RE: There Is No Such Thing As Free Will

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There Is No Such Thing As Free Will

in philosophy •  7 years ago 

Of course its not an argument.
I said, here is my personal experience and you said, it doesn't matter.
So, my life doesn't matter to you. Oh well. Its your choice.

I could tell you how to have the same experiences.
Many other people have. My teachers did. They taught me. I had the experience.

But, since you have free will, if you do not wish to see, you will never see.


In set theory there are two special cases, the everything set and the empty set.

In all other sets, it is a list of all the objects in it.
So, when you say chair. Or the set of chairs, then, in the same breath, you are defining a set of everything that are not chairs.

To say something exists, then you also have to describe what it is not.

God either exists or doesn't. God is everywhere and everything or God is nowhere and nothing.
And so, logically speaking, you can never prove God's existence.
However, you can experience God.

And this is the basis of free will.

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what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. simple.

we can do the same thing about flying pink elephants. just because you can't prove they can't exists it doesn't mean they could exist.

you can't prove a negative..sigh

What evidence do you have that this so called "science" exists? You can't say it's your own conscious experience, as you've already stated that there is no evidence for consciousness.

The existence of science itself is an assumption just as much as the existence of consciousness is an assumption. The difference is that your awareness of the existence of science is dependent on conscious experience, while the reverse cannot logically be true.

lol wat?

It's a simple question. Just provide evidence that science exists, without relying on anyone's conscious experience for verification.

I'm hoping you can do better than just "lol wat?"

provide evidence that you exist and I'll do the same. Otherwise this is intellectual nonsense. bullshit sophisms

So are you assuming I don't exist? If not, what evidence do you base your assumption of my existence on? Either you base it on your conscious experience of my comments, or there is no conscious experience happening within you, in which case you are merely an automaton. You have no conscious experience. There is nothing it is like to be you.

Science calls consciousness the hard problem for a reason. The consensus seems to be that consciousness does indeed exist. The evidence is in everything you sense. If you say that everything you sense is an illusion, to whom is it an illusion?

It seems you haven't thought this through very well. Dismissing it as intellectual nonsense indicates that you are attached to your views, and not open to the idea that you could be wrong.

You made the assertion. Not me. Go back and follow the conversation. it has derailed beyond imagination.

Ok. It might have derailed a bit.

So, what you said was that there is no evidence of consciousness. Does it follow then that you don't believe consciousness exists?