A man who took a rifle into a Washington pizza restaurant on Sunday "to self-investigate" a fake news report that it was operating a child abuse ring has been charged with assault with a dangerous weapon, police in the U.S. capital said.
See article by Reuters, and ask yourself if you want to continue taking part in a witch hunt.
The article clearly reads "'Pizza Gate' (a fictitious online conspiracy theory)", which negates its validity as an unbiased source of investigative journalism, if such validity ever existed in the first place.
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#saiku , so I understand you want to keep witch hunting until someone actually gets killed and maybe even beyond that?
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Watch this video and tell me podesta is innocent. Someone deserves to get killed. IF it was your child you might want them dead to.
https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@jacobcards/the-most-important-pizzagate-email-did-you-leave-a-handkerchief
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Look, @,jacobcards, I don't know you, and I don't mean to disrespect you in any way, but to say that somebody aught to be killed based on that , now come on!
This is no joke. And not just because people could be hurt in real life in the short run, because these kind of things create the slippery slope to fascism.
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It is not witch hunting when there are real crimes happening. The difference between this and witch hunting is that witches, in the medieval sense, are not real and never were while paedophilia and child abuse are. In this case it appears to have been an error.
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Yes, child abuse is unfortunately a very real thing. But Pizzagate is an abuse of abuse. Think about what it does to the fight against real abuse. From now on, real child abusers will say that they are witch hunted like in Pizzagate.
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You are assuming that the unfortunately-named pizzagate allegations are all fabricated. So far evidence points to the contrary. When law enforcement fails to provide an impartial investigation, ordinary people will.
Edit: The matter needs to be properly investigated by trained officers. Pending that, normal citizens will not just dismiss it as we are dealing with child abuse on an unprecedented scale here, and that's me being generous with the description. If you think about it, think of how many people you've personally met in your life who attended these "black magic" type sex orgies. I can think of a few I've known myself and I'm sure most people can think of at least one person who was into that sort of thing. I'm not saying all those attending these events are paedophiles or that children are present but putting it out there for perspective-sake. It is very common, more common than people think. Paedophilia is also very common. Knowing this, we cannot dismiss these allegations as "fake"/"false" without an investigation into them. After all, no allegations are "true" until investigated and proven so in a court of law.
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"The matter needs to be properly investigated", you see, the real story here, is how much the trust of the citizens of the US in your law enforcement authorities has diteruated.
So far I did not see any shred of real evidence about Pizzagate and every time I ask people for some, they point me to more and more lunatic YouTube videos so... you know what? let me clue you in about what would work as evidence for me:
I used to be very skeptical about the allegations against Lance Armstrong. You know what changed my mind? When I saw a CNN program about him, in which they said that in the form he filled before his first cancer operation he admitted that he used steroids and other drugs, but then Mr. Armstrong denied that he filled such a form. It was obvious that he lied because that's a standard form in every operation.
You see how this is presuasive? I didn't see anything remotely like that regarding Pizzagate. Nowbody can even tell me what are the facts of the matter. Everyone just run on fade clues and speculations without understanding that this is no game.
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I can't reply directly to your previous comment so starting a new thread. I see what you're saying. The problem as I see it is the type of people who are currently self-investigating pizzagate are not part of the law enforcement community and likely have zero skill in conducting investigations. They are simply not credible.
However, that being said, those are allegations of such a severe nature that they MUST be investigated by a competent authority. When you call the police department to report that your neighbour scratched your car, they will investigate, regardless if it is true or not. They may find that there are no scratches at all, but a competent professional will spend his time on the matter. That's what has to be done here. If there is no investigation then what is the world saying to victims of child abuse and child trafficking; that unless you have concrete proof your matter won't even land on a detective's desk?
I personally hope that it's all false and a pizza party is just that, a pizza party. But I don't know that and neither does anyone else except for the people involved. The allegations come from emails and other documents; discarding them without a proper look is wrong and immoral.
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I agree that any suspicions, certainly that severe, have to be investigated.
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