Not everything is mere 'opinion' or 'feeling'. Things are. Right and wrong behavior exists and can be differentiated as such.
Speaking the truth about the wrongs that are occurring around us directly, or in the world at large, is required for people to become aware of the problems that exist. If we learn about something going on, is it better to speak about it to inform others and make them aware of something they are unaware of, or to remain quiet about it?
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
- Paraphrase of an Edmund Burke saying
Learning about an injustice or wrongdoing motivates us to care about it. We don't want it to be this way, for it to exist. We can become angry that something is happening, whether it directly affects us or not. We want to talk about it, so that more people can understand, and maybe we can figure out a solution to the problem together.
Letting the problem, issue wrong, or injustice continue is not a solution. What if we were the one in a similar or different position, where we needed help? Even when it's not directly affected us now, the concept of helping others does affect us directly.
We can have empathy and compassion, and put ourselves in the position of another. If we were in their shoes, we would not like what was being done to us. It's not happening to us now, but it is happening to someone else.
We connect and identify with others to see ourselves in others. As others suffer, we suffer. We are all 'connected' in this way. We can see that others need help, and that we would want the same help if it were us. If we want to be helped in a similar situation, people need to care and want to help. If we aren't going to do anything about something, then why would anyone else?
But often we can't act on our own to stop something, to stop a wrongdoing, to bring justice about, etc. We need to associate and unite to form a counter-force to the aggressive-force that violates others. To tackle problems, two heads are better than one. The more people that become aware of something, the more potential there is do something about it through the power of numbers, and to potentially find an optimal solution.
Speaking about the negative in the world is required for us to remove the negative in the world. This is where we can start to do something. But some people want to be ignorant, and don't want to hear about the negative. Many are stuck in positivity masks, in their little bubble of perception and apathy and don't want to know what's really going on in the world or around them. As long as their life is working ok, they are happy, happy to let the world burn around them as they wear rosy colored glasses.
They are so stuck in self-centered positivity, that they don't want to hear it. They want you to keep your "opinions" to yourself. If you "feel" something is wrong, then don't bother them with it. You're being "pushy", "bothersome" or "extreme" for caring and daring to speak up about an issue or problem. As if it's just a "feeling", or "opinion". The specific use of words speaks to their state of consciousness. They just want to reject the validity of the information about what's going on.
They don't "feel" the same as you about it, i.e. they don't care, they are apathetic about it, probably because they are ignorant of it. They view it not as the reality of what is happening, but as the "opinion" of someone else that "feels" differently.
Edmund Burke once said:
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."
John Stuart Mill said similarly:
"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
Speaking about an issue is doing something, rather than doing nothing. As mentioned earlier, we can't always "do" something right away. Some issues are complex and beyond our control as singular individuals. But when awareness compounds in multiple individuals, the power to act increases and eventually "doing" something can happen.
If there are many bad men combine to do evil, then many good men need to combine to combat it and stop it. If good men don't speak, listen, converse and associate on the moral understanding of an issue, then the immoral issue will persist. Evil people persists in their actions if no good people do anything about it.
Cowardice in the face of evil is sufficient to allow the evil to fester, perpetuate, grow, and maybe come knocking at our door in the future. Ignoring and being apathetic to the wrongs being done is ignoring our connectivity to others on this planet. As others suffer, we suffer. We see ourselves in others, if we care.
If we don't care for others, then no one will care for us. We will all be alone, left to suffer at each our own turn because of polarized self-centered ignorance, apathy and cowardice. Understanding this can bring about honest selfishness and self-centered reflection of how things affect us, and motivate us to do something about it, such as speaking about it.
It's not extreme to speak, share, teach and preach about what the wrongs that are occurring. What's extreme is to ignore it, not care in apathy, and ultimately be a cowards to do anything about it. Learning about it is doing something about it. Without awareness, there is no potential for action to manifest. To solve a problem, first it needs to be known and understood.
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I need to preface my thoughts on this by stating unequivocally that by no means am I suggesting that all men and women are like how I am about to lay out. But due to our human dispositions and drives biologically, enough are that we are seeing what we have now.
During my childhood, I saw the last of the men who were publicly allowed to be men. It was still celebrated. But then, many men were still in the homes, teaching their sons how to grow to become men. One of the vast differences between men and women are how we react to our surroundings. Women have great power in this dynamic, although they pretend they do not. Women are beings, men are doings.
The major driving force that has given men the impetus to create the vast civilizations we have now was done using the sexual energy that catches most men up. It was, and is for most men in their nature to please a woman, to give her the world if you would. And men were celebrated and appreciated by women for these marvels and achievements as I said, into my childhood.
But I watched the change occurring during my childhood. Men were suddenly now considered toxic and controlling. Some would argue that men were inherently violent and rapists, the lot of them. These ideas slowly penetrated the worlds of media and education, imprinted upon the fresh minds eager to soak up what they believed was higher learning.
During my life since, men have become almost unwelcome in the very civilization that was built, maintained and protected for the most part solely by men. We are no longer welcome in our homes, no longer welcome to be more than paychecks for our children after having most of our possessions ripped from us in family courts. Often the children are turned against us.
So now we have these children being raised by single mom. Once again, I will refer you to my first sentence in this lengthy response. One of the ways women differ from men is in their connection to the social dynamic. Since time began their welfare depended on this dynamic, as mans depended on his ability to build, contribute and safeguard the areas built for family and neighbor. Women do not like rocking the boat, and often you will find women eager to find a consensus among those she likely considers her peers. The way men react is vastly different as men were more prone to voice concern or take a stand to defend the welfare of the tribe, even if it meant challenging those of stature within the tribe. Women frown upon this, and this in part makes up what is coined toxic masculinity.
So we are at what you describe now. Males being trained at school, in media and at home that their very nature is toxic. That they need to fight off their natural impulses to speak up, one doesn't rock the boat. Often the kids are drugged by the "experts" who have convinced mom it is what the child needs to shed himself of these bad tendencies. The poor boy has no real male role models to look to. None. Men are viewed as creepy if they interact with children to any degree at all, which is why you have seen such a decline in male teachers over the years. Discipline is not welcome at school. That is part of toxic masculinity.
So is it a surprise to see many younger men apathetic? They have been told their whole lives men are a necessary evil, maybe not even necessary. Many of them have watched their moms devastate multiple men financially or worse over their lives. I would submit that now that men have no social standing for being a man, is in fact crucified for it both socially and legally in many cases, it could lead to no other place.
I didn't even touch on the subject of the forced ingestion of estrogen being bombarded on males during this entire mind op taking place. That is why you saw the victory by Trump, why you see the popularity of the likes of Jordan Peterson and Stefan Molyneux. They are close to destroying the spirit of men and those not lost for good clutch to these men as a sort of safety line. Imagine not being told you are the problem as you are shook down and demanded more from daily.
Sorry for the length of the reply, I could have written a book on this really because I have taken to wondering in my cynicism if this ship can even be turned around.
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Great comment, Thank you for adding it to the post :) Appreciated :)
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In reading your dialogue, I'm reminded of the lyrics to the classic Simon & Garfunkel song, 'Sound of Silence.' 'People talking without speaking/people hearing without listening/people writing songs that voices never share/and no one dared/disturb the sound of silence/"Fools" said I, "you do not know"/ silence like a cancer grows'
And this is exactly what happens when we fail to listen and fail to speak. A wrong, grows like a tumor within society until it reaches a terminal stage when enough people become awakened to the danger.
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Thanks for sharing, I like the song but never looked at the lyrics. It fits well :)
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we must stand for what is right and good. Sadly the bar has been lowered over several generations so we learn through conditioning to accept evil or at least tolerate it. That is wrong. Also there is fear to get involved to stomp it out. No one has the guts or balls to do something. Third the sheeple out there are so dumbed down and sick on GMO food and fluoride that they are not well enough to fight back. It is all they can do to get on Facebook and like a post of a friend. If it does not personally affect them, they do nothing. And if it does affect them, they have a tolerance level. Wonderful post. May truth prevail @krnel
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Yeah, personal affect matters, impersonal wrongs that they don't see themselves affected by, don't matter. People are selfish and self-centered in a negative way, not motivated to learn about whats going on. The tolerance angle is important like you say. Vaccines are safe, no need to research or look into it... and then their child gets sick from vaccines, and all of sudden they care and are not blindly tolerant of vaccines anymore. Fools who need to learn through chaos and suffering.
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aye but what if the "wrongs that are occurring" are based of lies and misrepresented statistics that are being used to suit a narative? Kinda muddies the waters doesn't it? But hey after the count dankula incident at the weekend i fully support peoples right to free speech, just try keep it civil is all i guess.
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Like what lies? If something isn't wrong, it's not, no matter what people say it is wrong.
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One of the major problem of the generation, they seem not to care about what is happening in their environment.
There is power in number, coming together with one single agenda to correct all wrongs. We don't need to wait till it happens to us before we make adjustment. We have to start it now.
if we must defeat wrong, we must stand right
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but most people do not understand the difference between right and wrong... like watching a country being bombed and think that the government has the right ti commit mass murder
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That is sad, you are right cos my government is currently supporting mass murder and yet no arrest. All in the name, he is unaware. They play politics with human lives
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the concept of war contains all the paradoxes society must resolve to live in peace....
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Yes, stand for what's right and cast aside what is wrong :)
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A very true quote by Edmund Burke. Another true quote by Jesse Ventura is, "When the government lies, the truth becomes the traitor." And the government lies pathologically. The only way to clean out the evil is for a critical mass of the populace to awaken and push for change.
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I'm going to go ahead and play devil's advocate here.
Right and wrong are constructs formed by humanity; similar to time, which is also argued to not exist. Everything is relative and there are no universal truths or morals. Making change can have unintended butterfly effect consequences.
We are all just specs of dust in the wind.
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You are arguing about things that exist in and of themselves. Truth doesn't exist by that way of thinking. Love doesn't exist. Fear doesn't exist. Violence doesn't exist. Etc. Words are created to reference and communicate about ways to describe reality. You need to understand this, not limit the use of words to describe reality. Actions that create harm are violent. Violence exists through the expression of certain actions. Being willful and intent on hurting others is describable with the word evil.
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Fair enough, but what if you had the opportunity to end all suffering? Would you do it? What if you found out that your actions halted evolution? Would you bring it back?
What do you think about yin-yang, two-sides-to-every-coin, everything is as it should be philosophy.
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Hmmm, the more I think about it, the more I conclude that truth, love, fear, and violence are not human created constructs. love and fear are just emotions, chemicals in the brain. Violence has a pretty clear cut definition, as does truth.
Right and Wrong are based more on opinion; very strong opinions. Opinions that are usually very hard to disagree with. By your definition of evil above, abortion is evil under all circumstances. Self defense is evil. Correcting a dislocated shoulder, etc.
No pain, no gain.
Again, I'm playing devil's advocate here. I don't disagree with you I just didn't want to be a yes-man. I've taken this a bit too far though so I'm done arguing for argument's sake.
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Willful intent on hurting those who did no harm. I forgot to specify more clearly, which can happen. Harming those who did harm is not evil. Self defense might harm someone who is harming, which makes it not violence, but force against violence.
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