RE: There Is No Such Thing As Free Will

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There Is No Such Thing As Free Will

in philosophy •  7 years ago 

So you are telling me that if a flora in your gut makes you EXTREMELY depressed, you wouldn't chose to get out of bed if your house is on fire? (AKA free will)

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No need to go to extreme examples. It could definitely affect your decision to pick up the phone, eat specific foods..etc

after all, this is how medication works. This is how illnesses affect your decisions.

no such thing as free will in a world where everything is interconnected.

Okay, agree to disagree...This is is circular logic and reminds me of:
Child: hey mom where'd god come from
Mother: well he's just always been here
Child: where did the earth come from?
Mother: god made it
Child: where did god come from
Mom: i told you he's always been here
Child: well who made god
Mother: no one did he's just always been here
^^^^an actual convo i had with my conservative Christian mother as a child. Circular logic. It doesn't answer questions it just keeps returning back to the same thing

Well yeah. you have an assumption that free will exists, much like religious people believe in God. If you can't prove that your actions are independent from the stimuli of your environment then you have no evidence that free will exists.

Lmao.
If someone asked me if I wanted the red pill or the blue pill
I have the free will to chose which one i want

if someone asked you to make a choice based on the situation they have placed you (aka what happened to Neo) then your choice to make that choice was not yours. Hence why the second choice of taking one of the two pills cannot be free will.

pretty basic logic really

Ok then. Lets take the other person out of the equation. I, myself, solely happen upon a blue and green pill and for shits and giggles a purple pill too. I then freely chose which one to take. I chose to not take any of them.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

It is physically impossible to manifest yourself out of nowhere and choose between options. A prerequisite of events always exists — hence why free will is physically impossible.

I never said i was manifested out of no where. You assumed that.
There are two aspects of free will you seem to be overlooking:

  1. Introspection - you're telling me self analysis isn't free will? If we had no free will we WOULD NOT BE ABLE to engage in introspection.
  2. Deliberation - the thought process by which we mull over options. Since we are capable of carefully considering a variety of options , then why don't we have free will?

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