RE: Raw meat eaters debate vegans?!

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Raw meat eaters debate vegans?!

in philosophy •  7 years ago  (edited)

"The Inuit have horrible health, horrible bone problems, horrible heart health, they die young.."
Has that gotten better or worse since they adopted more Western foods, replacing seal blubber with vegetarian pizza and adding wheat buns to their meats?
Science says it has gotten worse. You say?

"It's funny you blame plants on all of that but don't mention any animal products.. It seems like you're biased and not interested in a real discussion"

What I'm saying is that their diet has become more vegetarian in recent years and that their health has worsened as a result.

I'm not actually arguing for a diet of seal blubber; what I'm doing is pointing out that your feelings are simplistic and reactionary and based on far too many one-sided documentaries that cherry-pick facts.

I'm prepared to say that the population needs to eat more vegetables. Are you prepared to admit that the big killer in the Western Diet is plant foods? Specifically, Wheat, Rice, Potato, corn?
Because if you arent, you are blinding yourself to reality to pretend that all plants are good and all meats are bad.

The reality is that some meats are worse than others, and some plants are worse than others, and that it is perfectly possible to have a very healthy diet eating a balanced mix of plant and animal foods.

Sure. Meats with feces on it are bad for you. So are salads with feces on it.
Meats infected with parasites are bad for you. So are plants coated with parasites (how do you think cows get the parasites?).

So quit with the fake scare stories and focus on the real issue:

Does eating 4 ounces of fresh meat from a good source kill you?

The answer is no.

Will it harm you? Sure, slightly, but then so will just about any plant you eat. Because plants are filled with toxins. (antioxidants are not really antioxidants in most cases, they are really oxidants that push your innate anti-oxidant systems into becoming stronger in response).

Neither will kill you.

But there are things that WILL kill you.

Processed meats (nitrates); Hydrogenated plant oils (animal fats dont need to be hydrogenated); White starches.

THOSE are the killers. Not a filet steak now and then, or a juicy mackeral

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  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Just one thought, you are saying that since they became more vegetarian there health has become worse. Yes those bad foods are vegetarian, but that doesn't mean the reason they are bad is because they are vegetarian foods. If a potato was laced with cyanide, you wouldn't say the potato is the problem, you would say the cyanide was. Same with pizza. It's not the vegetarian part that is wrong with it, it's the other stuff (i don't know what the other stuff is, fats and salts I guess)

Also how is rice a killer? I thought it was super healthy, I eat it often.