fact is, they are killing kids because of piece of some dirt.
nothing can be such primitive as greed for more territory.
RE: Zionist Forces Arrested A 9 Year Old Boy Today In Occupied Palestine
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Zionist Forces Arrested A 9 Year Old Boy Today In Occupied Palestine
Fact is that regardless of the political situation, the kids are arrested for trying to kill or injure people, and are motivated by lies about Jews and the history of the land, as evidenced by the propaganda kids' poem above. Since the PA/Hamas want more kids pictured interacting/throwing stones/being arrested or injured by Israeli soldiers, it is also why the cause of his arrest is conveniently absent from the article and Lyndsay's post. It's also probably why no one will answer, "what should you do with an unattended kid who is trying kill people?" Or is it that like the original source, neither of you really care what the kid was doing?
Aren't they reasonable questions? You didn't read the "article" and ask yourself why he was arrested and why it was left out of the details? Isn't rock throwing a situation that must be dealt with in the present, despite arguments about who owns what land? What do you do, right now, with a kid slinging rocks at random people?
Or are you one who argues that he has a "right" to murder people (presumably over some dirt,) but that Jews and/or Israelis should just think of him as an innocent 9 year old as he tries?
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"what should you do with an unattended kid who is trying kill people?"
you mean like eastern europe football derbies?
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@interceptor, cuntextualize will never stop making excuses for ethnic cleansing. He literally follows me just to troll my posts on Palestine with his zionist propaganda. I wouldn't waste another breath on him, he does this for fun.
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Why can't you just answer Lyndsay? Because you don't, I'm forced to think that you seem to believe the kid has a right to attempt murder, in his effort to ethnically cleanse Israel of Jews. (As evidenced by your silence and lack of a constructive response to a perfectly reasonable question, which you minimize into an "excuse," also your name calling, the diversion, the attempt at controlling another's thoughts, etc.)
Questions are propaganda?!!!! What fact, detail, or opinion did I express that was propaganda, or a lie, or false at all?!!!! It's propaganda to admit or ask what the kid did, and how he should be dealt with?!!!! Palestinians don't throw rocks at people every day? Just propaganda right? Meanwhile you quote an article that excludes what the kid did to (even potentially) deserve arrest! Wow @ the irony!!!! If you don't answer, I'll assume you think anything that differs from your opinion is propaganda... (And that my facts/questions are entirely correct/reasonable!!!)
Why don't you allow @interceptor to think for himself instead of trying to poison him by using your animal foul language and lies. While you, hypocritically, on this very post in the comments above, have stated you want Palestine to be "free from the river to the sea," and therefore have once again declared your intent to ethnically cleanse Israel of Jews, G-d forbid...
You make claims and don't even understand the basic demographics of the country. It's you who leaves out information and lies about Israel for fun, and MONEY!!!!! My posts that earn a few cents are about Israeli and Palestinian cooperation and PEACE!!! (Also notice that it's primarily Jews who upvote me, not you, not Palestinians, Arabs, or Muslims (one exception,) but it's Jews...) It's me who thinks both Jews and Arabs in the region should have a homeland, while you lie, suggesting that I want to ethnically cleanse Arabs from the land... you on the other hand...
Since she doesn't get it and I asked my question for the sake of building peace and constructively finding out what she thinks should be done, but she won't admit that no one has the right to throw rocks,... do you hear me @interceptor? I want everyone to have a happy home, full rights and peace, but ask, what should be done with a kid slinging rocks, right now?
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Perhaps the real question to be asked is WHY would a 9 year old kid WANT to (allegedly) throw a rock? What circumstances would lead him to that kind of behavior?
I read the book "The General's Son" by Miko Peled, where he describes the mindset of the bulk of Palesinians who want nothing more than to be left alone to live their lives without constant persecution. And the Zionists efforts to impose the greatest possible discomfort to them just for being Palesinian.
Zionists are pathetic, and sadistic.
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there is too much of effort in his comments to be considered fun imo
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Thank you. It's not for fun, it's for peace. I wish my question could have lead to a constructive conversation, about a set of actual, daily situations that remain unsolved, and are reported about in a less than complete way...
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bro, go activate yourself in local community and make peace. you wont make any peace on steemit.
those kids are raised by state of israel, israel airforce, artillery and police.
can you imagine them as 30 yrs old, upgraded with prison experience?
but thats not a problem. lets discuss obvious things.
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I don't think we'll "make peace" on steemit, but we can for the long term, foster it's creation with hope, by discussion to the best of our abilities, and with as much information as possible.
"Those kids" aren't "raised by the state of Israel..." but by their parents, and school systems, Hamas, the PA, which all but force certain unfortunate interactions with Israel by their incitement to violence, paying terrorist salaries, omissions of detail as shown above and/or lies about Israel/Jews, by starting several actual wars by for instance firing +/- 14,000 rockets from Gaza, or by aligning with 5 Arab countries and attacking, killing random people, and many others. But most relevant, is the turning down of peace offers more times than I accurately know of... (At least 6 offers for sovereignty and peace, from the Peel commission recommendation for land for Palestine accounting for 80%, but then down to 48% of the territory, over the successive refused offers, iirc.)
Look, a 30 year old opponent to Israel, hardened by prison is not something any Israeli wants, and it is a problem. But the problem isn't going away by lying about or denying history, or causes of arrests, or that the PA isn't paying people to go out and randomly murder.
Surely you have for example, heard the now famous lie that the Temple Mount in Jerusalem never had (two) Jewish Temples on it, and that it is claimed as Muslim alone, (much like Israel, "from the river to the sea.") Despite it being evident archeologically and historically, from many peoples histories, i.e. the Romans, the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Babylonians, even the Muslims themselves, have writings and historical documents about the Temples. So why does the PA, media and other official groups still make this absurd and blatant lie? And what effect on the kids would it have to hear it again and again, then see Israeli police present there? (About 3 months ago, a murderer shot 2 police in the back, on the Temple Mount.) Is that less than obvious question also not satisfactory to you? Because I think this lie and others the child was raised on, is one of the primary causes of the 30 year old's anger.)
How deep would you want to go? As much history/religion/psychology/law as we both know, or should we talk about something we can better wrap our heads around?
Like what in good faith, to do with a kid who is right now, slinging stones...?
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shoot them like always? ^
or even better, burn them alive while they re still in cribs. ^
cluster bomb them, spray their schools, kill their family members. get your friendly settlers in and grab as much of land you can.
you know, usual stuff.
and then be a victim. cry about 14.000 missiles and about 2 dead policeman, who made more headlines around the world than fukushima disaster.
you know, before israel, only ww2 quisling Croatia had something similar to deal with naughty kids / Jastrebarsko.
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You see an arrest and then contrarily claim shooting them is "like always" and (sarcastically?) better when asked what else should have been done instead of the arrest? Interesting.
Who is crying victim around here citing a kid arrested for committing a crime, but leaves out the details of the crime, thereby making him a victim?
I was simply giving factual context for a reasonable question, not crying victim, as is clearly the entire purpose of this post by Lyndsay.
But I see now, you also seem to have no interest in solving or even discussing the problem in a constructive way.
As I still don't know what you or anyone actually think Israel should do with a kid slinging stones at cars... I think arrest until his parents/guardians are found, and depending on the situation, a fine for his parents, is the best solution under the circumstances. Is that not more than "reasonable" after an attempt at murder? Why can't you or Lyndsay propose something constructive too? Or are you hiding the fact that you might also want to harm Jews, and believe the kid has a right to hurl stones? If not the above, I genuinely don't get why it is so hard to answer what anti-zionists want Israel to do with a kid slinging stones?!!!!
A) Allow rock throwing anywhere, anyplace, and submit to being killed.
B) Kill rock throwers caught in the act.
C) Injure rock throwers.
D) Scare away rock throwers.
E) Arrest rock throwers.
F) Fine rock throwers.
G) Confiscate goods/property of rock throwers.
H) Something else reasonable that you can suggest?
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i answered you but you are not reading. there are kids throwing stones at police, killing them and each other every weekend because of football. how they solve it? im sure not by firing live ammo and sniping them around.
you are desperate to keep it on some detaining case, which may or may not been justified, i wasnt there, and i dont know the details. in my country, if my kid does that, i would be responsible and one to detain, not 9yr old kid for gods sake. but diff countries, diff laws. i dont have problem with kids being detained, if thats your law.
i am telling you about killing of kids because of territory. and you are trying to ignore it.
9yr old kids hurling stones and killing poor Israelis with it are just consequence. and you re investing huge effort in attempt to fix consequences.
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