RE: Is it truly "progressive" when the negative things are simply pushed into ghettos and ignored while virtue signalling about other things?

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Is it truly "progressive" when the negative things are simply pushed into ghettos and ignored while virtue signalling about other things?

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And the US gov gives out free stuff by the billions, look at Israel, while your veterans kill themselves on the streets in complete abandonment. The massive subsides to US agriculture, isn't that the government giving you "free things"?

None of that is free. We pay for it. The government can't give anything for FREE. They just are good at spending other people's money or putting those people into debt, or both.

yet your bankers, (I don't believe they are "socialists") are doing as fine as always.

Central banks dominate the world. They don't care whether you are capitalist, socialist, communist, or fill in the blank. As long as they control the monetary system.

Thinking about it... the US is socialist, just not about human beings, only huge corporations.

The U.S. is a hybrid monster. It is a lot of different things. Though it does have an increasing amount of socialism. It also has a lot of people that don't even know their own history. I mean how many of them bother to ask if there was no IRS and no such thing as income taxes then "how did the government pay for things for the first 120+ years" as now people don't think it is possible to govern without income tax. They can't even imagine it.

I don't advocate the spending of huge sums on military either. Yet that was not the scope of what I wrote about, therefore you can't really know what I chose or did not choose.

I'll tell you that socialism likes to pretend it is "compassionate" and it is the bastion of the virtue signalling. Yet there is nothing compassionate about spending someone elses money. True compassion comes from reaching into your own pocket and choosing to help someone yourself. There is not a single ounce of compassion in authorizing people to steal from other people no matter what fancy mental clothing one tries to dress it up in.

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None of that is free. We pay for it. The government can't give anything for FREE. They just are good at spending other people's money or putting those people into debt, or both.

It's free for them. It's like you are trying to establish the principle that wealth must come from somewhere, somebody has to produce it, of course. But that's not the point and sorry but I don't consider your attempts to avoid the subject as smart or astute enough. Let's just keep talking about those mean "trespassers", that problem is a priority. The US spending billions in destroying other societies can wait, after all, "trespassers" are taking a dump on the street somewhere near you.

"Trespassers"? do you urinate around the perimeter of your home? You sound extremely territorial. At some point, some people designed some maps and borders, most of the times after wars, by force. Since it's convenient for us right now let's respect them, perhaps tomorrow the Empire (very important word) will need to "trespass" one more time, but that's fine.

Central banks dominate the world. They don't care whether you are capitalist, socialist, communist, or fill in the blank. As long as they control the monetary system.

Again you completely evaded the central point(sorry, I'm being arrogant by assuming you "evaded" it, perhaps you just missed it). I'll say it clearly: The West is not dominated by socialism, explaining the state of our world today taking into consideration socialism as a major force is just dishonest and wilfully blind. That's my opinion.

The U.S. is a hybrid monster. It is a lot of different things. Though it does have an increasing amount of socialism.

I fail to see the socialism, do you mean in discourse? There is, as you say, a lot of talk about it, but discourse isn't exactly what matters.

I'll tell you that socialism likes to pretend it is "compassionate" and it is the bastion of the virtue signalling.

Socialism is whatever the people executing the policies makes it. Most of the time it fails miserably for a lot of very different reasons.

Yet there is nothing compassionate about spending someone elses money. True compassion comes from reaching into your own pocket and choosing to help someone yourself. There is not a single ounce of compassion in authorizing people to steal from other people no matter what fancy mental clothing one tries to dress it up in.

I disagree. Property involves power and force, in my opinion. With military power, you just take whatever you want and then you completely and legally own it because you make the laws. What makes us so different from those who were born in absolute poverty? why cling like that to "our" things as we somehow deserve it, are we that special and different from those "trespassers"? A lack of empathy explains this, in my opinion. An incapacity to see yourself reflected on those you don't identify yourself with due to color, culture, beliefs, etc. They are the "other", let's blame them for everything. (I'm not saying this is your perspective, as you said, I don't know you).

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