Hi all, as usual I apologize in advance for my bad english. I would like to explain the content of the new DDL (a request for discussion of a law) which entered today into the higher chamber in Italy, also named as "Senato". This is because it contains several interesting articles, which are very different when compared with, by example, Germany.
You can dowload the document here, for reference (it's in italian): http://download.repubblica.it/pdf/2017/politica/gambaro.pdf
The proposal starts with a long explanation about the content, as usual when a new act is proposed in Italy. I don't know if this is also usual in other parliaments, being honest. Anyhow, this is only useful for courts which will be entitled to take decisions when the law is being enforced: to tell the court what was the aim of the law, in short. Anyhow, is not forcing a court to do this and that, is just to explain the rational.
So I will ignore it, and go to the contents.
The law contains two big areas, one for people who manages a "generic platform" to spread informations on the internet. The meaning of this "generic platform" definition is very wide: basically it applies to **anyone** which opens a stupid forum in the internet. Any kind of space when users are allowed to put any "news", is covered.
The second area is for people who spread "fake news". The interesting thing is that the law is indicating a crime scene, which means, responsibility is strictly personal. So is not for ISPs or for social network managers: actually the USER which first injects the news in the platform is the target.
This is a very different approach if compared to Germany. Germany is proposing a huge fine (500.000€) to the social network itself, or at least the platform manager, if and when it refuses to remove some offending content. Italy is going to fine the user which injects the news with a lower amount (5000€) plus a crime conviction (1-2 years of jail) , which will cost ~10.000€ given the usual cost of attorneys, trials, and so.
So the first big thing is that the italian parliament is trying to stop the fake news to the source, instead of hitting the media itself. Given the fact this is a crime, in Italy prosecutor is entitled to ask facebook the IP/logs of the person posting the offending "fake news". If the provider rejects to cooperate, the prosecutor has the power to block the whole social network. Differently from Brasil, there is a little chance to have this back in a short time: even if the social network will require to be unlocked by the ISPs, it would take months to have the case discussed. So you can assume Facebook/whoever will give the source IP and other metadata to the police. They do it, always.
So the first part states the USER which is posting the news as the first user to post it into the social network, is accountable and liable. The punishment goes from 1 year if there is no defamation, in which case the person being defamed could join the trial asking more money.
Article 2 is even more interesting. It keeps the approach of the first article, focusing on the user, and cover the case when the aim of the fake news is to undermine , distort or influence politics and/or democracy. In such a case the fine is the same, with the extension that, if the news contains "hate" or spreads "hate" against anyone, the fine and the jail time punishment doubles.
In practice, if you post a fake news which is just fake, you get 5000€ + 1 year jail. If you post a fake news which is influencing politics , hitting the government or democracy, you get 5000€ + 1 year jail again.If your fake news contains hate speech, you get it twice.
In Germany there is no such a difference, I suspect because "hate speech" is punished already by a different law.
Article 3 and 4 are about the platform admin. As I said, "what a platform is" is defined in such a wide range description. This means, if you install a PHP forum into your website, you are in. Steemit is covered, by example. Chat applications for mobile are covered. Almost anything which works with computer, networks and allow to spread news is covered, until spreading news is possible.
If you run such a platform, you need to communicate it to the government that you do, together with your personal data, and your "certified email". "Certified email" is a standard of signed email adopted in many countries in Europe to take the place of official communications via "snail mail". The difference is that each SMTP server is providing a delivery report, and the mail server (IMAP, exchange, etc) will issue a read report when you read the email, up to the sender. All of them are cryptographically signed, so they are a legal evidence you actually read the email.This "certified mail" must be visible to all users of the platform.
Article 4 is about to amend news.
This article is related to platform admins. Imagine a user of your platform is saying "Maria is a bitch, I've seen her doing this and that". Then as a platform admin you cannot prevent Maria to post in your platform her defense. If Maria is a public person, and publishes her defense , to say, in TV, YOU must publish this in your platform, linking the amendment to the related post. You must publish it in full.
If you don't , you may get a fine up to 2ooo€ per post.
Article 5 implements the "right to be forgotten", which is not a Morrissey' song like it seems: is the (in)famous law made by the European Union, where you may ask any platform manager to remove offending posts, at any moment. It was never embedded into the Italian law before, so now it is.
Article 6 is about implementing some education against fake news into schools. Means people in the schools will be lectured about the new law.
Article 7 is very "juicy": it is about , responsibility, accountability and liability of platform's managers.
Basically, it states that the platform admin MUST monitor CoNSTANTLY the whole content of the platform against fake news, in the specific case when users are showing a very strong interest about the content. Means, by example, a controversial topic MUST be monitored ALWAYS and CONSTANTLY by the platform admin.In case you realize this happens because of a fake news, as defined before, you MUST remove it immediately. Also, you MUST care of any report from users, when it comes to fake news.
If you don't , you get the same punishment as described before, which means from 5000 to 10000€ fine, plus 1 to 2 years of jail, per article.
The last article just entitles the parliament, (actually a commission for communications) to keep this issue under control.
So the approach is very different from Germany. Is different because it focuses on users posting the contents first, instead of focusing on the social network themselves. Nevertheless, then it focuses also on them, so I would say, the law is very similar to the German one, but: the punishment in Germany is supposed to be higher, to scare big players. In italy fee and punishment is smaller, because it is supposed to ALSO hit the users which are injecting the news into online platforms.
WOW! although I do kind of understand where the people behind the proposed law are coming from, it may be a law which results in 'natural' censorship. or it'll drive websites and platforms outside the borders of Italy where Italian law is not applicable. Both scenario's are not wanted.
How is the general public in Italy taking this act proposal?
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Be aware that , more or less since 2002, any crime done by italian citizens IS under the italian law, until the citizen lives in Italy. Meaning, it doesn't matters if Facebook is italian or not: until you are living in italy you are under the rule of italian law, and when you did something forbidden , you will be prosecuted.
The only thing a provider could do is to deny the authority the logs. Which will trigger , almost automatically, the ban: according with italian laws , the government can ask the ISP to BGP blacklist whoever, and there is a pretty good record of this activity: so if facebook will refuse to provide the informations, first it will be almost banned to do business in Italy (which is ~7Bn$ market for them) and then banned at all.
Here you can find a list of sites banned already: https://censura.bofh.it/elenchi.html Please notice some of them they are banned by IP, meaning BGP blackhole: changing your DNS is not working if you are using any italian ISP.
So to "move away" has a little chance to help if you are an italian citizen: basically, they stopped any italian citizen to post, share or repost any of this news, and to create forum/groups which are reporting them.
The public opinion in Italy has known Berlusconi in the past, which means, Italy owns the copyright of Trump. So it is not the first of the problems in their minds , now.
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Now you got me getting curious if similar laws apply in the Netherlands, the country I live in, regarding the out of border done 'crimes'. I will for sure research that topic.
Berlusconi is indeed the blueprint for President Trump hahaha; although it is not really to laugh about :(
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Well, being Italian I have seen this "Trump" already. Being Honest, Trump looks like a fake chinese copy of Berlusconi.
What happens is this kind of phony idiots are trying to apply their imaginary policy, fitting an imaginary world. When it won't work at all, they start saying:
of course, the population is terrorized to have this guy in the button room, capable to take important decisions. But, after a while, the people will realize that decisions are NOT taken by the government, so that, having a showman in charge is almost funny, and mostly harmless.
Politics is more or less understated: the government has a very little power. And people like Berlusconi or Trump will help the people to realize that, there is no such a thing like "the government".
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I actually agree with you; Politicians are mostly the spokespeople. And this is for sure the case in the USA, more than maybe in the Netherlands...although in Netherlands also corporates and others are determining what really will happen. Luckily we have a multi party system with at least 2 parties in government and sometimes even 3 or 4, which makes even the spokespeople somewhat 'in the middle' to be able to form a government.
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When you are in democracy , the problem is that you need consensus.
"Need consensus" means, if you "decide" to do "A", corporations, unions, parties, and more, must enforce it. Without consensus, any democracy cannot work.
This kind of people like BErlusconi and Trump are coming from companies, where they don't need consensus, and things are happening just because the CEO said that.
So what they will do is to be in charge, start doing laws or executive order, and expect the country will enforce the new policy, like it would happen in a company.
Unfortunately, this is not working for countries. As a result, all of their policies will fail. So they will start to react as they did in companies, like "fire this guy! fire that guy!" and they will realize that no, the government cannot fire unions, cannot fire corporations, cannot fire parties.
Is just a matter of time, and Trump realize that politic is much more complex than business.... and this is why he isn't good enough for that. He may only achieve business, but politics is too hard for him.
Business < politics.
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