Why I Left Canada and Became A Citizen of the Dominican Republic

in money •  8 years ago  (edited)

It took nearly ten years but this morning I was sworn in as a citizen of the Dominican Republic.

Many might ask, why would a Canadian citizen want to become a citizen of the Dominican Republic?

The answer is actually quite long and lengthy.

To begin with, as an anarcho-capitalist I consider governments to be illegitimate and taxation to be theft. However, the entire world, unfortunately, is covered in statism like a giant skin rash... and so, then, the next best option if you want to live somewhat of a normal life and be able to travel is to become a citizen of the best country that suits your personal needs.

I was born in Canada but I would never say I am a "proud Canadian". The reason is that you cannot be proud of something you had nothing to do with. I was just born there... and that made me a Canadian citizen... and, apparently, I owed the government about half of whatever I make in my life for that "privilege".

There are certainly some things I love about the geographic region of Canada. I'm a life long hockey fan which I consider to be the best sport in the world (along with Mixed Martial Arts)... and Canada is ALL about hockey. It could be dead in the heat of summer (which lasts for 6 weeks) and all anyone talks about is hockey. And, there are plenty of other things to like about Canada too. But given the high level of socialism/statism and the incredibly cold temperatures, it definitely wasn't enough to make me want to give up half my life earnings just to stay there.

Plus, after having traveled to about 100 countries and having lived in many of them, I know that life almost anywhere else is often just as good or, in many cases, much better than in Canada.

So, that explains why I wanted to look for a new country/government to own me.

If you are going to be owned by someone, the next best thing to do is to choose the best owner!

If you have millions of dollars, finding a good owner is quite easy. Many billionaires have moved to and become citizens of low-tax Singapore for this reason. There are other countries which are even better and have 0% income tax, but almost all require an investment of at least $500,000 and most are well over $1 million.

At the time, when I began shopping for a new owner in 2006, that amount of money was out of my budget.

The Dominican Republic (DR), back then, had a two year residency that would lead to citizenship. And, the costs weren't too much. So I jumped at it.

But, just as my two year residency was coming up the DR government changed it to three years. "OK, I can wait another year," I thought.

Then when the three years was nearly up they changed it to four... then five... then seven, and now eight!

I just reached the eighth year of residency last year and finally, I was eligible to be a citizen! I applied over a year ago and as of just today I am finally a citizen of the DR. A total of nearly ten years!

Around Year 5 of the process I asked my lawyers, one of the top legal firms on the island, why they kept making it harder and harder to become a citizen. Their answer, "The US government is putting pressure on us and most other countries to make it harder to become a citizen." (Note: this has occurred in almost every country in the world... which has caused countless problems for those trying to attain a second citizenship... it is getting nearly impossible)

Now, why would the US government do that? The answer is simple. The US government has become one of the most tyrannical and money-thirsty governments in the world. Every quarter, new records are broken of Americans renouncing their citizenship. Even corporations are leaving the US en masse, due to the US now having the highest corporate tax rate in the world. And it isn't far behind on personal income tax, with people in certain states in the US paying more than 50% income tax. And that's before all the other hundreds of taxes including property tax, capital gains tax, dividends tax, food tax, liquor tax, cigarette tax and, they even tax you when you die in the US, called the "estate tax".

At the end of it, some Americans are likely being taxed at a true rate of upwards of 70%. 100% is communism... so, the US is now 70% communist. Nearly full commie. Never go full commie!

As for Canada, it is similar. A report came out just today entitled, "Study: Canadians spend more on taxes than basic needs".

It stated, "Last year, Canadian families spent more than 42% of their income on taxes and 38% on food, shelter and clothing combined."

And it went on to say:

Since 1961, "taxes have grown much more rapidly than any other single expenditure for the average Canadian family," the report states. Taxes have increased by 1,939% in that timeframe, while the amount spent on housing has gone up by 1,425%, clothing by 746%, and food by 645%.
To compare, the top tax rate in the DR is 25%. That is still 25% too high, in my opinion, but you are only taxed on money made in the DR. For someone like me who makes all of his income outside of the DR, I therefore have a 0% income tax rate.

As well, the DR is not involved in terrorist activity, like Canada and the US. The DR has not been bombing men, women and children in Libya nor Syria... it's just nice not to be in any way involved with those acts of murder.

And, in my 10 years of residency in the DR, although I have spent the vast majority of my time across the world, I have actually really grown to love the culture and people.

Racism barely exists in the DR as Dominicans have complexions from the blackest black to the whitest white and they all seem to get along perfectly well.

And, others have noticed too. There were nearly 100 other people sworn in with me today and I believe over 40 nationalities were represented, including the US, Canada, Germany, France, Spain, Russia and many more.

Perhaps the icing on the cake is that the DR is a small country. You can, very easily, and very quickly get top level connections and I have already gotten those.

Through various people I know, I already have connections to most of the top levels of government people. In fact, just today, I sent off some copies of The Market For Liberty (the Spanish translated version done by my friend Jorge Trucco) to various high level government officials.

Apparently, they are open to ideas on how to improve life in the DR (that's pretty rare for government people) and are open to these ideas of free markets. I am looking forward to my conversation with them on getting rid of their central bank and instituting bitcoin and Steem as their national currency.

So, for all of the reasons above I have happily become a citizen of the Dominican Republic, a place that treats me quite a bit better than the place I was born.

And, in our next issue of the TDV newsletter (see more here), I'll tell subscribers some tips on getting DR residency and citizenship that I have learned over the last decade.

In the meantime, Canada, you can keep all your socialism, regulations, police state, government "medical care" that nearly killed my Mom, taxes and wars.

I'll still enjoy watching hockey, but it'll be on a flat screen TV either on the beach in Anarchapulco or on the beach in the DR.

Adios Canada!

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Jeff,
I am a Canadian born living still in Canada and I share much of the same beliefs as you. Being middle aged of modest income with a family I don't feel leaving is an option, so I hope for the best and hope that one day attitudes will begin to change in Canada and USA.

It's often depressing to see 1/2 of your income taken away by sanctioned theft. The communist ideals are becoming more mainstream in Canada. True free thinking individuals are becoming rarer here in Canada.

Canadians tend to rally around a culture of perceived moral superiority over Americans and that blinds us to how we are being swindled of our freedom in the very same manner. Thanks for sharing!

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Leaving is an option. Panama has cheap and easy residency, awesome economy, lots of freedom. Sell your overvalued house and get out :)

I agree that leaving is an option, but I surely would not choose Panama to go to.... search on Youtube for videos on Panama City and Colon... see for yourself... also the weather is really shitty... almost always rainy... thats how the Canal gets its water... there are better and much cheaper options in Latinamerica...

No expats live in Colon lol. Check out Coronado, where it almost never rains at the beach, or Boquete in the mountains with springlike temps all year

The azuero peninsula of panama is home to one of the few tropical dry forests, getting less than 39 inches per yr of rain.

So 1 meter of rain you call dry?! Poor children who would drown there! ;)

I agree there's always options, but with a family and perhaps a spouse who's not on the same page regarding such things - leaving would likely involve breaking up a marriage and leaving behind my children and its just not worth it any longer. I'm resolved to toughing it out I suppose.

"Canadians tend to rally around a culture of perceived moral superiority over Americans and that blinds us to how we are being swindled of our freedom in the very same manner."

This is so true. You phrased it really well.

Good for you. So are you still going to use the health care system of Canada by returning to Canada every 6 months? Are you going to educate your children there? I've been to the Dominican Republic and the mix of people are very easy on the eyes. Good looking men, women, and transexuals - there is something for everyone. You'd be a catch for anyone you set your sights on. Finally, there IS subtle racism there. DR people dislike Haitians with whom they share the island. Anyone even remotely looking Haitian is not treated well. Lastly, beware of huriccane season which you are in right now. It lasts from May to the end of November every year.

You seem to be a strong willed person. Everyone has their own beliefs, but for various reasons, many people can not stick to it, give up the. For your persistence!

Jeff & Freeinthought,
Do you see any advantages of being a Canadian citizen over a U.S. citizen? I am currently in the United States, but near the border. If these are your only two options, which would you choose?

Well its a hard question to answer. Both countries are very similar in the direction they are headed. Canada may have some advantages such as larger land area and lower population. We tend to have a 'polite' culture. Certain things are not tolerated as much such as overly violent reactions of the state. Perhaps this is due to the general aversion to guns. This of course has it's down side though. Guns are increasingly demonized here and it's much easier for authorities to sell more gun control policies.

I'm biased as a Canadian so I would personally stick with Canada if given a choice. However there's clear advantages to the USA. Keep in mind both are still pretty similar in the end when it comes to encroachment on rights and freedoms. Toss us.

Hey, im a free thinking canadian as well :)

Damn,I wish I could get a text whenever you post LOL! I am late by 1 hour. I love your post, I live in the US and taxes are way too freaking high. I think it's ridiculous that the government does so little for us, Yet they devour our money to spend.. ON what!? Garbage? Not worth it! How are we supposed to keep ourselves alive if they take so much. I recently became self employed and I was told that I would have to pay 39% of my wages in tax! I am glad you were brave enough to leave the country, I definitely want to look into that soon.

To adhere to their own dreams and beliefs is very difficult, it is easy to do difficult!

So true :)

... 10 years later ...

What?

You can do the same in 10 years, since it takes that long w/ citizenships.

I left Canada 17 years ago and haven't looked back. I spent one 6 month period there about 6 years ago and that was enough to convince me my exodus would be permanent. The population, like you said, has embraced socialism, regulation, police state, and government "medical care", and will tell you how wonderful and free they are as they watch neighbors hauled off to jail for something they have said, all while telling you they have freedom of speech. It's quite honestly sad to watch as I have friends and family there who are completely enamored with their worship of the state.

glenko,
Where did you leave to if I may ask? I agree with your comments about Canada (as a Canadian still living here). I don't feel leaving is an option for me now but I realize the opportunities elsewhere.

@freeinthought, First I spent 10 years in the US (which 17 years ago seemed more free to me than Canada, but I had a lot to learn). Now I am living happily in Panama.

I had read about Panama being a great place despite all the smoke and mirrors portrayed in the media about Panama being an unsafe place.

Most of what you read is indeed smoke and mirrors. Yes Panama has a high murder rate, but it is for the most part gangs killing rival gangs, so if you stay out of that life it doesn't affect you. Many American's say they feel safer here than the did in the US.
Just like most areas and big cities, there are places you don't want to go. But they are easy to avoid. Somewhere earlier in this thread someone posted about searching for videos on Colon. Well, there is no reason to go to Colon. Just like in Canada or the US going to the ghettos is inviting trouble, so don't do it.
In all of my years here, I have never felt unsafe. You need situational awareness, and common sense though. Unlike in Canada where the nanny state takes care of you, here in Panama you are your own lifeguard, so you are more responsible for your own security.
Panama isn't all rosy like some promoters like to portray it either. But many of us here love it here. You have to find your own paradise, and know that every place has its blemishes.

"Never go full commie" haha
Great article, recently moved to Chile to get out of the soon-to-go-full-commie states.

As soon as I saw you were heading for the DR I suspected the great day had finally come. You should include the video you took of your joyous moment!

Congrats on your new status. Small government is the second best thing to non government. Keep telling them about the new blockchain paradigm and it may succeed in creating a small oasis of freedom and prosperity to inspire the socialist hellholes we have in the western world when they collapse

Canadians on some levels are the ultimate sheep. We think our government is harmless and protective when in fact it is far from it. We are just better at hiding it. We are involved in all the nasty shit that our big cousin to the south is, just not as out in the open. We bomb, we torture, we sell weapons to dictators, we steal, we lie and we suppress. Concealing the truth behind a harmless looking flag is what keeps Canada a beacon of hope for many parts of the world. I think it was designed this way so that when it comes time to merge Canada, the US and Mexico into the NAU, Canada will be chosen to lead because we are perceived by many to be the only sane country in north america.....maybe all of the Americas. Never forget, our government is a scam just like every other government. We are just better at hiding.

I appreciate your thoughts and one thing is clear that the realistic personal never compromise so you did well and wish you the best .This statement"The US government has become one of the most tyrannical and money-thirsty governments in the world. Every quarter, new records are broken of Americans renouncing their citizenship" is very true and my many friends live there have the same statement. you always wrote the truth may you live happy and healthy.

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Do you have any children? Because once you do, nations become extremely important. Kids tend to want to fit in, make friends, have a common culture. Moving around the world unsettles them. Even moving to another city within the country you are in, unsettles them.

The world is made up of nations because that suits family units best. Most of the folk who move country for tax reasons tend to be single guys with no ties. But then what happens when they finally start families?

@candy49, living in Panama I have met a ton of foreign children. Kids will be kids, and sure there are always exceptions, but most of the expat kids I have met here seem to be better adjusted, more open, and more outgoing than the kids who didn't "move around the world." They are also more mature, speak 2, 3, or more languages, and report to me that their friends back home (Canada or the US) are boring when they go back to visit.

Kids should not be a reason not to move. They should be one more reason to embrace the adventure. I believe moving abroad is one of the best things you could ever do for your kids.

When did I say I am "moving around the world"? My kids have mostly grown up in Anarchapulco. But, when we do travel, I've found, it is the BEST education. I'm quite sure my kids would be fine anywhere. As long as there is an MMA gym or a good internet connection, they'll be fine and probably starting businesses within weeks of being anywhere. Except the US, where everything is illegal.

Candy49 ... so all the kids in the race tie for first and they all get a ribbon? If you want to raise brain dead government trained kids by all means stay in Canada... Hopefully, they don't wake up and blame you that they are slaves/taxpayers ; that you had a chance to leave and didn't.

While I agree with you that the US and Canada have become such an intrusive government, taking hard earned money away, I don't agree that one shouldn't pay taxes. I'm constantly bewildered by "anarchist" and libertarians. Who's going to pay for that road you drive on? Unfortunately we live in a f'ed up world, and you'll need military. What about fire department? Police? Are you suggesting to privatize these things? So we have to pay to use the roads? Pay the fire department every time they come out? I think it's wrong to assume taxes are theft. HIGH taxes are theft, fair taxes aren't. If I were a citizen of DR, i would be pissed off to see you driving in the streets, you're simply taking advantage of a poor country.

Roads are paid from fuel taxes. Not income taxes. And besides, since we do not print our money, but instead borrow it from foreign banks, with compounded interest attached, our income tax pays for pretty much nothing except debt. All the money spend on the military etc. is borrowed. In reality, if we took back control over our central banks, the government could print the exact same money with no interest attached and spend it into existence. Problem solved.

Excellent article and not surprised to read most of the reasons why you wanted to leave Canada. It has been a subject that awakened many fervors in our home as I grew up. Thank you for sharing, safe journeying and namaste :)

Upvote for Harambe!

oops wrote wrong date on the sign! I never know what day it is :P

Calendars and clocks are for ...

Still not entirely sure why you joined DR. Mostly the tax rate it seems ¯_(ツ)_/¯

If you can get the right write-offs, the US tax system is actually fairly easy to get around. Personally, I'm not one of those as I work for a company and collect my post-tax earnings via a W-2, which makes that difficult, but based on what I've seen from others, it's fairly easy to pay almost nothing in taxes if done right.

But is that freedom though? Saving receipts on everything you do, and consume to break even on what you payed so far.

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I actually did a mission trip to the Dominican about 9 years ago. Some of the sweetest people live there (outside the glitz and glamour of the resorts). I was touched by the generosity I was shown. I saw extreme poverty.

People's "houses" held together with flip flops and scrap metal, but those same people were generous and willing to share what little they had. They taught me more than I expected. I went to help them, but they helped me realize that happiness is a mindset and not based at all on a dollar amount.

I would love to go back and visit someday.

Funny you should mention your love of hockey. My business is currently the only one allowed to legally print the image of Jack Eichel (Buffalo Sabres #1 Draft Pick)

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Also I made this artwork for you :)

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Figured instead of making you deadpool or brenda zambrano I could make something you could possibly use :)

Connor's better than Jeich :P But, that's cool! :)

Agreed! But I'm glad we have him. Buffalo sports in general has not seen a lot of success

Jeff - if you like it, UPVOTE da man!
:^)

I can't think of something sufficiently snarky to say, so I'll just forego the trolling this time and say "kudos to you for doing this." I really don't agree with a lot of your principles, but if you're going to have principles, you might as well act on them.

There will be a re-balancing of our world, no question about it, and position is so important. I am also planning to find a new home when I can, outside of the U.S.

With the power of the internet, money flows and it is borderless.

Come to Canada lol.

As a Canadian born son of a US draft dodger, currently living in the US and having traveled to the DR, your post resonates with me strongly!! In my travels to the DR I realized how much the impact of government or state intervention in regards to things like business regulations, affects people's abilities to provide some level of subsistence for themselves. I went from Santo Domingo to Play Rincon and literally only once got asked for money from a needy person. Everyone can find a way to make money and do so without violating some sort of regulation. In the countryside, whether it be guaguas, people selling liters of gasoline out of used plastic soda bottles on the side of the road or people selling carved coconuts to tourists, people with the will to work find a way to provide for themselves. Granted riding 20 people deep in a guagua is likely unsafe, its worth the gamble compared to a guaranteed wallet shakedown in a taxi.

Yes! It is the informality of business what sets DR apart.
I used to really dislike it because I thought it wasn't organized compared to what you'd see in movies. But then I got a chance to come to America and see how it's done...crap.
There are some things that can be good, but there's wayyyy too much regulation, I don't know how people live like that.

Congratulations on your liberation, now go celebrate the Dominican way and have a few Presidentes, a couple shots of Mamajuana and party until A Las Quince La Mañana.

I didn't realize you were a fellow canadian living abroad.

Power to you man, You seem to have a following and good head on your shoulders.

Did you just move??? Are you hiding? Just a question.

Didn't move, still live mostly in Mexico. Am I hiding? Does it look like I'm hiding? :P

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Come on! Does money and politics are your main reasons? There is a lot more behind this history... can't wait for chapter two!
-- develCuy

Maybe use those connections to influence a lowering of the residency time required for citizenship, or even just getting rid of it altogether :)

That is tough.. the US is putting MASSIVE pressure (and by pressure I mean threats) on other countries to make citizenship nearly difficult and to increase their tax rates... the US government is SO evil.

No argument on that one. However, surely you're aware that the pressure they can exert is going to take a sharp nosedive when the precious petro dollar starts swirling around the drain, as, again, I'm sure you're aware it's getting ready to do.

Yes, and I CANNOT wait!

Selfishly, I would like it to wait a little bit longer than I think it will, because I'm pretty much broke and trapped, and I need to try and get a stash of btc and maybe silver before it happens. don't think I'll be able to, though. Probably screwed, but maybe I'll manage to make it out the other side without being homeless :P

Awesome article. I'm in the US, but I guess i'm stuck here sinking with the ship for now. Hopefully they don't completely stop letting people leave the country.

That's what that wall is really for, I think...

Sadly, CA has gone full commie....Medical Police State. Great article!!!

if the ussa builds that big wall, all bets are off! Might be harder to leave the ussa eeeeeekkkkkkk

I am thrilled for you Jeff! It really does not matter what country it is as long as we can live somewhere that only taxes you on income earned within the country.

That habit of pushing up the years seems to happen all over this region. Right now I guess mine will occur sometime around 2018-2019. #HighFive

If you are going to be owned by someone, the next best thing to do is to choose the best owner!

I love it!

Good post! I plan on expatriating once my daughter turns 18, and thought first of Mexico. But since DR seems to not have as much gringo prejudice, it may be better? How much Spanish do you need to know?

There is no gringo prejudice in Mexico that I've seen. Of course, almost anywhere you go in the world now, if you say you are from the US, most people kinda cringe (thinking about the heinous acts of the US government worldwide), but if you explain you left because of it, you'll be welcomed in Mexico, DR or most anywhere really.

Cool. I have heard there is a two tier pricing system in the markets though, but I have also never lived there either. Love the articles btw, Jeff. Big fan.

Oh, well, that is different. And, yes, if you are in the main tourist areas you will definitely be charged more for things like taxis... but it is really like $0.50 or $1 more (ie. nothing to lose sleep over)... and if you actually live there you get to know the people and then you get the local rate.

Understood. My daughter and I signed up for online Skype Spanish lessons. By the time I am ready to move, language shouldn't be an issue.

Good question I'd like to know too :)

You don't need to know a lot of Spanish at all. And even if you know Spanish you probably won't get to use it because Dominicans have chopped it up, it's sort of a dialect of Spanish. If you want to speak like the locals you need to learn it from scratch. But DR is culturally geared towards tourism, you shouldn't have a problem communicating, regardless of where you are from. I have heard of people having issues in some parts of Mexico because they are foreigner. What you may have issues with in DR as a foreigner is with people wanting to over charge you for stuff because they think you can afford it, specially if you are Caucasian.

You insulted my sense of being a 'proud Canadian', you snuck in yet another affiliate link into your post. I still don't agree with half the shit you say but this post earned my first genuine upvote for TVD.

Good post.

Were you born in Canada? Then you shouldn't be proud. Unless you are regularly proud of things you have nothing to do with. If you moved there because you actually thought it was the best place for you to go, then you could be a little proud, because at least you did something. But thanks for the upvote!

Exactly @dollarvigilante. I can't count the number of arguments I have gotten into about the phrase "proud Canadian". Fine, be a happy Canadian. Even say Canada is the best country on earth if you want (that's your opinion). But what do you have to be proud of? I guess your parents might be proud of the fact they timed your birth to happen in Canada, but you don't have anything to be proud of.

Pride is rather encompassing term.

"With a positive connotation, pride refers to a humble and content sense of attachment toward one's own or another's choices and actions, or toward a whole group of people, and is a product of praise, independent self-reflection, and a fulfilled feeling of belonging."

Actions is the key word. ;)

Awesome story - I have never really left the country and am fascinated about the idea of exploring the world. Our culture just paints it out to be so dangerous that I never really even considered leaving until very recently.

I would have assumed it was the constant fear of moose attacks and the declining quality of your maple syrup...

I was almost killed by a moose once... ran right in front of my car during a snowstorm on icy roads... those things are not animals, they are dinosaurs! You don't realize how massive they are until you are in an SUV and the only thing you can see is its legs and its balls bouncing around in front of you.

Well, thanks. I'm just off to bed and didn't need that image.

I wake up to find this article has two red flags. Now I'm just guessing, but I think the reason's moose nuts.

This was the funniest part for me:

"Apparently, they are open to ideas on how to improve life in the DR (that's pretty rare for government people) and are open to these ideas of free markets. I am looking forward to my conversation with them on getting rid of their central bank and instituting bitcoin and Steem as their national currency."

For real? I lived there for more than 30 years, worked for the Government and there is 90% chance that those people don't really want to help anyone, or they want to help only if there is a good amount of money for them to take.

And you have connections to the top people in government... let me guess, these people are great people that want to help everyone too right? Don't think so.

Medical care in Canada almost killed your mom? That's unfortunate. In DR EVERY day people die for the lack of medical care and infrastructure to begin with... I've witnessed myself people dying being rejected at the door of clinics and hospitals because they didn't have money, or insurance, or they were simply "too sick and hopeless" to be accepted, the owners of the institutions don't want their records to be stained by more people dying, who pay less cause die fast.

Sure, if you have lots of money, because of the corruption in DR (who affects mostly the poor and not the rich), then you can live as a king... of course, abusing other people and buying your way through all the mess. It's a completely different story for the majority of the country, who don't have even their basic needs covered.

DR might not be directly involved in terrorism and bombing countries, but for such a small country, the amount of abuse, stealing and just plain fuckery that's being played day by day against the population is too much.

Great post, as always.
Love your posts and totally agree with your statements. Governments only do what politicians do:
1.) Lie
2.) Lie more
3.) Steal
4.) Get reelected
5.) Lie in the process of reelection
6.) Raise and constantly develop new taxes
7.) Murder citizens of disagreeing countries
8.) Print money to force their citizens into hidden FIAT-slavery
9.) Secure borders to keep everyone "inside"
10.) Reduce education to a minimum. Dumb people don't ask questions!
...and this lists goes on and on and on...

Try to open a business bank account in my country (Denmark). It has become nearly impossible. Even a Paypal merchant account is a nightmare to get and when you do, they keep your money ;-)
Crypto is the solution and Steem is a nice first step to regain true freedom.

How's the weather? :)

Tropical storm today... but I love tropical storms :)

what!! why would you leave Canada!!! we have timmies!! that alone is worth living here ..LOL :)

Maybe I'll open a franchise in the DR ;)

Call it Dimmies and keep the franchise fee. :D

LOL!

@thedollarvigilante hahahah. then as a latino born in Canada but has lived abroad and travelled to DR, let me know and I'm on the first plane over! :)

You mean Tim Hortons? - I used to love their version of a frappacino when I was over there.

yes!! Times is our nickname for it in Canada, my favourite coffee in the world lol @thecryptofiend

Let's be honest, Timmie's is for cream and sugar lovers, not coffee lovers lovers 😃

gasps take it back!! Thats sacrilege...lol 😁😁

As a fellow Cannuck, I understand and respect your reasoning. But I'd rather not flee the land I was born in and the land I love because some power-mad thugs say that they rule me. At least not yet. Maybe I'll change my mind if things get worse.

I'm glad you've found a good home in the Dominican Republic.

Everyone has their breaking point. I respect your decision to stay as you respect my decision to leave.

Thank you for sharing this material, I like what you posted.

What about being stateless and be a perpetual traveler? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_traveler

It is better to be a resident somewhere before becomeing stateless. Glen L. Roberts is living stateless as a legal resident in Paraguay.

That's what I am and do. But PT doesn't mean stateless. It means having residencies and citizenships in different countries.

I always thought you lived in mexico,

I do. It's the Perpetual Traveler/Prior Taxpayer (PT) lifestyle... be citizen of one country, resident of another and live in a place as a tourist. ;)

What was the residency requirement for DR? Besides years - what type of on island living was required? Did you meet David Ortiz before he became an American? :)

Hardly any. Ortiz became an American slave? LOL, that must have cost him tens of millions.

I am looking forward to my conversation with them on getting rid of their central bank and instituting bitcoin and Steem as their national currency

I don't think Steem is anywhere stable and well proven enough to be a national currency. Bitcoin on the other hand would be more credible. Calling that a "national currency" would be a paradox though. You'd get 80% of the benefit, and 20% of the hassle by simply having them accept Bitcoin as legal tender, alongside whatever they currently accept as legal tender. Much less disruptive. Much less work for them. And much less risk and responsibility if things don't work as well as planned. And it's also more ancap in spirit to compete with incumbant currencies (and crush them, no doubt about that) than trying to get a state-sponsored monopoly.

FELICIDADES y bienvenido paisano! Nuestro país se enaltece de que personas como tú formen parte de nosotros .
Me encantó tu artículo , muy informativo especialmente para aquellos que no conocen mi país (nuestro país ) . Cuentas con mi apoyo para lograr una República más próspera! Viva la RD 👏🏼🇩🇴

Massive congrats to you @dollarvigilante! I used to live in the UK, shocking for taxes, and Australia, also shocking for taxes now. Just over 6 years ago I made the move to Japan and can highly recommend it, an excellent place for very similar reasons to the DR, lack of involvement in terror etc, taxes are "reasonable" yet levels of service and cleanliness are outstanding, and the public transport here is potentially the best in the world. It is an awesome country and I an proud to be able to live and work here! :D

hey @dollarvigilante - so how does this work logistically w/ your wife and children? When you say 'you', are you including them as well in terms of getting your citizenship, or? If not - how do the logistics of living work? I mean, I'm assuming they're limited in to how long they can stay w/ you? etc....

"At the end of it, some Americans are likely being taxed at a true rate of upwards of 70%. 100% is communism... so, the US is now 70% communist. Nearly full commie. Never go full commie!"
XD - I love it!

Be nice to the locals! :)

Thank you for this storry

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I would love to do the same... but i'm too young. Although my father would love too.

38% on shelter costs in Canada... clearly the idiot who wrote that didn't look at the cost of hydro in Ontario. That would move shelter costs higher than taxes.

Cheers from Toronto! "if you're going to have an owner, makes sense to choose one yourself".... words of wisdom!

Hope to meet you down there and CONGRATULATIONS

Now you are a citizen will you relocate or are you happy where you are now?

felicidades, amigo!

Wow, this has a huge experience for you, it seems... As you know, I was born in Venezuela... all I've ever seen is my country's disaster... And me and my girlfriend were thinking about moving to Canada. We didn't know that king of limitations, but no matter where we Venezuelan move (except for Cuba), it would be a better place... About DR's culture, well... I know they're better than other countries because they, as us, have always been halfblood citizens, so racial discrimination doesn't exists there... Dominican women are called the hottest and that culture is very happy. I'd like to know more about them. Great choice @dollarvigilante

By the way, it's good to know those things from a citizen. Every publicity we see through the internet talks from Canada as the very heaven

singapore tax may not be high since they need population but the country itself is pretty expensive dont u think ?

Very cool, I would like to get more involved in blockchain and crypto but making the jump isn't always easy to do.

Congratulations !
People may not agree with you, but you stick to your positions and follow your beliefs.
It's funny to see that, for Frenchies, Canada is a tax-heaven ! We are probably taxed way more than 50% because of cumulative systems. It is confiscatory, and destroys the economy of the country.
Anyway... $450,000 more Steem Dollars and you may immigrate to Monaco !

Congrats again. Consistent move. Chapeau!
(Easy on the "Brugal 151". This rum is sick.)

Now you need to find a local hockey team...

Woohoo!! My birth country is awesome!! Also, it was the ONLY country to accept Jews when they were fleeing Europe/Germany after Hitler rose to power. But, I don't want to brag .... blows on nails

Hola, Jeff. Muy interesantes tu razones. Veo que tu entrada es de hace 9 meses. Me gustaria saber como van las cosas, si algo ha cambiado y si sigues en RD. Saludos.

If Canada was so bad then why are emigrants all over the world craving asylum there and Canadian citizenship more than a stay in the U.S.A.?

I am sure you all know about Liberland. So many anarchists around the world but almost none joins. Most anarchists are couch rebels. Too much talking, little doing..

Congratutions! This inspires me to start looking for somewhere where I can eventually carry the same passports as my family. Looking for a new owner? Hmm: the reality of that is actually quite difficult to acknowledge.

Congrats to your citizenship, Jeff. Although I don't think there is a place to hide from global socialists in long-term, in short-term you can move here and there and do your best. As a Christian I accept gain taxation up to 10% as fair . Everything else I consider as thievery and proof of inefficient management. Sadly, there is currently no country with that (or even close) level of taxation for people without major amount of own capital.

And yet nothing on my post. Good for you dude.

By the way, if you would have to make most of your money in that blessed country, the outlook for you would be quite different.

That's a pretty damn good reason Jeff and congratulations. How different things could be in countries if we had successful retired business people with no obligations making financial decisions instead of what exists now.

All the best! :D

Jeff, thanks for the insight. I don't agree as yet that tax is theft. I have visited Canada regularly since 1998 as part of my job but I prefer to live and work in Germany.

intriging !

Pretty impressive story. I hope you'll do greater good later on.

you complicate things a lot. Get a resident permit in another country, declare that you are paying taxes on that country and at voila, no need for a new citizenship. I know that because most italians are living in Albania to avoid the high taxes of their own country and they are outsourcing their business around here.

Hey Jeff! I am going to Dominican republic in two weeks! any tips? :))

I'm all for not having a central bank.

I also know I'm not preaching to the quire here. But instituting bitcoin or some other currency as official DR currency is a bit out of line.

If you are a believer of the free market, wouldn't you support the idea of freedom of money? Wouldn't it be better for the free market to choose a currency/money that people prefer to use?

Perhaps the DR could accept various most popular methods of payment for taxes/fees etc until a clear winner or two emerges.

"The US government is putting pressure on us and most other countries to make it harder to become a citizen."

Dang. I had never considered that aspect of the human farming system.

Never go full commie!

Indeed.

As well, the DR is not involved in terrorist activity, like Canada and the US. The DR has not been bombing men, women and children in Libya nor Syria... it's just nice not to be in any way involved with those acts of murder.

This, to me, is one of the primary reasons I've actually thought about living somewhere else. I've discussed it now and again with my wife and was even interested in Gult's Gultch (sad to even thing about that whole mess). One valid concern I've heard regarding the "I'm going to move because of the immoral U.S. foreign policy" is the result of now being a potential target of the immoral U.S. foreign policy. :(

Congratulations @dollarvigilante! I was born in Cuba so sorry but my journey has been worse than yours xD.

Great article. More and more Americans are sharing many of the same beliefs!

Word! Im Dominican!!! I love D.R. I am planning my retirement there. I was born in NYC but my family is from there and I have been traveling to and from my whole life... Love the Caribbean!!!

Jeff... You inspire us! You always find ways around communist rules & regulations. Way to go man!

This is very interesting. I am going to look further into this myself. I also believe in investing in PHYSICAL gold and silver as wealth protection in case of an economic collapse.

We should all run of to the edge of the world . Situation as it is now in the world don't look promising to any normal human being . We are slaves of the goverments that we chose to lead us . It's time to wake up

Soy Dominicano Tambien

It's nice to see someone who realizes taxation causes genocide and many other horrors. Being a native from Canada I am non taxable if I stay on native concentration camps ( Indian Reserve ). For hundreds of years we were not allowed to have money or property. So leaving has never been an option for us.

What i thought about cananda when i was kid.

That is pretty much what it's like. :P

Fellow Canadian here. Can Confirm!

Interesting post. I'm surprised you've not mentioned Monero (XMR) as an instrument of financial liberty. It's much more private than any other cryptocurrency, which makes it fungible. I suggest you look into it.

It's funny. Many friends are thinking to have Canadian nationality. They might need another view...

I live in the US. In 2015 it's said that most Americans will have to work from Jan 1. to mid April with all proceeds going to taxes. a whopping 43 days will be spent just paying federal and state income tax. Payroll taxes will take 26 days to pay, followed by sales and excise taxes (15 days), corporate income taxes (12 days), and property taxes (11 days). The remaining 7 days are spent paying estate and inheritance taxes, customs duties, and other taxes. All this tax and we still don't balance our budget. Loved the post!

Congratulations on your DR citizenship and looking forward to your great experiences .

Ha! Fantastic man. You are full of surprises and more well traveled than any human I know. Congrats on having new and better owners. Good move. Peace.

Hockey is a brutal sport, I played for a while. So steem as the national currency for DR wow!

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@dollarvigilante It's getting really crazy in Canada now. In Ontario, the hydro is a huge (IMO a purposely orchestrated) fiasco and there is no in end in site for our electricity rates to ever stop climbing.

Another thing I've noticed in Canada, is that even if you live in a very small town, they're building new fancy schools, libraries, police stations, etc. and the reasons are not because of an expansion that's needed... they just need new looking buildings essentially. This makes the property taxes high almost anywhere near where jobs are available.

Cops now make over $100,000 a year. Prison wardens, AKA teachers, are way over paid as well, and they're always on strike. Canada Post is a complete joke, it doesn't end.

The municipal governments must be drowning in debt. Canada is headed in a very bad direction. And it makes the developing countries look like potential beacons of hope!

Congratulations on finding a better slavemaster. :)

Hi Dollarvigilante
I am a South African and love my country very much. Even in the middle of winter we hardly see below zero temperatures, and have the best nature reserves and coastal towns.

The government is however also messing things up here. It seems that the tax structure is similar to the Canadian system, but we don't get proper roads, no proper medical state owned medical facilities. If you want proper medical treatment, you need a very expensive medical aid and go to privately owned hospitals to receive proper treatment. On top of this the tot people in government spend money on themselves. (Go google Jacob Zuma and Nkandla). As you said tax is theft. (I could possibly live with some form off reasonable tax, if it was used properly, I know you won't agree with this)

I'm half Dominican and while I'm not against government in the same way you are the government, while saving my life, had also been a major, and I mean MAJOR pain in my ass. I can't leave the country. The Dominican consulate here in NYC is a friggin' headache as well.

I am entitled to become a citizen of the DR by virtue of my mother. Thanks for reminding me I need to get on this soon.

Great post.

I think this perspective is great. With one caveat. Eventually, the US empire will crumble and with nearly 320 million, some should stay and cultivate freedom in the heart of the beast. Many thanks on your articles, I looked forward to seeing more.

I was born in DR and in many ways I can see why it would be attractive to freedom seekers, however things are quickly changing over there. The American government along with other governments and interests are trying to recreate their systems out there by buying off the politicians. They have installed cameras everywhere and are now releasing videos to scare off the people into letting them militarize the police, among other things like introducing identity politics.

Let's hang out sometime when I go back to Santo Domingo. Would love to meet a fellow Steemer :)

Very well written.

DollarVigilante: I have read your post and about the taxing in the Dominican Republic, don't they have a VAT? I am from and live in Honduras and we have a 15% tax on almost everything. I know The Dominican Republic is a nice place, Honduras is great in natural beauty, but it is rife with corruption and their is a lot of crime, many people from the US, Canada and Europe do come to live here though, but I don't know if most of them opt for citizenship.

Americans have been dumbed down to the point that if Sharia Law was implemented in this Country, they would not notice the difference!