's sad. But I don't understand how you did not catch thousands of cancellations earlier?

I do not finished any cancellation,I'm always failed, and alway in their discord to report . at end, all order is cancel by themself(it's good news for me).
i cancel order just to make high APR order to replace the old low APR order,because high APR can be match as early as possible.

by the way,report bug to platform office and then result to self be suspicion and disgrace,it's fantastic story

@acu.funder you have been exploiting the service for a long time, frequent gifted lease creations and profiting from the additional memo gifted leases receive, you have drained much of our profits over time. It was delberate and the fact that you cancelled almost immediately means you knew what you were doing and did it deliberately.

You only came to us when we seized your open orders to cover the exploit; you have been doing over and over for a month now. Only when we touched your pocket back did you come pretending to report an issue that you have known about for a month.

this is english edition of upper chinsese comments reply:

Your expression is not simple and clear enough, and I do not know what you mean by "frequent gifted lease creations and profiling from the additional memory gifted leaves receive, you have drawn much of our profiles over time."

I only emphasize two simple points, so that people with normal intelligence can understand the truth here:

  1. up to now, I have never successfully cancelled any order from dlease.io, and finally you cancelled my order; however, the first time I actively communicated with you about the bug of cancelation operation in your discord office support channel, it brought your suspicion of my theft.

  2. I use the rental SP service in dlease.io completely according to the process set by your platform. No matter who makes money or suffers losses, they should bear it. Otherwise, you should not provide this service, and I should not use this service. Adults should not be responsible for their own choice.

by the way:

  1. I tried to cancel the low APR order that hasn't been completed for a long time on dlease.io. I wanted to change it to a high APR order just to close the deal as soon as possible, but I never successfully cancelled a single order in dlease.io, which is obviously your bug. When I first found out, I left a message on your discord support channel, screenshot, you haven't solved it for me so far.

  2. if you haven't solved the problem of canceling a large number of low APR's, I wonder if there is something wrong with my authorization in steemconnect, so I tried to modify the key several times to retry the cancellation operation on dlease.io, but it never succeeded.

  3. up to now, I have never cancelled any order from dlease.io.

We didn’t have monitoring setup for cancelled leases as we didn’t consider cancellations to be an attack vector until now.

Let's do it by yourselves. We usually reward customers who report errors, rather than suspicion and disgrace them.
你们自己看着办吧.我们通常会奖励报告错误的顾客,而不是怀疑、丑化他们.

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

by the way, i find my words in dicord is re color, and then i don't know what's meaning. and now ,i know i have missing many word in chat with you and @GuiltyParties [.com].

but , i chat with @GuiltyParties [.com] because he notice me that my account be stolen @nomzy. and he say my transaction with MB(MB.net),I tell him that i have test MB servie to study few time and stop the test at that time of the same day (not at chat with @GuiltyParties, and before he notice my account be stolen event). i use dlease.io SP service in commonly replace MB.net before he notice my account be stolen event.

and then i report cancellation erro in your discord channel with @admin at the first time when find the error. you can find any info about this from your discord channel and my order history in you dlease.io and MB.net.

I talk about MB, just is MB.net/MB.com, not the dlease.io

mb.net and dlease.io use the same backend = same service.

@acu.funder you have been exploiting the service for a long time, frequent gifted lease creations and profiting from the additional memo gifted leases receive, you have drained much of our profits over time. It was delberate and the fact that you cancelled almost immediately means you knew what you were doing and did it deliberately.

You only came to us when we seized your open orders to cover the exploit; you have been doing over and over for a month now. Only when we touched your pocket back did you come pretending to report an issue that you have known about for a month.

你的表达不够简单明了,也不知道你所说的“frequent gifted lease creations and profiting from the additional memo gifted leases receive, you have drained much of our profits over time.”

我只强调简单的两点,以便正常智商的人能明白这里的道理:
1)截止到目前,我从未从dlease.io上成功取消过任何订单,最后是你们取消了我的订单;但第一时间跟你们的积极沟通cancellation操作的bug,却换来了你们对我盗窃的怀疑
2)我在dlease.io使用租赁SP服务,完全是按你们平台制定的流程操作,无论谁赚便宜和吃亏,都应该要承受,否则你们不应该提供这个服务、我不该使用这个服务.成年人不该为自己的选择,让别人承担责任;
3)我在MB.net/MB.com使用的是buy vote操作,但显然首次buy是吃亏的,所以多试了几次,看看随机还是必然的结果.这主要是因为MB.net/MB.com的服务说明对于中文用户来说,有点逻辑混乱,不如dlease.io的服务说明更容易让人理解.也是这个原因,同样的SP租赁,我们选择dlease.io而不是MB.net/MB.com.至于这两者后台是否都是你们,这对于用户使用来说,并没有什么影响,也不是我要跟你讨论的事情有关的原因.
3)我在dlease.io上尝试取消长时间没完成的低APR订单,想修改为高APR订单,只是为了尽快成交,但从未在dlease.io成功撤销过一单,这明显是你们的bug.我在首次发现时,就在你们discord支持频道留言,截图了,你们一直没有解决.
4)在你们没有解决我大量低APR需要取消的情况下,我在怀疑是不是我在steemconnect的授权出了问题,所以几次尝试修改密钥,重现操作dlease.io上的取消订单操作,但也从未成功过.
5)截止到目前,我也从未从dlease.io上取消过任何订单

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

this is english edition of upper chinsese comments reply:

Your expression is not simple and clear enough, and I do not know what you mean by "frequent gifted lease creations and profiling from the additional memory gifted leaves receive, you have drawn much of our profiles over time."

I only emphasize two simple points, so that people with normal intelligence can understand the truth here:

  1. up to now, I have never successfully cancelled any order from dlease.io, and finally you cancelled my order; however, the first time I actively communicated with you about the bug of cancelation operation in your discord office support channel, it brought your suspicion of my theft.

  2. I use the rental SP service in dlease.io completely according to the process set by your platform. No matter who makes money or suffers losses, they should bear it. Otherwise, you should not provide this service, and I should not use this service. Adults should not be responsible for their own choice.

by the way:

  1. I tried to cancel the low APR order that hasn't been completed for a long time on dlease.io. I wanted to change it to a high APR order just to close the deal as soon as possible, but I never successfully cancelled a single order in dlease.io, which is obviously your bug. When I first found out, I left a message on your discord support channel, screenshot, you haven't solved it for me so far.

  2. if you haven't solved the problem of canceling a large number of low APR's, I wonder if there is something wrong with my authorization in steemconnect, so I tried to modify the key several times to retry the cancellation operation on dlease.io, but it never succeeded.

  3. up to now, I have never cancelled any order from dlease.io.

@acu.funder you have been exploiting the service for a long time, frequent gifted lease creations and profiting from the additional memo gifted leases receive, you have drained much of our profits over time.

That certainly explains their mass comment farming.

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

i'm newbie in use discord, my op is bad without screenshot .

this is the chat history with :

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big oof, call him out

I'm here! and @downscaner have report the chat history under the post.
this is my word leave for them:


Let's do it by yourselves. We usually reward customers who report errors, rather than suspicion and disgrace them.
你们自己看着办吧.我们通常会奖励报告错误的顾客,而不是怀疑、丑化他们.

@acu.funder you have been exploiting the service for a long time, frequent gifted lease creations and profiting from the additional memo gifted leases receive, you have drained much of our profits over time. It was delberate and the fact that you cancelled almost immediately means you knew what you were doing and did it deliberately.

You only came to us when we seized your open orders to cover the exploit; you have been doing over and over for a month now. Only when we touched your pocket back did you come pretending to report an issue that you have known about for a month.

this is english edition of upper chinsese comments reply:

Your expression is not simple and clear enough, and I do not know what you mean by "frequent gifted lease creations and profiling from the additional memory gifted leaves receive, you have drawn much of our profiles over time."

I only emphasize two simple points, so that people with normal intelligence can understand the truth here:

  1. up to now, I have never successfully cancelled any order from dlease.io, and finally you cancelled my order; however, the first time I actively communicated with you about the bug of cancelation operation in your discord office support channel, it brought your suspicion of my theft.

  2. I use the rental SP service in dlease.io completely according to the process set by your platform. No matter who makes money or suffers losses, they should bear it. Otherwise, you should not provide this service, and I should not use this service. Adults should not be responsible for their own choice.

by the way:

  1. I tried to cancel the low APR order that hasn't been completed for a long time on dlease.io. I wanted to change it to a high APR order just to close the deal as soon as possible, but I never successfully cancelled a single order in dlease.io, which is obviously your bug. When I first found out, I left a message on your discord support channel, screenshot, you haven't solved it for me so far.

  2. if you haven't solved the problem of canceling a large number of low APR's, I wonder if there is something wrong with my authorization in steemconnect, so I tried to modify the key several times to retry the cancellation operation on dlease.io, but it never succeeded.

  3. up to now, I have never cancelled any order from dlease.io.

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If there's a penny on the ground, someone will pick it up. It's unfortunate someone decided to take your entire jar full of pennies...

Let's do it by yourselves. We usually reward customers who report errors, rather than suspicion and disgrace them.
你们自己看着办吧.我们通常会奖励报告错误的顾客,而不是怀疑、丑化他们.

@acu.funder you have been exploiting the service for a long time, frequent gifted lease creations and profiting from the additional memo gifted leases receive, you have drained much of our profits over time. It was delberate and the fact that you cancelled almost immediately means you knew what you were doing and did it deliberately.

You only came to us when we seized your open orders to cover the exploit; you have been doing over and over for a month now. Only when we touched your pocket back did you come pretending to report an issue that you have known about for a month.

this is english edition of upper chinsese comments reply:

Your expression is not simple and clear enough, and I do not know what you mean by "frequent gifted lease creations and profiling from the additional memory gifted leaves receive, you have drawn much of our profiles over time."

I only emphasize two simple points, so that people with normal intelligence can understand the truth here:

  1. up to now, I have never successfully cancelled any order from dlease.io, and finally you cancelled my order; however, the first time I actively communicated with you about the bug of cancelation operation in your discord office support channel, it brought your suspicion of my theft.

  2. I use the rental SP service in dlease.io completely according to the process set by your platform. No matter who makes money or suffers losses, they should bear it. Otherwise, you should not provide this service, and I should not use this service. Adults should not be responsible for their own choice.

by the way:

  1. I tried to cancel the low APR order that hasn't been completed for a long time on dlease.io. I wanted to change it to a high APR order just to close the deal as soon as possible, but I never successfully cancelled a single order in dlease.io, which is obviously your bug. When I first found out, I left a message on your discord support channel, screenshot, you haven't solved it for me so far.

  2. if you haven't solved the problem of canceling a large number of low APR's, I wonder if there is something wrong with my authorization in steemconnect, so I tried to modify the key several times to retry the cancellation operation on dlease.io, but it never succeeded.

  3. up to now, I have never cancelled any order from dlease.io.

That's right :) reaching into the donation box. Oh well, it wasn't too bad, just means one and a bit unprofitable periods.

你见过这样的小偷吗?---》告诉你们家安保太差,经常出问题,我都到你家来偷东西了.
You've seen thieves tell you that the security of your house is too poor. There are often problems. I'm stealing your money at this time by the way which I report to you here.

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@acu.funder you have been exploiting the service for a long time, frequent gifted lease creations and profiting from the additional memo gifted leases receive, you have drained much of our profits over time. It was delberate and the fact that you cancelled almost immediately means you knew what you were doing and did it deliberately.

You only came to us when we seized your open orders to cover the exploit; you have been doing over and over for a month now. Only when we touched your pocket back did you come pretending to report an issue that you have known about for a month.

this is english edition of upper chinsese comments reply:

Your expression is not simple and clear enough, and I do not know what you mean by "frequent gifted lease creations and profiling from the additional memory gifted leaves receive, you have drawn much of our profiles over time."

I only emphasize two simple points, so that people with normal intelligence can understand the truth here:

  1. up to now, I have never successfully cancelled any order from dlease.io, and finally you cancelled my order; however, the first time I actively communicated with you about the bug of cancelation operation in your discord office support channel, it brought your suspicion of my theft.

  2. I use the rental SP service in dlease.io completely according to the process set by your platform. No matter who makes money or suffers losses, they should bear it. Otherwise, you should not provide this service, and I should not use this service. Adults should not be responsible for their own choice.

by the way:

  1. I tried to cancel the low APR order that hasn't been completed for a long time on dlease.io. I wanted to change it to a high APR order just to close the deal as soon as possible, but I never successfully cancelled a single order in dlease.io, which is obviously your bug. When I first found out, I left a message on your discord support channel, screenshot, you haven't solved it for me so far.

  2. if you haven't solved the problem of canceling a large number of low APR's, I wonder if there is something wrong with my authorization in steemconnect, so I tried to modify the key several times to retry the cancellation operation on dlease.io, but it never succeeded.

  3. up to now, I have never cancelled any order from dlease.io.

maybe it's good to show you the truth, please read my reply at :chat-history

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It looks like came time to lease more SP! Thank you for cool news!

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It's always time to lease more SP :)

Espesially now with new steem! ☝️

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Interesting

Today i still not get my profit from SP lease . Why

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Yeah we're aware, because of a library failure a bunch of payments to steem failed. We spent today calculating which ones are missing, in the next days we'll refund the missing payments.

Payment now sent, we are still processing other people.

I haven't received a rental for my sp for the last 2 days.

Yeah we're aware, because of a library failure a bunch of payments to steem failed. We spent today calculating which ones are missing, in the next days we'll refund the missing payments.

that's cute but i didnt get last night's share , @minnowbooster ,

delegated to :
kharma.scribbles 299.700 15.6 % 35.7 % 9 days

which already puts my fee at 0.172 towards you ... could you please look into and fix and make sure i get what i paid for, thanks ...

Yeah we're aware, because of a library failure a bunch of payments to steem failed. We spent today calculating which ones are missing, in the next days we'll refund the missing payments.

Payment now sent to you, we are still processing other people.

hm, well at least you get reactions on the feed but,

i hate to be the nag but even if todays payment came through yesterdays' is still missing ... so that's 0.172 short ... i dont know how you usually fix that but im kinda hoping you DO fix that ?
i wont cancel the lease because i feel the people using your service dont need to be deprived and punished because your system had a glitch (let's call it that) but its still 0.172 short, the amount is irrelevant, even if it was 0.001 :)

i'll eagerly await the funds im not sure i check this ... this is probably the first time i post anything on this account and SADLY, the steemit-way

its a complaint again :)
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Yeah we're aware, because of a library failure a bunch of payments to steem failed. We spent today calculating which ones are missing, in the next days we'll refund the missing payments.