VISA and Amex taking baby steps to avoid death by blockchain. The middlemen cutting out their own middlemen.

in news •  7 years ago 

VISA or Amex transactions may look instant when you are using their outdated services. But actually that's not true. https://www.monetha.io/ Which was one of the most sucessful ICOs ever tried to adress the issue of high fees and multi-week settlement time for these merchant payments. (Yes, I used to think Bitcoin sucked.) When I first saw their ICO I was thinking who the hell would invest in this. Their fees were extortionist and transaction time too high compared to using Dash, NEM, PIVX, Bitshares, Verge etc.

 Traditional payment gateways take up to 15 different type of fees. With a transaction fee ranging from 2% to 6%. By using the Ethereum blockchain, Monetha will have a single step and one fee only: a transaction fee of 1.5%. 

But later I figured out how terrible VISA, Amex, MasterCard bunch were. And because of that, Monetha ICO was incredibly successful raising 95 000 ETH in 18 minutes! (but now it's gone down a quite a lot from that former glory)

 Most people are unaware of just how many stages there are in a single VISA or Mastercard transaction. An accepted transaction is only the beginning of a long sequence of intermediary transfers before it lands in the merchant's bank account days or weeks later. Time is money, which is why Monetha transacts in a matter of seconds. No intermediaries. Just you and the customer. 

Now Amex is trying Ripple for near-immediate transfer of funds. What kind of funds and with whom? Let's hear some quotes.

 "It’s only a matter of time before central banks adopt blockchain to settle high-value, interbank fund transfers," 

OoooKaaayyy

Basically Amex is so fed up with middlemen, they want to use Ripple(XRP) to pay other banks. Great. Here is a revolutionary idea. What about letting ripple do all transactions. VISA ended up making their own blockchain-based business-to-business payments service. Again, not for the common people. Just cronies cutting out middlemen between them.  Visa's global head of solutions says:  "This week's announcement is just the first step as we work towards a commercial launch of Visa B2B Connect. We are beginning to process bank-to-bank test transactions with select clients. Additional banks, including corporates, will follow soon." 

This is our competition people. Witness them. These jackasses think highly of themselves for doing near immediate fund transfer with another bank while I can send 10 million dollars (If I had that much) to a person in Zimbabwe under 2 seconds using Dash, PIVX or Bitshares. Not 2 weeks. 2 seconds.

All I have to say is: "Know thy Enemy". 

With a mobile wallet at your hand you are already faster and cheaper than the bank. With their current developments they'd be able to have easy cross-border payments by facilitating direct payments between institutions. That's it. When you are your own bank, VISA or Amex wouldn't have much of a place left for them. They can't be cheaper and as they are middlemen, they will be always slower no matter how many of their own middlemen were cut off.

Promote public blockchain and let these middlemen know that they are a liability to human progress no matter how much they try to ride the blockchain and optimize their age old processes.

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Know thy enemy and know yourself and you will never be in peril In thousand battles.

A really old asian dude. Lol

If I remember correctly, That's Art of War by Sun Tzu.

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Banks are holding on for dear life and an entity like Visa is really on the chopping block. There is no reason for their existence in 5-10 years when cryptocurrencies take over. Why would anyone use MC/Visa when they simply use a less costly payment system which many cryptocurrencies off. Couple this with Atomic Swaps and you see how the end is near.

Of course, that does not mean they wont continue to try and influence what happens. Expect a huge fight. That is why I feel it is so important to amass as much crypto as possible....the time is now.

Agreed.
The governments will join to help their crony friends.Banning crypto will cause a PR disaster to make war on drugs/terror look like great victories. So instead it will be digital legal tender in the form of a FEDcoin supported by banking institutions which won't support public unregulated cryptos. They will force merchants to accept their coin and make them unable to refuse getting paid in FEDcoin. That will create lots of adoption and it will be the government strategy to gain market control. That's why we need coin that can handle vast amount of Tx/s to gain market adoption. I'm with Dash, NEM, PIVX, Bitshares. I'm not too sure about BCH as it doesn't reward the nodes. Scaling will be expensive. Rewarding nodes is a must for scaling. BCH could implement this in a hard fork. But I'm not sure if they will.

Great post. Recently came across your blog, earned a new follower.

Thank You and Welcome aboard!

An article of Wisdom inDeeD. The unknown factor is the leverage each time that the money is placed through such intermediaries creates unknown vast wealth for the veiled Dictaor money control systems that is placed in plain sight but unaware to 9/10 th of society. Blockchain technology with the infinite processing speeds is the future of all things in the ether system. To leave a mysterious quote....... "When the unknown becomes Known, only then it Remains Unknown"

Thank You Kindly

That's not the worst of it. The end game is total elimination of financial privacy while government cronies would use zk-SNARKs. In UK the the law was passed to spy on citizens but it also said it's not applicable to MPs. Luckily most crypto developments are open source. And don't underestimate mixing either. Encryption is obscuring things. Mixing emulate cash. It keeps transparency while making it almost impossible to figure out WTF happened in that transactions. Lots of techies underestimate the simple elegance of trustless mixing of coins like Dash.

I comprehend in Depth what you Speak.....It is a Wicked web That is Woven.........This is Basically WW3 as A Currency War...that will end with total Anhilation as the Atlantean society did as it imploded quickly in it's last war.........If something is not soon to be done...............

Great Info my Friend
Thank You Kindly

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