RE: Is it truly "progressive" when the negative things are simply pushed into ghettos and ignored while virtue signalling about other things?

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Is it truly "progressive" when the negative things are simply pushed into ghettos and ignored while virtue signalling about other things?

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Was the Shah of Iran socialist? he headed a fascist regime with US support after the CIA coup against Mossadegh (a nationalist that happened to be effectively against communism).
Was Guatemala after the coup against Arbenz, again, CIA-led coup, socialist? No, it was also fascist, with heavy US military support for decades and that little "extra": torture.
What about Chile? Allende's socialist, democratically elected government ousted, again by the CIA in tandem with the local military. Pinochet takes his place: Fascism, repression and torture again.

only 3 examples out of dozens since the end of WWII. Third world governments wanting their resoruces to benefit themselves and trying to redistrubute the wealth concentrated in the elites (just like it concentrates there now, as in everywhere in the "free world", since the US effectively impose its rules) and then getting toppled and replaced with client regimes, fascist client regimes with widespread torture and repression by local military men trained in the "School of the Americas", Georgia, US. What did they learn there? all those military men from South America? "counterinsurgency", that is repression, torture, destruction of free speech and any kind of disidency. The elite's wealth kept in the elite's hands, as it should be, according to the Empire.

Amazing what the propaganda apparatus can achieve right in its source. But also here in the Third World, as most people is completely ignorant of what I mentioned above, some even think they are actually "liberating" something. Pretty sure humanity is no that dumb, they just don't care, is easier not to know all this.

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And the term originated with Mussolini, Franco, and Hitler.

I see people call things fascists today while they themselves act more like the fascists.

Was/is fascism a real thing? Definitely. Yet it is more than disagreeing with a person. It encompassed specific approaches to dealing with people. Each case had its equivalent of brown shirts in those three historical precedents.

As to the others I haven't studied them to know if they did as well. I also don't know if they are truly fascist or not without looking into them.

I do know the so-called anti-fascists we have in the U.S. act more like brownshirts and fascists than anyone else in our nation. They do everything they can to silence free speech, they advocate violence to do it. They believe they are fighting fascism, but sadly most of them don't know much about actual fascism.

Could this be the case in your other examples? I don't know since I haven't looked into those particular examples. I looked into the three progenitor cases.

Typically it is government run by the corporations. Yet, people naively believe socialism avoids this. Instead it grants monopoly on a grand scale. It is essentially corporations with guaranteed no-bid contracts. Fascists LOVE socialism. They don't like free market though. Thus, why they do what they can to make certain it is not free and is in their control.

The three wealthiest people in the U.S. lately have been pushing massive amounts of socialist drivel. Much like the Nazis did.

People think the ideas are great when they don't have to think about the fact they have to steal from people to push these agendas.

Excellent, you completely avoided any kind of meaningful response. The info is available, if you don't know about it perhaps you don't care, except you do talk about it, a lot.

If you can't see the meaning. That doesn't mean there isn't one. More arrogance...