Challenging Wilber’s Metaphysics of Nonduality.

Hey, there Steemit truth lovers. I’ll link a talk below on the Kaballistic Youtube channel Rebel Wisdom--which is a part of what I call the intellectually dishonest web...

In the comment section I’ve argued my points of contention. 

No, not all the worlds mystics agree with nonduality. This isn't even close to true...Specifically, the Christian Gnostics among many others such as those in the Dvaita Vedanta School dispute the claims of the non-dual schools...

daviddeida3 days ago
Have never heard of Dvaita Vedenta..lol..If you mean Advaita Vedanta not agreeing with nonduality then you have no clue what you are talking about !

@daviddeida Your ignorance is not my concern David and I don’t mean that to be hostile. Vedanta has three main schools: Shankara’s Avaita; Ramanuja’s school which is more dualistic; and Madhvachara’s which is strict dualism ....The point is that DUALISM is a major school of Hindu phenomenology. It’s so DUALISTIC that the Christian missionaries were stunned by how close it was to their belief. As a Christian Gnostic this is the school I’m most sympathetic with. It’s frankly dishonest to cherry pick phenomenology and dismiss the incredible diverse experiences within the human body mind... NON-DUALITY is simply one experience among thousands (or millions) and should not be privileged unjustifiably over other experiences. Moreover, all of these are metaphysical speculations and should be framed as such other wise they are religious dogmatism which I consider Wilber to be on this issue.

Perhaps we can consider one of the nondual schools? Kabbalistic Gnostic Luciferianism.  This school is premised on the idea that the talking snake in The Garden of Eden was Sophia (it wasn't IMO/it was the Archon Lucifer who is IMO a replicant of Sophia) ) and those in this school are committed to the idea of fusing humanity with God--"ye shall become like Gods"...It's no accident that the A.I. robot Sophia was named the way she was. This group of mystics is intending to fuse human consciousness with robotics in a 'transhumanist heaven'... Now dualistic Gnostics like myself see this as delusion! The talking snake is a fiction/archon of the Demiurge and one should read Marcion on that particular issue.  The point is, though, that it's not a given that one should fuse with what appears to be God (the false light of the Demiurge) ...The Pleroma is entirely separate and distinct from this Demiurge construct we are imprisoned in although it's true there is a spark of the pleroma buried deep within humanity and the truth of existence is hidden deep within Christendom which is why the Jews, in general,  hate Christianity and wage war against it...Also, note please that I am a Docetist and Ditheist...And that these notions are very similar to Madvachara's Dvaita Vedanta although they generally have a different take on the problem of evil.

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@Samuel Champion Thanks for editing your initial reply Mr. Champion which was typically integrally dismissive although after 20-years of integral investigation I’ve come to expect this kind of behaviour --especially from what I call the ‘intellectually dishonest web’.. Okay, a genuine query and I’ll try to address it but it needs a preface. Non-Christians don’t get to define Christianity, period! A separate issue is God’s existence and I won’t address that aspect of it now.  Christian non duality isn’t even possible because any Christian claiming such a thing is a Luciferian by definition.  I self-describe as an Agnostic Gnostic which means I think the victors wrote into the Gnostic tradition and did more than demonize and dismiss it. I think it’s likely they also wrote in dead-end rabbit holes. So, no...as a Gnostic, I don’t buy into the secret knowledge idea. The truth is obvious and Marcion got part of it right: the O.T. God is a demiurge...That is a huge part of Gnosis and without that it’s not Gnosis, IMO.. I’ll only add for now that humanity are bit players or pawns within the game the archons are playing. But although our circumstance is tragic the Pleroma hasn’t totally abandoned us. The Kristo’s and Sophia still work behind the scenes to help those who love truth and wisdom...There is only so much they can do though as this place is rightfully owned by the Demiurge and the archons. The good God of the pleroma did fence the monsters in though so their pathology has been quarantined and that’s what a good God would do rather than annihilate the abortion... Not a happy story, I know, but true nevertheless. Best regards on your truth seeking...