I don't get too wrapped up in debates about definitions, so, your stuff is your's, nobody should take it from you.
However, if you abandon it, whoever picks it up and uses it now owns it.
For instance,
If the workers of the world united and managed things without bosses or shareholders, why would they construct new factories when a perfectly good one is sitting idle because it's owners can't run it by themselves?
Would we need to wait for new delivery of trucks because all the one's that Walmart owns are idle?
Cooperation is the order of the day, how do we work together for a better world?
Hmm, how is it abandoning your factory if the employees suddenly say "we have united so it's our factory now." How is this different than "the food you were about to eat is mine now"?
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Because you can't eat a factory.
Taking the factory won't keep the 'owner' from eating.
In fact, taking his factory, and retiring him to a jet set lifestyle where he never has to pay for ANYTHING, ever again, might be the best thing that ever happened to him.
If your factory refuses to hire me, how is that not taking food out of my mouth?
Because I can go down the road to starve somewhere else?
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Stealing is stealing regardless of what kind of object you are stealing. You are initiating force to take the factory from the owner. It doesn't matter if you give the factory owner money to retire.
Why do you have a right to force me to hire you? Then I can just claim to have the right to be hired by you. This is not a peaceful way of living.
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Lol, you can't have it both ways.
I wouldn't give the factory owner money, I would give him freedom.
He can stay and manage the place, but his wages just went to zero, as did his rent, and he can have anything that he wants simply by ordering it from the web, on the blockchain, and waiting for supply to match demand.
Pull off the blinders, they seem to be making you upset.
You also seem to be supporting starving folks that don't comply with your position, so I have to ask why you need to use force to get folks to choose your option?
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Okay, you would create such abundance that the factory owner could have what ever he wanted whit out paying for it. How would you get the wealth to do that after you destroyed the economy by stealing all the factories? You need to learn Austrian Economics. If you got your way everyone would starve.
I admit I got irritated because you used the word abandoned when you meant stolen. I also get angry when you accuse me of advocating force when you are the one promoting it and I am advocating the opposite. Now I see that you have no understanding of how wealth is created and your "solutions" are fantasies.
Will you stop blaming the free market for things that are facts of nature! Humans need food, mother nature is a bitch, if no one works to get food, guess what, no food! This is not my fault or the free markets fault! The only thing I want people to comply with is don't murder, rape, rob, kidnap or commit fraud. You obviously think it's a good idea to do some of these things.
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