Are We Really Accountable for Our "Own" Actions?

scaredycatguide (73) · 8 years ago

Very interesting. I must fall in the second category. I am of the belief that nearly everything is a choice. Even if one's subconscious mind is driving it - a choice is being made and sometimes the conscious mind can even intercept that to impact/change that choice.

Alot of this has to do with forming a new habit or neural re-wiring. Make the choice to not eat the doughnut, smoke the cigarette, etc etc. each day until before you know it 30 days have passed and that choice is the auto-response.

It's that chain of choice that cannot be broke and it almost always is.

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jamesbrown (62) · 8 years ago (edited)

Thank you :)

Yes, I agree that everything is a choice at some level, but, according to my hypothesis, whether we're in the "driver's seat" or not is determined by one's level of awareness (conscious maturity). Processes that happen mostly in subconscious (unconscious) for some people may become conscious processes for people who're more "fully developed", at least, that's the theory.

Also, this response:

Alot of this has to do with forming a new habit or neural re-wiring. Make the choice to not eat the doughnut, smoke the cigarette, etc etc. each day until before you know it 30 days have passed and that choice is the auto-response.

Can only come from a moderately conscious (consciously mature) person. Most people are stuck in the "auto-pilot" state, even though they may be convinced that they are in full control. Other people may be fully aware that we aren't as in control as what we've convinced ourselves to be, but it's harder to be as aware about our own actions in a lot of cases.

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scaredycatguide (73) · 8 years ago

Very true. Like the saying goes "ignorance is bliss"

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englishtchrivy (72) · 8 years ago

it's very long but i kept scrolling cause I like this post a lot
you are so damn right about "conscious maturity"

and I totally agree that unless one reaches this point - they're stuck into the blame game - victim mentality phase - I can't stand that kind of reaction from a person- "because of you" I'm allergic to that phase.. Og Mandino once wrote - you hold the key to everything - no one and nothing can hurt you nor influence you to do something that may harm you unless you allow it or them - but ..without "conscious maturity" - it's everything else's and everybody's fault
and yes - its a product of brainwashing sort of.. which can be reconditioned.. love this post's mindset :D!

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jamesbrown (62) · 8 years ago (edited)

Would you believe that it felt like it only took me 10 minutes to type all that? Sometimes I just get into the flow and words keep coming, almost without pause, and what you see is the result -- a long, somewhat unstructured piece of writing. That happens a lot when I try to talk on something that I'm passionate about.

Yes, victim mentality is a disease of mind that essentially strips us of our inherent power to beneficially channel our energies, as opposed to being the "leaf in the wind" to circumstances and the emotions that they evoke, which so many people unwittingly submit to. That power starts to come back if/ when we can manage to remove ourselves a bit from the auto-pilot state of mind/ being, or "take a step back, deeper into awareness" as I prefer to say.

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englishtchrivy (72) · 8 years ago (edited)

wow 10 minutes .. yes, if you're in the zone it's possible :D

i can't stand the victim mentality
I easily get tried of anyone who has that
pretty childish I want to sometimes say geez grow up
but then I just succumbed into giving them my energy - better leave or ignore
let 'em talk but I ain't listening if I can't move away immediately

edit: good thing is - if they give themselves a chance to grow - they could turn it around with the right pips around them but then the later will have to bear with them - I'll pass

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jamesbrown (62) · 8 years ago

I completely feel where you're coming from. Depending on "where I'm at", I may choose to simply ignore their "plight" and be rather annoyed by their words, but, more and more often as I've aged, I choose instead to empty myself and basically meditate as I stand there listening to them. I allow my calm state of being (that I achieve through meditation) to calm them, grounding their energy as I would ground my own.

Before you know it, they've dropped the topic and they start to come up with topics of discussion that match the calmer, less judgmental state, coming down to your level (earth, if you will).

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