RE: Raw meat eaters debate vegans?!

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Raw meat eaters debate vegans?!

in philosophy •  7 years ago 

The Inuit, by the way, were reasonably healthy on their mostly animal diet. Since the introduction of wheat, soda, pizza and other plant-based foods, their health has plummeted, with increasing diabetes, heart attacks and strokes.
Thats how I could write that if I were to write it as you put your side of the debate.

The reality is that overconsumption is the problem - not whether the stuff that is being overconsumed is plant-based or animal based.

In addition to overconsumption, there is the issue of contamination and spoilage, which is also true of both.

Ultimately, the solution is not to binge on animal fat or on plant starches, either of which is more or less unhealthy if taken to excess, and which will keep you short of vitamins,

The answer is to eat a balanced diet, not too much of anything.

We should eat, as Michael Pollan writes, "Food, Not too much, Mostly plants".

Thats it. We need to cut down on animal fats and on plant starches, we need to get enough minerals and vitamins, and we need some protein, some good fats, and some starch.

As long as you dont skew your diet too far one way or another, you'll be OK.

The big killers are overeating and imbalance.

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The Inuit have horrible health, horrible bone problems, horrible heart health, they die young.. If you wanna model your health on that.. I dunno what to say, look unbiased studies, not the ones which were cherry picked for the Paleo fad.

A lot of this was determined before all that stuff you mentioned.. Back in like.. 1970 I think? Or maybe even earlier. They aren't healthy, there's never been an unbiased study showing they were.

Since the introduction of wheat, soda, pizza and other plant-based foods, their health has plummeted

It's funny you blame plants on all of that but don't mention any animal products.. It seems like you're biased and not interested in a real discussion.

The answer is to eat a balanced diet, not too much of anything.

According to studies anything more than like 10% animal protein becomes a problem.. So.. Yeah.. It's like smoking a cig once and a while versus being a chain smoker, but it's not healthy.

You probably won't get cancer if you eat meat once and a while, but if you chain eat it, much better odds!

This is specific to ANIMAL PROTEIN, NOT PLANT PROTEIN.

If you eat meat more than like once a week, you're probably eating too much.

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"If you eat meat more than like once a week, you're probably eating too much."

You need some perspective. Bacon is one of the worst meats out there..

"As Cancer Research UK points out in an astute blog, colorectal cancer is itself relatively rare. If you eat barely any meat, there is a 5.6% risk of developing the disease over your lifetime; even if you pig out on bacon and ham every day, it only rises to about 6.6%. In other words, for every 100 people who stop eating bacon, only one will have avoided cancer. To put that in perspective, consider the figures for tobacco: for every 100 smokers who give up, 10-15 lives may be saved. The two are hardly comparable." http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20151029-are-any-foods-safe-to-eat-anymore-heres-the-truth