Wow, the single best conversation I've had since 2012 when I woke up. I'm incredibly grateful to White Walking Feather. He didn't know it when he came on the show, but I consider myself a disciple of his since I watched the movie UNGRIP.
UNGRIP is about a systematic understanding of who we are, what is the state, and what is the relationship between those two entities. It's about understanding parts of law that can be used to help us understand our place in the world.
The story of White Walking Feather ultimately revolves around the notion of declaring peace. That's an internal statement, a life choice, and a methodology used to approach interactions with our surroundings, our friends, our family, and the State.
The conversation
I present below the recorded conversation that @wwf and I had last night. It's hard to sum up as it's pretty long, but it's an exploration of who we are, a glimpse into the I AM, and an attempt to figure out a pathway forward that's both peaceful and convenient. It's about questioning the world around us, and trying to find an equilibrium where we can have what we need, live comfortably, and shake the system to the core through peaceful coexistance in our community. This involves many layers from the physical, the spiritual, and the corporate fictions that exist.
I'm personally at the crossroads of this conflict of both dying to get out and afraid of the consequences for my wife and very young children. You can hear that conflict as I try to question rob about how to find the overlap, if it's even possible, between the fictitious world and living peacefully in spiritual practice while experiencing some of the convenience of the corporate fiction.
For Americans you are "voluntarily" a serf in a feudal system masked by a constitutional republic masked by a democrazy. What is the alternative?
I really appreciate @wwf for speaking on the topic of self governance in the aggregate sense. It is an inescapable Truth, that qualities such as order, peace, prosperity, harmony - all the things most people say they want to achieve on a societal scale - can only be generated in any given society when the people of that society are living in a state of self-governance based on their individual knowledge of the objective difference between Right and wrong. Any attempt to fix the current societal systems will ultimately fail if the majority of people on this planet remain unwilling or unable to govern themselves according to Moral Principles. @wwf eluded to what I refer to as the "Law of Freedom," when he talks about focusing on establishing peaceful relationships as a pathway to solving the problem that is the current system of violence. Peace, freedom, order, prosperity ect., will organically manifest as the people of this world commit to living a life of peace. The "Law of Freedom" simply states that the degree of Freedom within a society is determined by the degree of Truth and Morality that the people of that society embody. This can be a very difficult thing for many people to understand, and some will violently reject it due to the indoctrination that has been imposed by the system of violence itself. Attempting to fix our current societal systems by political means, legislative means, military means etc., is analogous to rearranging the furniture on the Titanic and expecting it to remain afloat when there is a hole in the ship that is drawing water in and causing the ship to sink. Doing such things does not address the root causal factor of the problem, and we really need to acknowledge this in order to affect REAL genuine and positive change. It takes a lot of courage to speak on this issue because the implications of the Truth require us all to take personal responsibility for ourselves in ways that most people are unprepared to do, and the subconscious or even conscious recognition of this can result in violent opposition in various forms. So thank you @wwf for having the courage to speak about these issues! Much Love brother!!!
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Thank you for an awesome show, @aggroed! I had seen Ungrip before, but seeing it again just re-enforces the fact that I am on the right journey. I thank you for inviting @wwf to the show. You are both amazing people. We need more people to blaze the trail to peace and harmony.
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I'm grateful you enjoyed the film and @aggroed show. Peace to you my dear friend.
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V Interesting @wwf interview.
Most admirable.
Though I agree with certain statements - I don't with others.
For example, there is no Mother Earth. There is a creator, our Heavenly Father. We are called to be responsible stewards of our resources, and dominate all animals.
Gen 1:26, 28
Note tho, God doesn't say: Subdue man...
The main incongruency I found with @wwf's statements is this:
He states, rightely so, that our body is given to us by our creator, and we ought to take care of it, keep it healthy (Biblical: Our body is the temple of God 1 Corinthians 6:19).
Yet, @wwf is willing to let his body die, not willing to defend himself when the enemy comes against him? It is his time to die? While I agree with the peace of the Spirit of God, not being afraid to die, we are to defend ourselves and most importantly, those who are in our care. What happens @wwf to your family if you perish out of neglect to defend youself and your loved ones?
Nevertheless, respect, @wwf.
cc @aggroed
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It's kind of difficult finding the balance of our existence.
I think with deep questioning and meditation will be able to unravel some things that pose as mystery for now.
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awesomely awesome!!
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Highly rEsteemed!
I was looking forward to this interview... couldn't catch it live.
Thank you for sharing.
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Great one
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simply amazing, thanks
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@aggroed you may be interested in a UN Passport that the fellow in the following clip uses:
It was wonderful hearing you interviewed @wwf! It had not been clear to me the depth of your journey!
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P.S. : http://www.worldservice.org
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What is the alternative.... the never ending question indeed.
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I was mega tired on Sunday night (too tired to deal with Cope trending in chat) so I was listening to this and drifting in and out of sleep. A fucking mega trippy way to listen to it I have to say.
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#solutions looking forward to listening to this. Thanks for sharing @aggroed. And, many thanks to @wwf for sharing with us a peaceful way. I am also a person learning in the foot steps to become the change i long to see in the world. 🙌 good stuff guys!!
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Love it! More please!
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