INTRODUCTION
First of all: I would like to wish for all of you to still be a part of our community by the end of 2021. Every year, new members are joining and some older ones are disappearing. Hopefully, this year we will manage to grow without losing anyone from our community.
I also want to THANK YOU all for your supportive nominations towards Project.hope in the "Steemit Awards 2020" challenge.
Hopefully, I can take 10minutes of your time as well today, as I would like to brainstorm some issues with all of you and learn your opinion on the discussed topic.
IMPORTANT DISCUSSION with Adity
Just today, I had an interesting discussion with @adityajainxds, which I would like to share with you (some of our Project.Hope core team members).
Just a short introduction first: several weeks ago Adity suggested an idea of launching HOPE token on hive-engine. As much as I liked this direction, I've shared my concerns with him.
Those concerns are strictly related to support, which we've been receiving as a community from Xpilar (our current major rival in "Steemit Awards 2020" challenge).
He has been supporting PH since the very beginning, and he was the first one of a very few large "whales" who joined our curation trail. Which allowed Project.hope to spread its wings. So losing his support would hurt, and it's something I never want to do.
So why am I worried?
MY DYLEMA
I'm concerned that by launching HOPE token on Hive-engine we would look like we're taking sides in conflict between those 2 blockchains. And he potentially could limit his support towards PH in the future.
It's not a secret that Xpilar has been targeted by some HIVErs in the past and currently he doesn't like Hive at all.
I've been worried that creating our own token on HE may affect support received from Xpilar and his community (he is managing a few large accounts, having total over 500k SP).
At the same time, SMTs were not delivered yet and Steem-engine is dead. So Hive-engine may be the only option. And I'm not saying that HOPE tokens will be launched, but I would like to have such an opportunity. I would like to be able to make decisions without feeling much external pressure.
Hope so far I'm making sense?
SUGGESTED SOLUTION
Please allow me to copy+paste part of my chat with Adity:
I've an idea how to handle Xpilar and reduce risk of him stopping support towards PH (in case if we would decide to launch HOPE token on hive)
Currently, PH is his main competitor for Steemit awards 2020. We've tons of nominations.
I want to pull out in second round from this challenge and officialy give my vote to Xpilar to his community "World of Xpilar" and ask all our members also to support him as a community builder and as a best community
This way he will more unlikely reduce his support towards PH.
At the same time, I'm afraid that if we would win (even second or 3rd place) then we will only attract more hostile attention on hive. And that it would only backfire. Plus STINC is pressuring everyone to post ONLY on Steemit.
So I'm not sure if I would like PH to be one of winners. And if I would decide to pull-out then ... let's do it in a way which would help our allies (xpilar community) and "cement" our current friendship with Xpilar.
SHARE YOUR VIEW
Naturally, I would like to hear your opinion as well. So please, think about it and share your feedback ASAP (before 5th of January).
DO NOT RESTEEM
Please do not resteem
Yours,
Piotr
Hi @coach.piotr
1- I like your idea for leaving the competition of steemit award because if we win then for sure it would be highlighted and on Hive it may not be good because of anti-steemit. I support your idea of withdrawing the nomination if possible now and support the xpillar.
2- talking about token- As far as I know then utility is very important with any token. I am not against having tokens instead its a good idea but before going further we need to check a few things ..
a) if we create a token with HE then do you think that if the steemit team gets to know about it then how will they react and it could be a reason to lose support from many steemians?
b) I can see that on Hive-engine there are 100+ tokens with no value because the community has not shown interest. Few tokens like Leo and CTP etc are doing good because they good support by the Hive community. I have seen people downvoting project-hope posts many times. I doubt if they don't support then only project hope family is enough to drive the token economy forward?
c) Right now we are in both steemit and Hive but after token launch, if we lose steemit support and on Hive mostly whales are not supporting PH then how would you manage?
this is my opinion about this post.. Thanks.
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Thanks for dropping by and sharing your view with me @alokkumar121
I trully appreciate your time.
Stay safe,
Piotr
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I believe Project Hope has grown into its own entity. As such, much could be gained by instituting a SteemSpecialistsTeam. I'm sure a core group of writers and researcher WITHIN Project Hope could provide leadership for Steemit content. I myself am on several platforms but would be more than happy to follow easy-to-digest leadership strategies for posting on Steemit. Maybe the SteemSpecialistTeambyPH are covering recent development proposals- and in support of their effort, they ask that each PH member create one post that contributes to the discussion as well as commenting on theirs and other posts they identify as important to the matter at hand. This strategy would sort of branch off of how Piotr keeps the PH community healthy while adding core support to Steemit. In other words, the PH community already successfully implements this strategy- it would just be refining it for partnerships (e.g. Xpilar) and the larger ecosystem. So what if some of us still post on Hive. It is Steemit that is nurturing its core infrastructure of content creators at the moment.
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Thanks for dropping by and sharing your view with me @machnbirdsparo
I trully appreciate your time.
Stay safe,
Piotr
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You are bigger than I thought, I am impressed by your humility, you have my full support, it seems to me that you analyze everything very well, you really are a genius, let's support xpilar then, count on me
P.D. The hope token would be something very beautiful, I hope one day it happens
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Hi @ramsesuchiha
I'm not as big as I used to be :P Getting old and shrinking every year lol :P
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The community deserves it's own token (if a good tokenomics and technology plan is available), it's a no-brainer for me. While I value the steemit awards, it's something we can sacrifice for a greater good. Xpillar has contributed well to the steem community and deserves the award as much the community and @crypro.piotr, anyone who wins it amongst this two is OK for me. A token will boost the community especially if it's well planned and managed.
That been said, I'm comfortable with the decision above and will be willing to do my own part as regards it.
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Appreciate your feedback @joelagbo
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Greetings @crypto.piotr.
Before starting to upload content for PH, I had already noticed that the community was a target for attacks from powerful accounts on both platforms, certainly winning would make us a perfect target to revive those attacks, and there the scenario will be completely adverse for PH's growth.
I understand the dilemma, I sensed it from the beginning, I think the most convenient thing in the second round will be to support Worldofxpilar. I would like to close with a phrase from Blaise Pascal, "The greatness of a man lies in knowing how to recognize his own smallness", our virtue in this complex scenario, recognizing our vulnerabilities, therefore, it is necessary to continue consolidating our community muscle as we have been doing, new opportunities to grow will come.
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Thanks for your valuable comment @lupafilotaxia
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Hi @coach.piotr
It's really sad to choose to give up just so that we don't attract hostile attention from others, but this is today's reality ...
At the same time, I fully understand your rationality and wisdom in giving up the contest in order to keep PH community away from retaliatory attacks.
In some cases, it's wise to make one step back in order to take two steps ahead in the future
I think that I got from your words that you consider leaving the contest either way. If that is the case, then it's best to leave with providing support to our allies.
So personally, I will not be disappointed at all to give my vote to Xpilar since he has been supporting PH community
Hopefully, time will eventually be able to mitigate this polarization between Hive and Steem...
Regarding the "hope" token, I frankly haven't yet understood what the real value it could hold or the incentive it could provide, even though I find it in itself an exciting idea...
Thank you for sharing your thoughts :))
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Thanks for dropping by and sharing your view with me @qsyal
I trully appreciate your time.
Glad to know that we're on the same page here.
Stay safe,
Piotr
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I think we should cost vote for xpilar in next phase of voting.
For PH Token, I think it can be developed later this year after completing all the necessary requirements. It will pick up value with the passage of time.
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I so much admire your vision, your time, and the energy you use to build this community! So, of course, it is logic to consider the HOPE token and more.
To be honest, I am quite sure that Xpilar has already noticed this discussion, but I would most likely just try to get a conversation with the guy and explain the situation and hear his thoughts. I believe that an open discussion with only good intentions might be the best way to strengthen that relationship, and then you will see what comes out of it!
I don't see the HOPE token as a blooming token now at first, but it might get some value over time (who knows). So, it could be fun to try, just for fun and who knows... but I, personally, have a hard time seeing that it will be good for anything else than just the experiment in itself!
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Thank you for this comment @unbiasedwriter
Have a little faith hahaha :)
Anyway, I agree that it would be wise to talk to Xpilar. However, I first need to "talk" to all those people who nominated Project.Hope. I need to ensure that they understand my line of thinking and my decision. Right?
Yours, Piotr
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the steemit awards is really a complicated issues to discuss on but here is what i see to it. we have xpilar and the xpilar community as a rival in this and deciding to opt out and give the support to them is somehow thoughtful but shouldnt be on the bases that he do support us and might not support if we compete, that is really wrong.
as a supporter, he supported the hope community because he believe in it, and he will be hoping we keep progressing while he keep supporting us not the other way around. The fear shouldnt be there. am not against support xpillar community because if he win, it is still to our own advantages (support) but we should know that if we cant do this and pull out, in future we will keep pulling out.
About the Hope token, it is far beyond the creating a token, the goals, objective is more important, the reason, why and useful should be look into and about the engine it should be on, that will be an issue because the community is trying to stay neutral to what is actually going on, that should be on hold till both engines are working fine so it can be on both
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BIG THX for this comment @valchiz
Maybe I didn't make myself clear.
My fear is that Xpilar would pull out his support to PH if he would learn that we've launched HOPE token on hive-engine (sometime in the future). Not because we're his rivals in this contest.
Also I'm planning to pull out from this contest, to avoid again being targetted by HIVE-haters (since it's hard for them to accept that PH is trying to be neutral).
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts with me.
Stay safe,
Piotr
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Hi Piotr
I have gone through the post and here is my option-
I would like to ask if this is going to be the same token as Leo, CTP, sports, etc, or something different because if it's the same then I doubt that the Hive community will support it.
Thanks.
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Thanks for dropping by and sharing your view with me @reeta0119
it would be VERY different from those tokens. Can we discuss an idea behind HOPE token on Discord?
Yours, Piotr
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Thanks, Piotr.
I am glad to have more details about the token and I must say that this idea is superb.
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In this case, I believe that a clear and sincere conversation can provide information on how to proceed with xpilar. This community will grow and it is natural that it expands, but if this growth is not convenient for the moment, it will be left aside until it has enough strength to assume the loss of such an ally. You as a leader have shown yourself to be ingenious and a very good negotiator, from my point of view, the most viable way out is to talk directly with xpilar.
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Appreciate your feedback @trabajosdelsiglo
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I do like Win-Win Situations. So if both WoX and PH find options that benefit both parties on both chains, then that's the right answer. Maybe regular correspondence between the two community's leadership and members can find those options.
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Appreciate your feedback @fijimermaid
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So let me share an out of box solution here. If we want to create a project hope token, and we cannot create it here because steem engine is dead, why don't you create the Project Hope token on TRON.
Every Steemit user now has a TRON wallet. It is very easy to create a TRC10 token on TRON for a one time cost of 1024 TRX.
Moving the token from one wallet to another has near to 0 transaction fees, which is different for ERC tokens (don't know how a token created on Hive would look like)
If Steemit people connect their Tronwallet address Tronlink, the ProjectHope token created on TRON can be moved easily.
As an avid TRON user, I can easily teach you how to track the token, see who owns the tokens, even how to do airdrops or whatever to token holders. Maybe this would be a road which wouldn't upset Xpilar and which could remain under the radar for Hives people.
Of course the challenge would be how to spread your token to the Project Hope Hive community.
Trying to manouvre between the two chains will always be a challenge, therefore creating a token in a "third party" might be the road to travel.
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Oh and I wouldn't falter from this competition, this would give a very bad signal to the Steemit community
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I'm afraid that I do not understand.
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Thanks for dropping by and sharing your view with me @carapthian
I trully appreciate your time.
That's very challenging and so much harder than launching token on HIVE-engine. I wouldn't even know where to start ...
ps. I've wrote to you via discord. Let's discuss this topic there? :)
Stay safe,
Piotr
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ok, will open the discord
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After going through comment, I was really impressed seeing backing you up by almost all the decisions you make. Another trying here is that I am happy seeing that you always love to carry everybody along by seeking all our consent.
First of all, pulling out of the contest to support Xpilar, I am really impressed by such move and Xpilar will be proud of this. We arent pulling out because we want to give it to xpilar, but we are pullling out because we want to use this medium to show that we are grateful for their support for us so far. I am 100% certain Xpilar will be proud of this.
As per the token, I want Project to have a native token of it own. I know you have big brian and you can catapult it into apex but we have to really have a token with use case and are we sure we ready for this?
We should keep building the community and when the time is right, we can lunch this token. For the now, we should discuss this in our discord almost every week. Let us see more ideas on how to grow it before lunching the token. A token for our community will surely help the community. We can use money from it to keep pushing the community. @crypto.piotr
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As always, thanks for your comment @tfame3865
Indeed. It is so much easier to manage things knowing that people I work with are supporting me and are willing to put their trust in me :)
He already wrote to me on Discord about it and our decision surely will only make our relationship with him stronger and healthier.
Cheers,
Piotr
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Difficult decision but count on me to support Xpilar in the second round for nothing I would feel disappointed because it is a move that favors the Community, as for the token I think we must wait time because nothing we do with having a coin and not worth anything
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Hello @coach.piotr,
the first thing you should ask yourself is what are you going to do with the PH token. How are the tokenomics going to work, what will be the usecases, etc.
The part from Xpilar, it is easier said than done, but talking to him will be better than just guessing what he thinks.
Best.
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Hi Piotr,
It's really a though balance act to stay neutral on these two chains. I agree with you that it wouldn't do us well to be winning this contest in the eyes of the other blockchain...
I find the idea to create a token quite good and I presented you an idea how it would be interesting for the community. Because of the nature of the token and it's purpose it might be a good idea to call it differently than hope token maybe? If you call it phh token (project hope helper token) for example this may look already different in the eyes of others.
Best regards,
Achim
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@coach.piotr ,
At first I was disappointed. I am not myself advocate of Steem platform, because I see it compromised being in wrong leadership. However, I nominated @project.hope unbiasedly thinking of good work and benefits the community gives rather than - this is in steem platform and bla , bla...
But I see its a delicate situation and I am at hindsight just humbled on you ok to step down for the good of supporting the writters at Steem.
I can imaging how much it means to you...your investment, time, involvement and project.hope sustainance is absolutely vital without this stupid hostility and arrogance.
Forget this stupid steem awards, its just a title. The truth is the community has done good work and lent support and that matters, it changed lives, you got real supportors, and you want friends rather than enemies, so maybe its best you step down from that awards, its just a title.
After than you feel happier, more stress free, all good. But in my eyes, project.hope already best community in both Steem and HIVE and it helped me as a writter to evolve and grow in confidence.
As for the token,,, I would not know, some people say, you should think about it, so maybe plan and wait longer, seems wise advise. Let's understand if community is prepared for such a thing and then leap on it.
Maybe you need more support, developers , lets see...but its absolutely vital we don't make enemies, that sucks, lets keep growing and evoling as a community and reap rewards for it, bigger than this at another time.
Good day.
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Dear @mintymile
Thank you for this feedback. Appreciate it greatly.
I'm glad to know, that we're on the same page here.
Stay safe buddy :)
Cheers, Piotr
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Your decision is right man!
Most times i believe value is not in the price or award. True value is in good leadership.
There is not point getting an award that will only attract enemies, so if letting go an award willingly will maintain friends instead of enemies, I feel that is pretty much better.
@xpillar i have known from the start to be a man of great honor and influence. GRATITUDE to him for supporting project hope.
Again, your decision is right.
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Thanks for your supportive comment @adesojisouljay
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You are always welcome, thanks for your support too.
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So first, i don't see what utility does hope token bring? Most tokens just dump. I think steem rewards are fine.
There is no need to pull out from the awards. Just because you win delegation on a platform, no one is going to punish you for that on hive. Many folks punish the same content on multiple platforms. However, if you do not want to take the risk at all, then support xpillar.
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Publish the same content on both platforms*
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As per my thinking and thoughts, second round will be a poll round in which we have to cast our votes so it easy to cast vote on xpilar. This will show that we love project hope and Piotr but we also thankful for the xpilar and his community for his great work and support and we are with him as a whole as community. This is kind of gratitude we are showing to him for his work.
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This is a very tough decision to make but as long as it is for the good of the community, then it will be worthwhile. I will not have any problem giving my support to Xpilar.
I think that having our own token will be a good idea to increase the strength of our community.
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Staying neutral between steem and hive is the most difficult task in whole blockchain industry.
HOPE token
First of all steem-engine is dead and launching hope token on hive-engine would not be affect to us by steemit inc because If this was, they would not support us due to being active on hive platform, but they did not do so. So i think launching HOPE token will not be a harmful for us. When we won Steemcurator06 delegation, they did not said that you are also active on hive platform so this service is not for you. So i think We won't get any harm from STINC but that can hurt XPILLAR community.
Steemit awards :
I am agree with this and this way we can reduce the risk of not being supported by xpillar.
But it is very tough and we have to think and discuss hundred times before taking any action. we have to maintain Fairness between steem and hive.
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I don't think we should leave our position in the Steemit award because of our allegiance to Xpillar, if anything, we would be putting more pressure on a supporter. My 2 cents is that we continue trying to get ahead in the contest and if we win, we just have more curation power.
As for the Hope token, I think having a token has its benefits but having a token simply for the sake of having it will be redundant. I think we need to improve our framework and build a more solid project that will have high demand. So in essence, perhaps we can pause the token till the future.
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Thanks for your feedback @belemo
Do not take me wrong. I consider leaving this contest either way since it comes with some strings attached (STINC requirement to be loyal towards Steem) and it would being attantion of some haters on hive.
So I will most likely quit this contest. And I think that supporting Xpilar and his community would matters a lot for our alliance with him. So if I can help him then I rather do it.
I totally agree with you on that part. Truth is, I spoke to @achim03 and we've discussed ways of bringing value to HOPE token and we have some decent ideas. Problem so far is the fact, that I'm afraid that launching this token would make us lose Xpilar support (he is following our curation trail with all his accounts (500k SP) with 25% voting power and I rather be considered his ally than "competitor").
Again, thanks for sharing your thoughts with me
Piotr
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As per my thinking and thoughts, second round will be a poll round in which we have to cast our votes so it easy to cast vote on xpilar. This will show that we love project hope and Piotr but we also thankful for the xpilar and his community for his great work and support and we are with him as a whole as community. This is kind of gratitude we are showing to him for his work.
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Hello @coach.piotr I agree that all this could be a problem for PH members, particularly I would not like to be a target for the powerful of HIVE. But I also believe that we cannot be afraid all the time. Having a token from our community would be great, I think it would be a breakthrough for everyone.
My support for xpilar will always be there, I am part of their community and they also deserve to be winners. We are a great community.
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Thanks for dropping by and sharing your view with me @franyeligonzalez
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Hi @coach.piotr
We didn't ask for the split but the split happened. It is going to be nearly a year now and the dust is beginning to settle.
I see the place where there is more momentum and strength is Hive. I see better engagement innovation. Look just how Leofinance has come on. Also, Hive Engine is more alive. Applications like Hive Keychain and PeakD are moving forwards whereas the similar apps on Steem are nearly dead.
I therefore think we shouldn't worry but take bold moves. I would welcome the creation of a token on Hive and think it could bring more value and sense of purpose for those in the PH community.
I would go one step forward, by moving our efforts to Hive and consilidating on one chain, we would have the strength to grow the community further. I think the time it takes to curate two chains is counterproductive. We spend too much time keeping the status quo going which stops us growing further.
I don't see much innovation on Steem. The linking of TRX was welcome, but lets face it, financially it doesn't make a huge difference to any of us. I am sure it serves Tron better than it does us.
Just my thoughts, I will support PH whatever is decided.
Awah
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Thanks for your valuable comment @awah
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I consider that supporting the World of Xpilar community is a way of giving back the support that has been given to "Hope" at one point, after all, in strategic alliances, providing support is part of the growth process.
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Appreciate your feedback @tocho2
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Hmm.... This is really very serious more than I imagined though. I understand your concern as regards to the supports we earn from xpillar and I also know what it takes for Project Hope to get to where it is today. If making Xpillar win the contest is what will make our community grow higher and successful, then I'm also in support of @crypto.piotr.
As for the case of having our own token, it's really a very nice idea though but I think it's best to gain more ideas from experienced individuals in the field.
Thanks for sharing this great post with love from @hardaeborla 💕💓
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BIG THX for this comment @hardaeborla
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It is clear to me that there are more reason not to do HOPE token.
What is not clear to me is why HOPE token? What problem is this token trying to solve?
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I will reply to you via Discord @tomoyan
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Hi @coach.piotr
Happy New Year to all.
Unfortunately, being on both platforms puts us as a project in the eye of the powerful on both sides. However, the problems of one or the other do not have to be ours.
Just as it is published in hive and steemit, it is published in other blockchains, and the same problems do not occur with other platforms.
Literally, steem-engine is dead, and SMTs have no idea when it will happen, or if it will happen at all.
A PH token could give additional value to the community, additional value to the project, that's a reality.
As for supporting Worldofxpilar 100% agreed, it is a community that deserves to be a winner also in this contest. Besides, they give a great support to everyone.
I would have no problem supporting them.
Not at all. I would gladly do it.
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Dear @josevas217
I trully agree with you. However, reality is that problems of others are becoming our problems -> simply because there is enough haters with solid amout of stake who could potentially bring more drama into our community. By targetting our members. After all - there isn't much those haters could do to hurt STINC and I'm afraid, that some of them would see PH community as a perfect target.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Glad we have similar view.
Yours, Piotr
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Hello dear friend, it is an uncomfortable position in which we are now, personally I think that relationships and friendship are more valuable than any award that we can obtain (without underestimating the award), so if you decide to give up the award or the competition For him it is a wise decision, this with respect to the friendship that unites us to xpilar, he thought that this relationship is more valuable than any award.
Now, I don't understand much about how that token will help us when most of the tokens created in the Hiev Engine do not have that much value (help me understand).
So, if the creation of a token is not so urgent, let's wait a little longer and see how everything unfolds and then make a decision on this issue.
That is my personal opinion, thanks for inviting me to the discussion.
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts @fucho80
Is there any chance for you to start checking discord from time to time? It's hard not to be able to keep in touch with you :(
Yours, Piotr
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Firstly, I personally don't see any issue with extending support to Xpillar.
Why?
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He has been supporting PH since the very beginning, and he was the first one of a very few large "whales" who joined our curation trail. Which allowed Project.hope to spread its wings. So losing his support would hurt, and it's something I never want to do.
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This sums up pretty much everything!
People supported ProjectHope & Piotr as they enjoyed their experience in this community. And if Xpillar is the main stakeholder behind Project Hope/ Piotr to provide such experience to the community members then we owe it to Xpillar too.
It is perfectly OK to support someone who is supporting us behind the curtain.
Regarding tokens, frankly speaking, I am new to it, so can't comment on it.
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I agree with you, buddy.
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I guess most users here are unfamiliar with the term STINC
Which will probably limit project.hope community support for xpilar.
@coach.piotr have a valid point which I'm in full support, leaving the contest isn't a bad idea, if that would promote alliance between users on steemit and reduce conflict among users.
Secondly having PH token is good idea but there are multiple factors that will be evaluated and put into consideration like much users support which includes adoption of token and trading.
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First of all I will say evaluating the both side, transferring our nomination vote to xpillar might not really be a good choice. Though it might show we support xpillar but at the same time it will give the members who took their time to write out their nomination post for projecthope community that their step was not worth take which many of them will feel disappointed.
I believe perhaps we can sort out another way we can show our allegiance to xpillar to show we support him which may be through the second stage of the voting also.
Launching of the hope token is quite good and a great idea but also we must ask oursleves, why are we launching the token and what are the steps and strategy we have put in place to keep and preserve the value of the token when launch so that it will not turn to dust.
Though staying neutral between the two blockchain might be difficult to do at times but I believe the projecthope community has been doing that.
Though you are also right, if we win the award on steemit, it might bring up a strong fight and retailation on the hive blockchain which will in turn affect the projecthope members on hive and generally the projecthope community also on hive blockchain and this will prompt the question that which blockchain will the projecthope be choosing then.
Moreover, what is even the probability that if we don't win the award on steemit, it will help to prevent retaliation on hive blockchain??
@crypto.piotr
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I just re-read your comment @mandate
Thanks again for and sharing your view with me. I trully appreciate your time.
Stay safe, Piotr
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As per your post I see 2 issues 1) pulling out /stepping down from the contest.
I feel another way to deal with this could still win it but delegate the winning sp to the xpilar community.
This could be done by way of a open letter from the core team & or you and we can all comment and arrive at a consensus to delegate the winning sp.
I thing this should be technically possible and in terns of sentiment it should bring the 2 communities together and strengthen t he bond.
As per the issue of Hope token. It sounds a good idea but it makes me think what functional purpose would it serve ?
I can think of a couple of use cases and would like to discuss them with you on a call before putting them here.
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Thanks for dropping by and sharing your view with me @thetimetravelerz
I trully appreciate your time.
Stay safe,
Piotr
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Hello @coach.piotr
Your position is very wise and has my support taking into account that it is better to avoid all possible conflicts, also take into account that xdelpilar has supported us a lot in our growth and that we can support them as the best community in steemit.
In relation to the hope token, I certainly believe that it is a step that we should take in the future when we already have well thought out all the factors so that the creation of this token benefits us all.
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Greetings my dear @crypto.piotr.
I consider that it is not necessary to leave our participation in the contest, without any doubt we are grateful with xpliar for the great support you have given us.
But we also have a large number of users grateful with project.hope including me, the problem lies in what I observe is to remain neutral on both platforms, it is something very difficult, each manages its interests and places its rules. Project.hope has been able to take control of this situation, so the decision taken will surely be in everyone's best interest.
As for the token, it would be great, the community is growing by leaps and bounds, but if it is created in Hive engine it will surely create discomfort in steemit, hopefully in the future they will be able to fix the differences between both platforms so that we content creators are not affected.
See you later brother, God bless you and have many successes in this new year 2021.
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BIG THX for this comment @amestyj
Stay safe,
Piotr
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Hi @coach.piotr
Based on the information you provide us:
1.-Supporting Xpilar is an excellent strategy, very successful and optimal.
It should not cause any discomfort among the members of the Project Hope community.
Because you are being informed and consulted in a timely manner about the action to be taken, once the decision has been made.
However, I will support the decision you make as a member of Project Hope.
2.-About the token, I dare to comment on something that I am sure you have already considered.
To carry out a previous evaluation of all the relevant structural, operational and organizational aspects of that project, analysis of previous reference results, strategies and action plans, among others.
Finally, the consequences that Project Hope and its members would have to assume, already mentioned in the previous comments.
Again, thank you
Best regards, @janettyanez
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In fact I think that seeking a proper balance in any aspect of our lives leads to making difficult and intelligent decisions, that is why I think it is always necessary to make the best decisions in favor of the community, your proposal is the most intelligent.
Therefore, count on my absolute support to your decision, and thus support the community of Worldofxpilar actually I am sure that in this way the community will gain much more and you will continue building a proper balance in both chains, that is the path that touches us for the moment.
In relation to the token I think like other colleagues that it is an excellent idea but we have to continue consolidating this idea, nourishing ourselves with the experiences of others and waiting for the moment that best suits our situation with the two chains, time will tell us the ideal moment but if it is good to build the fundamental foundations of such a wonderful idea.
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Thanks for dropping by and sharing your view with me @rbalzan79
I trully appreciate your time.
Stay safe,
Piotr
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Best regards @crypto.piotr.
I understand that this is a difficult decision. I particularly don't like the idea of leaving the contest and asking now the support for the community of Xpilar, I don't know if it would be perceived as both communities are pact behind curtains, I think that winning a public contest should not be seen by them as a rivalry, but if you consider that winning it would make us lose their support and friendship, be the target of attacks from the hive or impose some condition that would alter the balance we have with Hive, I think these are valid reasons to leave.
I also like the creation of the token, without a doubt it would be something that could give more impulse to the project, but I don't know if it is something urgent, there are many factors to evaluate in this respect, perhaps it can be dealt with in a separate topic.
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Appreciate your feedback @emiliomoron
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Hi @crypto.piotr
Wow a great dilemma, to be or not to be.
Friend Piotr I don't think any of us who have promoted the PH community will be disappointed to give you the support to xpilar.
If what you say happens, it would be like kicking a good friend who has supported us since the beginning of our birth, and really supports us because I know that besides delegating to the community also at some point I delegate individually to some of us and that should never be forgotten,
So if we must give up the prize I agree with you, I prefer to give him the step and support xpilar, it is more he does a great job in supporting thousands of Venezuelans too.
In another line, launching HOPE token on hive-engine. it is not impossible but at this moment our community is not in the conditions for that, I explain you it is needed a good infrastructure where we should invest money, the question is everybody is willing to that?
We must also have programmers and additional we must have teams ready to take control and additional we must have a good capacity to give answer to all those who want to be involved. I understand what you say in the answer to juan is not easy to calm a community that feels attacked.
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Thanks for dropping by and sharing your view with me @lanzjoseg
I trully appreciate your time.
Stay safe,
Piotr
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Hi
I don't agree it's time to create a token for PH. I believe that PH has the potential and needs time to develop more as mentioned above that it relies on a community's power. I have seen a bunch of unsuccessful token on Hive-Steem Engine.
I didn't know the "World of Xpilar" situation for PH. If so, it is sensible to pull out in second round from the challenge and support World of Xpilar community.
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I agree with you, buddy.
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Appreciate your feedback @videoaddiction
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This is a rather complicated issue and I guess I might be late with my comment already, I have taken time to read through other brilliant comments and I think everyone has spoken well and some comments have spoken my mind already.
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Did you ever consider being more present on Discord @ajewa?
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