To add context, you can't just go to a gun store and buy a gun at the age of 13. Federally licensed firearms dealers are required to perform a background check prior to selling a gun to anyone. Private sales from a non-licensed individual however allow the sale of a long rifle or shotgun to a person of any age. Pistols are still restricted by age in either case. An individual must become a licensed firearms dealer to sell firearms for a profit.
What you're seeing in this video is what's commonly referred to as the "gun show loophole" where private sellers go to a gun show (due to the number of potential buyers) and sell their weapons. If the individual that sold that rifle to the kid made a profit he technically did break the law, otherwise this is all okay by the books currently.
An interesting topic for discussion but I believe the context above is necessary.
That's not entirely accurate. Mostly, but not entirely.
"Profit" isn't how the ATF determines whether a private seller requires an FFL for their activities. Their, incredibly vague, definition is "engaged in the business" of selling firearms.
They don't care if someone buys a rifle and then sells it for a couple hundred bucks above what they paid. They care if it's done repeatedly.
From the number of guns on that guy's table, I would guess he is likely a licensed dealer.
The important part to note in the video is the abrupt cuts during the "sale." There was an adult with the kid, it's entirely possible their participation was edited out.
FFLs are prohibited from selling long guns to under 18 and handguns to under 21. By federal law. No state law overrides that restriction on FFLs.
Private sellers are largely bound by state laws regarding age restrictions, mostly pertaining to the legal age of possession in the state.
This was filmed in Virginia, which doesn't restrict private long gun sales by age. That's open to disagreement, of course, but kids have been shooting since they were 10 in rural states for a century.
This sale was either entirely legal, entirely legal and the video was edited to make it appear differently than it actually happened, or a felony that would result in loss of license and prison time for that dealer if he were reported.
Given the obvious bias against gun sales, I'm gonna guess "we shut down an illegal gun dealer" would have been the topic if this sale were anything even close to illegal.
Ah gotcha, thanks for the correction I hope I didn't mislead anyone.
I'm one of those kids that grew up in a rural area and has been shooting guns since I was his age or younger, I figure at gun shows they sell hunting rifles and shotguns to plenty kids that age but most likely the parents are there the majority of times. If it was a private seller he might have assumed that whatever adult was there with him was his parent. I think most private sellers would be a little reluctant to sell a firearm to a kid by themselves... but I guess they could legally.
Your observation about the number of guns at his table is suspicious though. Gotta wonder if he was a licensed dealer and if either he broke a law or the video was cut to be dishonest.
To add context, you can't just go to a gun store and buy a gun at the age of 13. Federally licensed firearms dealers are required to perform a background check prior to selling a gun to anyone. Private sales from a non-licensed individual however allow the sale of a long rifle or shotgun to a person of any age. Pistols are still restricted by age in either case. An individual must become a licensed firearms dealer to sell firearms for a profit.
What you're seeing in this video is what's commonly referred to as the "gun show loophole" where private sellers go to a gun show (due to the number of potential buyers) and sell their weapons. If the individual that sold that rifle to the kid made a profit he technically did break the law, otherwise this is all okay by the books currently.
An interesting topic for discussion but I believe the context above is necessary.
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That's not entirely accurate. Mostly, but not entirely.
"Profit" isn't how the ATF determines whether a private seller requires an FFL for their activities. Their, incredibly vague, definition is "engaged in the business" of selling firearms.
They don't care if someone buys a rifle and then sells it for a couple hundred bucks above what they paid. They care if it's done repeatedly.
From the number of guns on that guy's table, I would guess he is likely a licensed dealer.
The important part to note in the video is the abrupt cuts during the "sale." There was an adult with the kid, it's entirely possible their participation was edited out.
FFLs are prohibited from selling long guns to under 18 and handguns to under 21. By federal law. No state law overrides that restriction on FFLs.
Private sellers are largely bound by state laws regarding age restrictions, mostly pertaining to the legal age of possession in the state.
This was filmed in Virginia, which doesn't restrict private long gun sales by age. That's open to disagreement, of course, but kids have been shooting since they were 10 in rural states for a century.
This sale was either entirely legal, entirely legal and the video was edited to make it appear differently than it actually happened, or a felony that would result in loss of license and prison time for that dealer if he were reported.
Given the obvious bias against gun sales, I'm gonna guess "we shut down an illegal gun dealer" would have been the topic if this sale were anything even close to illegal.
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Ah gotcha, thanks for the correction I hope I didn't mislead anyone.
I'm one of those kids that grew up in a rural area and has been shooting guns since I was his age or younger, I figure at gun shows they sell hunting rifles and shotguns to plenty kids that age but most likely the parents are there the majority of times. If it was a private seller he might have assumed that whatever adult was there with him was his parent. I think most private sellers would be a little reluctant to sell a firearm to a kid by themselves... but I guess they could legally.
Your observation about the number of guns at his table is suspicious though. Gotta wonder if he was a licensed dealer and if either he broke a law or the video was cut to be dishonest.
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