So far I can only say that Infinity War and Endgame was not only the best end for the characters who find their end here, but also the most visually and content-wise satisfying film cycle of the entire MCU. The stories of the characters were continued completely logically and partly opened and sent on their ways.
I was a little astonished that Captain Marvel had so unbelievably little screentime and that the film would have done almost completely without her, but what should you do in a three hour film with so many characters? A lot of scenes went by very fast, where I might have wished for a little more explanation or more structure, e.g. like Tony decoded time travel as well or how Hulk and Banner found their agreement. Sure, I have stamped this as a logical consequence and fan service, but one explanation or the other extra scene would have done the film something good.
The film could have gone for another three hours with all the side issues and you would still have had gaps, but it's also a comic film, you shouldn't forget that. Much of what happens doesn't correspond to the classic rules of film making like show, don't tell. Many things are framed and derived like comic panels. For example, that we don't even see old man Cap Steve Rogers running into the picture at the end, but just sitting there.
That confuses you at first but on closer inspection it doesn't really matter how he got there. He just is there. In a comic you also have one standing picture per panel which often gives a lot of information about the events and that's exactly what this movie masters in a sensational way.
Yes, the film is an uncanny fan service, but that's good, because that's what a comic book film is for. This film doesn't work alone and can't do it either, because it's created to summarize the entire MCU, the 21 films so far. The film has some places where it misappropriates important elements and for some characters draws strange twists that weren't necessarily obvious before.
The film doesn't only try to end something, but also to send other characters into development. After this film many questions remain unanswered, maybe even more than are answered. Is that bad? No! Because as Kevin Feige already said, as long as there are years that pass, so long there will be Marvel movies. And this statement is for fans as for me simply only a confirmation that the MCU was not a flash in the pan, so it didn't end here, the story about the Avengers doesn't stop here, it will get bigger and it will get more, like in the comics.
Man you sure covered end game to the nth degree. Good read btw.
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i have only addressed everything roughly, if i would go even more into detail, i could write a book about it. Tomorrow i will begin to explain the Time Travel case, with a few more articles and after that i will close up Endgame. :)))
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Like the movie. It sound down right epic.
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They're killed Iron-Man 😳
I can't believe they do this😔
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Honestly, I don't think that poor storytelling should be accepted or pardoned just because the source material comes from a different medium.
Solid storytelling doesn't need this kind of justification. Calling it an uncanny fanservice and then redirecting people to the comic book (which I have read) isn't a good thing. Most people won't buy the comic book, most people don't really care about the comic book.
A lot of the big cosmic entities are blatantly absent from the film. Where's Infinity, Love & Hate, Lord Order & Master Chaos. What Thanos did in the comic has nothing to do with the comic, nor history wise, neither symbolic wise. So basically you end up with a FILM where your could pretty much have thrown any unknown characters with the same abilities/powers and obtain the same result.
MCU isn't doing any justice to the comics. It's a completely different history, with a different take (much tamer than the one in the comics - remember what triggered the Civil War on the comics? civilians, kids getting killed by unchecked heroes actions, not a petty squabble with the UN), and honestly it looks like just a shameless cashgrab based on existing and loved IPs
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Welcome to Steemit @mrnoone, nice to see you here!
You're right, but that's the point. Most people haven't read the comics at all and don't know the stories at all, i.e. you have to lead the non-hardcore fans who don't know the comics to the heroes and their stories first. Because you can't flood the normal audience with informations. That's why a middle way is very important.
For example and how you mentioned it, Thanos is defeated quite differently in the comics than in the movie. In the comics there are also many other heroes involved than in the movie. The intention of Thanos to wipe out half the universe is also very different in the comics than in the movie.
You have the same thing with the story of the Guardians of the Galaxy. In the comics the different characters come and go, but you can't really make that happen in the movies without confusing the audience too much.
I think with the Infinity Saga (the movies) Marvel has taken a good way to expand the universe further, in which the powerful cosmic characters could also appear. If they had been introduced at the beginning, the viewers would have had too much trouble getting along with them.
I think that Kevin Feige did a good job here by trying to find a good middle way. Of course there are a lot of aspects missing from the comics, but we hardcore fans have to live with that.
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For me that's kind of the point too. You can't bring a known IP to newcomers and expect them to catch everything left and right with prior knowledge. But this is exactly what creates subpar movies that are ok-ish, because hey, we can't just drop you all this knowledge out of no where. The elements that made ascend the original story? Well, drop those, no one other than the hardcore fans will know what we're talking about and everyone else's too "limited" (to not say dumb) to get it on the go.
Case in point, The Simpsons Movie: A lot of minor details and plots where dropped because newer fans "wouldn't get it" (like Milhouse having a crush on Lisa, a scene that was plain dropped). Why does this matter. In the end the Simpsons Movie became a one time thing, everybody talked about spider pig for six months and no one has talk about it anymore.
Why make a movie that's gonna mutilate and change source material for the sake of being accessible. What about the fans that had kept the franchise alive before MCU? Also, poor planning? Why didn't they explore more the cosmic entities on the Thor and Dr Strange movies. At least give a better hint than there's stuff that goes far beyond superheroes and entities that make them look like the average joe looks to them: completely powerless and helpless. That add dimensions. If Marvel's plan all along was to tie everything during EndGame, I'm pretty dam sure they could had build a better universe and perhaps even replace Fox owned characters for others. Or even create specific characters for this adaptation and bring them as newcomers to the Marvel Multiverse - like the Walking Dead did with Daryl, he was made for the series and was so popular that made it to the comics. How about a newer set of superheroes instead of twisting and bending the ones already exists just to "make it accessible for everyone". If this sounds elitist then I say they just went for the cashgrab, and that fine, but let's see how the adaptation stands against the source material. Because it's not like the battles against the comics entities were pages long. Proper presentation of the elements is part of good storytelling, picking which elements to carry is part of making a good adaptation. At this point they might as well call it "Thanos and New Sad4254 Earth wars".
In the end, I guess what I really expect is more quality and a better effort from these multimillion dollar transnational corps is a bit more of an effort on these type of works.
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That's way too much material Marvel's offering with the comics. To realize all that you would need a lot more movies and more series and all that would have to be connected.
But with Disney+ they now want to create series that officially belong to the MCU and are part of it, not before it was the case with the Netflix series where they are more or less stand alone worlds without real connections to the MCU.
And with the buying up of Fox many licenses are back at Marvel, like Deadpool or the X-Men. I think there will be a lot more to come.
But honestly, it is too much stuff...
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How about @oendertuerk, if there are too many questions but thanks to your analysis I have been able to appreciate it from another perspective...
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Emeğinize sağlık
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tskler kardesim :)
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