RE: Humans Are Not Smarter Than Other Forms Of Life, Just Different

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Humans Are Not Smarter Than Other Forms Of Life, Just Different

in philosophy •  7 years ago 

i tried to explain this to another comment. the question is simple. who is smart and more efficient. the one that has the tech build in or the one trying to copy and then apply it?

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To me the animal kingdom is built more for efficiency and humanity is more for pleasure of experience.

Why then most of humanity suffer and live in misery? Not much pleasure and good experience for most of us.

Because of greed and lack of love (Which encompass compassion, harmony, consideration, ect) Specifically from leaders. Humanity is imbalanced from consciousness to physically.

yeap

That's because humanity's great ability allow us the luxury of worrying about more than immediate survival needs. At least, today. We produce a surplus that sustains us, like squirrels. (Well, they don't produce it...)

The question is simple. Who is the apex predator, and who is not? How it got there is irrelevant. Whoever is on top is axiomatically superior. Whether they are superior on all measures, or only some, is irrelevant.

In that case, the fungi kingdom. They can control all animals through the brain and effect the entire body. They have the biggest network of comunication on Earth. They can wipe Humanity out.

Look up how mold effects humans.

Fungi is not eligible for apex predator status, by definition. It's not a predator.

True but neither is humanity. Human nature is not predatory. Humans are not build to be predators.

On what do you base this assertion?

Humans are not born with natural tools to hunt. A humans does not have the strength, speed, teeth, claws to catch and eat animals nor to fight animals. Humans can barely catch a mouse. Put human in the jungles or the plains without made weapons and see what happens. Human doesn't even have intestines to digest meat properly.

Shrooms!!! 🙌 😂😂

If ants and bees decided to stop pollinating plants, humans would go extinct in a few months. If Cyanobacteria decided to stop making oxygen we would all be fucked

Yeah, its not a question of survival of the fittest its survival of the friendliest and most symbiotic, and the human species is very good at learning and changing. So we are really good at adapting to new symbiotic relationships in nature. The only reason we have became murderers of other species is because we had no other food source at certain points of history and have not returned to our original healthy relationship with the planet ecosystem.

Why is this relevant? Every creature can be killed by destroying the food chain.

we cannot kill them because we cannot disturb their food chain. they can because they control every single part of ours.

Do you mean should not? I think we're doing a pretty good job of killing off bees =/

Apex predators aren't necessarily smart enough to not bring about their own extinction (or avoid it), they're just the physical top dog. Our tech indisputably makes us that.

Do you mean should not? I think we're doing a pretty good job of killing off bees =/

Not really. but we are killing a lot.

Apex predators aren't necessarily smart enough to not bring about their own extinction (or avoid it), they're just the physical top dog. Our tech indisputably makes us that.

We would go extinct by way more factors much faster than they will ever do. We are already on the verge of having superbugs fuck us over for good due to anti-biotic abuse.

Well, it all comes back to how you define smart then, doesn't it?

It requires a pretty high degree of intelligence to create the type of technology that would allow a species to destroy itself. But, you could argue that it isn't intelligent to make technology that could destroy your species. But, then I could argue sure it is, you just have to be smart enough to use it for good. But, then you can argue that eventually, some bad actor can get a hold of it. This can go on forever. Who's right, both?

The Einsteins, Da Vincis, etc. making those breakthroughs are very smart. They are the objectively smartest organisms we know of to ever have existed. It is a fallacy to claim that "humanity" isn't very smart, simply because a lot of of the less intelligent humans apply the work of some geniuses improperly.

It takes 200 IQ to make the nuclear bomb, but 70 IQ can launch it. Humanity has a very WIDE range of intelligence.

There really isn't much of a reason to try to judge humanity's intelligence as a whole. I see nothing to be gained from denying the objective fact that we are the most intelligent life form, both by peak and average measure, that we currently know of.

The jury can consider a different verdict if and when we annihilate ourselves.

It requires a pretty high degree of intelligence to create the type of technology that would allow a species to destroy itself.

actually stupidity.. same as overbreeding.

But, then I could argue sure it is, you just have to be smart enough to use it for good.

define good

The Einsteins, Da Vincis, etc. making those breakthroughs are very smart.

it could be anyone else. they literally where there at the right time building up from previous research. this is always how it goes. if it wasn't them discovering it, another fellow a few months later or before would. We build little by little on these things much like RNA builds our DNA.

I think each species is smart and highly efficient in their own way. They do what they do to the best of their ability. What makes humans highly inefficient is greed. Profit over progress if you really think about it; otherwise we would be in a different reality highly evolved beyond monetary and political systems and such.

True... Also animals themselves having a soul are intelligent but all animals including humans are limited by the vehicle in possession (Body).
Example: If a dog soul were to be in human body then it would have human abilities and if a human soul is in a dog body it would be have dog abilities. The human soul in a dog body would not be able to talk because the dog body is not equipped for speech.