No medicine based on solid evidence?

in money •  7 years ago 

In the prestigious BMJ magazine, the results of a scientific study have been published, which proved that doctors and pharmacists for decades, practically from the mass use of antibiotics, wrongly command that the entire amount of prescribed antibiotics should be consumed. It turned out that it is not true that antibiotics work the same way, even if we stop using them sooner when we feel better, and that a smaller amount of antibiotics consumed does not cause bacterial resistance


But the main hero of the story of the consumption of antibiotics is not antibiotics, but pharmaceutical evidence or ....truth.

It turned out that there was no solid evidence that the best antibiotics were to be used up to the end. It's probably made up by pharmaceutical marketers, and doctors know what pharmacists tell them. Doctors in clinics did not know, they believed pharmacists. There is nothing wrong with this, otherwise it probably can not be, but we need to know, based on what and what information doctors prescribed by us antibiotics: they believed their manufacturers.

They also believe that other medicines are proven to be effective and safe, that the dosages prescribed by manufacturers are to be taken, that vaccines create immunity and collective protection and do not cause serious illnesses ... The research is evidence that medical truths have a very short period of use and only lasts until the product's profitability or recent research. The doctors always accept new truths as if they were eternal, and they advocate with the same enthusiasm as those of the previous one.

The pharmaceutical industry argues that pharmaceutical medicine is based on material evidence (which is why it is supposed to be all other charlatanism), and with this argument it created a monopoly over health money, a professional and general school system, state authorities that should take care of the health of citizens , the way of treatment, our health and the health of future generations, over conceiving, abortion, birth, dying ... But every once in a while it turns out that they have not had and do not have good evidence for their activities.

Doctors demand that we trust them because they have good evidence, but it turns out that there is no such evidence and that modern medicine is based not on evidence, but on the faith in the pharmaceutical industry. The problem is that people are not told that these are the current truths of those who have power, but it acts as if they are natural laws, for something beyond doubt, ultimate, absolutely real. It creates the illusion of all-powerful medicine that works miracles. On the illusion of effective evidence-based medicine, laws on compulsory vaccination, on the use of cannabis, on the alternative, on our health are adopted.

It seems that there is no medicine based on solid evidence. It does not exist. Where there is no evidence, it is the area of ​​faith and hope. Medicine is a new religion, a faith in medical-pharmacy priests who have the only god - a profit. I admire and respect the doctors who are dedicated to the patient who is honest and honest with him, who freely search for him and with him the best solutions whose strength and reputation comes from their actions and do not set their reputation for the particular pharmaceutical truths. Such doctors find it difficult to work in the current healthcare system. That's why they deserve public support. They need it. And we need them.

This study is another proof that uncritical confidence in doctors who uncritically trust pharmacy can be harmful to health.

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Absolutely true. They have no fucking clue and will tell you anything to remain their servant.

Don't use drugs.

This year I started to plant wild opium lettuce. I know for few that have migraine every few weeks, and this plant should work for them

In my opinion, most of the illness is psychological and when we start to interfere with chemical processes in our bodies we do more harm than help. By drugs, I was meant pharmaceutical drugs.

True. Most people do not even think about that, but today, stress is one of the main reasons for many illnesses. Even kids are under stress every day, because parents are too strict (protective) about what kid can and can not do.

There is an old saying ....for every disease, there is a plant that cures it. I just borrowed a book from my friend and it's mind-blowing. It is written by Maurice Messegue , Narava ima vselej prav. In English that would be something like...The nature is always right. You can check it out if you like.

Taking antibiotics until the end of the course doesn't usually do much harm. I can imagine that if people stop taking antibiotic when they feel a bit better, they could become ill again.

If society addressed its many problems, we wouldn't have the need for so much medicine.

Antibiotics have their side effects. https://www.drugs.com/article/antibiotic-sideeffects-allergies-reactions.html This article is meant for people who take them very often, and usually for small diseases where antibiotics are not even an obligation to get rid of. Well, as you say, society became impatient and most people want to solve their problems now. Big reason is the way of life, what you eat, drink, your exercise, stress... For example, some people take pills because they can not get a good sleep, but they don't know that tea, made from linden tree leafs makes you extremely sleepy

I just upvoted u...kindly do the same

You really shouldn't ask for upvotes that way.

Ask the people who die for not taking medicines! Steve Jobs?

My friend's father died because of the medicines. I remember that few years before that he got kidney stones because of that. In the end he just lost his mind. Not saying, medicines don't work, but lot of those have too big side effects

Agreed. The coin always have two sides and sometimes these people create the disease and the cure!

I am a doctor soon, i am sad to announce, that this pseudo-science fake news is absolutely bullshit and dangerous.

Behind every antibiotic stands at least a decade of studies, which also analyze the risks of NOT taking the right amount. If you knew something about microbiology and the effects of multirestitent bacteria (like MRSA) on the human body you would feel ashamed posting this.

Multiresistent bacteria are one of the biggest problems in any hospital. They can result from applying the WRONG antibiotic, but if you stop taking any given antibiotic (wrong or right one) before the recommended time, you will get even more and dangerous bacteria. Make a research on that, use Pubmed for example.

Doctors dont trust pharmacy uncritically. We spent years learning the pros and cons of every single drug there is. We also learn how dangerous it its what you suggest.

I know quite a bit about microbiology, biochemistry, and biophysics, and I can tell you that the pharmaceutical route is an unhelpful one to take.

You are running around flagging things which you do not even understand, and don't seem to be interested in learning, as much as, flagging things that don't agree with your indoctrination. Wise up, before you get someone killed.

In your very first sentence, you immediately use genetic fallacy, appeal to emotion, a triple ad hominem, and another appeal to emotion. You then go on to appeal to shame. Did they not teach you logic at university? is 'bullshit' a technical scientific term? Why don't you go do something productive, rather than using logical fallacies to demean people who obviously have a better grasp of the information than yourself?

Facts: read my comment above. Its facts.

I am not "indoctrinated" i went to medschool. Not to clown college.

My intention is to save people from dangerous medical fake news.
I have read so much incorrect information on steemit regarding important medical topics, that i use my education as a professional to prevent people from hurting themselves and others by following wrong and dangerous information.

The only question for me is how far these fake news will dare to go: "people, jump off houses, its safe, their is no gravity on earth!"

Unsubstantiated claim, appeal to ridicule, appeal to emotion, ad hominem, another unsubstantiated claim, You said yourself that you are not a professional yet, appeal from authority, another appeal to emotion, ad hominem, and finally a spectacular strawman. Every single statement you've made is a logical fallacy. If your aim is to help, then you might want to start by helping yourself.

Please learn the Trivium, the form not manipulated for authoritarian and theistic control, and Quadrivium. This will save you much time and effort, and may even help you find the truth.

q.e.d.

jesus, take your meds! regain control of your life

Another ad hominem. This is getting tedious.

Do you have any real arguments?

I am in full control of my life, part of which is not allowing myself to be fooled by obvious flaws in logic.

You might be surprised how much increase in self determination can be had using the basic tools of intellectual self defense.

Even I personally know for a doctor. So I can tell you that antibiotics lead to drug-resistant bacteria, that makes people sick. Overuse can even be deadly. MRSA bacteria are not easily spread by means of handling or eating foods containing MRSA. Antibiotics do not kill bacteria. It just stops their growth

Oh my fucking god, people, if you follow this guy for "reasonable information", read this:

  • So you "know a doctor" huh? Of course that makes YOU an expert. I AM a doctor.
  • "So you can tell me that antibiotics lead to drug-resistant bacteria": Thats what i just said, especially if humanity would follow YOUR suggestion to not take them long enough!
  • "Overuse can even be deadly": You can die of drinking to much WATER, i know ZERO cases of death by overusage of antibiotics!
  • "MRSA bacteria are not easily spread": Maybe that is why patients with MRSA are ISOLATED, you are only allowed to enter their rooms with protective clothing, gloves and masks
  • "Antibiotics do not kill bacteria": There are 2 types of antibiotics: bacteriostatic ones stop growth, AND BACTERICIDAL ONES KILL THEM

Stop spreading FAKE NEWS

We are not on the same page. Listen, healthy people are exposed to very low risk of MRSA infection. As long as we are healthy, we can stay in the same room as the MRSA carrier. Regular contacts, such as touching and ripping, do not pose a threat to healthy family members. In any case, the instructions on the disinfection of deadlines should be followed. I was once with that kind of person in a room. Not isolated, no need of protective clothing, gloves or masks...and I am still alive today.
Maybe you have different system in your country but here it has gone too far with antibiotics. Doctors are prescribing acne antibiotics for kids, antibiotics for a flu... So here are pretty overused. Weren't in a past.

And just for you I called that doctor and asked him about treatments with antibiotics. And he says that ...like a pneumonia, urinary tract infection and such he usually continues the antibiotics for another 2 days after the body temperature has normalized, although some are saying that 5 days - others would say 3 days - would kill off all disease causing bacteria so the antibiotics could stopped after that, although the body still needs more time to heal.

Not two weeks. Like most doctors would say. That was my point.

you are right, i am definitly not on your page as you spreaded wrong information. i have no idea what your intentions are, dont take it personal.
its just the wrong informations that i set straight.

Very Effectively created post. I UpVote.