RE: There Is No Such Thing As Free Will

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There Is No Such Thing As Free Will

in philosophy •  7 years ago 

He can call it whatever he wants. No matter what we believe our life has chains. You are bound on this planet for example when there are trillions new worlds out there. no matter how much free will you have, there is nothing you can do about it.

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The decision was not mine at all but a conglomerate of different instances.

Are you trying to explain causality? I am trying to understand if you're trying to use science to prove or disprove (a) philosophy is wrong or right? On my end I am just offering up an opposing view (I think). I am not sure there are any truths in philosophy. There are beliefs, some of which are more powerful than truth, math or science (obviously). If you watch the movie version of the Ayn Rand classic, The Fountainhead with Gary Cooper, you might appreciate the concept of free will a bit differently. Thanks for your replies @kyriacos. - I might be understanding you a little better.

watch this. it might help

I watched the entire video. I agree that the justice system is flawed. However, they didn't prove a lack of free will. Even the Whitman example was ridiculous. If he had the clarity and prescence of mind to know that something was wrong in his thought processes and then WROTE IT DOWN. Then he also had the ability to choose to seek out help. He could have gone to a doctor instead of the clock tower. I believe he had other motives that are unknown to us but wrote the letter to offer a scapegoat for his actions. But since everyone is dead we will never know.

We should always be striving to educate the next generation so that they can make better and more informed choices. We are robots BUT we are robots that have gained consciousness and self awareness. We have gained the ability to choose. This is the point of free will. If we lack the ability to choose then we are not ALIVE. We are a THING and our lives and deaths have no meaning. This type of thought always leads people like this guy trying to create the "magic" pill he described so that they can force everyone to live by what THEY have decided is the best possible version of humanity.
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I believe he had other motives that are unknown to us

this. this is how you answer your own question. Often times, if not always we don't know why we do some things. It is so random because it comes from so many different stimuli. so many influencers. This is also the reason why psychologists are so successful. They creative narratives that always fit due to the over abundance of suggestive clues.

We are a THING and our lives and deaths have no meaning.

There is no intrinsic meaning in life.

I like how you only copied the first part of that sentence.

"I believe he had other motives that are unknown to us BUT wrote the letter to offer a scapegoat for his actions."

You see I finish the sentence by explaining my thoughts on his actions. Since he so kindly removed himself from the equation we will never be able to know if maybe his mother and wife were conspiring to have him committed for having violent outbursts. Or maybe he was tested already by a friend and knew about the tumor. So his wife and mother wanted him to have a surgery but he decided to take them out with him. Since he offed himself we can not learn of his motives. All we have to go on is his note. How convenient for him :P

Of course there is an intrinsic meaning in life. We just don't know what it is...yet. A lack of knowledge or understanding does not mean it does not exist. So in the mean time we give our own meaning to our existence. One day the aliens that created us (also known as God's in the old days) will return to let us know why they created us....or they won't. Maybe we were the "arc" for their planet and people. Which means our only intrinsic meaning in life is just to exist.

HEHE This has been fun :P

One day the aliens that created us (also known as God's in the old days) will return to let us know why they created us....or they won't.

who created the aliens and god. Where will aliens or Gods seek meaning from?

:)
if your questions create more questions, don't make them.

That wasn't a question it was a statement.

I lean toward this theory. Evolution DID happen. Just not on this planet. That is why the evidence can not be found here but we can see certain indicators that say it should have happened. We are either an "arc" project to save a species that eventually ruined their planet (like we are doing to ours) or we are just an expansion colony of a species. That seeds a planet and let it find it's own path to growth ( the galactic virus of humanity). In the end it has no bearing on my ability to be a good human to my fellow humans. I don't really care about why we were put here. The focus should only be on how well we treat our fellow man.

That is always a choice made of our own free will.