Discovering the Swabian Jura - Part 3, Visiting the archaeological excavation site Geissenklösterle

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Greetings Steemians!

Welcome back to my tour along the Swabian Jura.

Today we are making a side-trip into the Ach valley to visit the archeological excavation site Geissenklösterle. Without making an overstatement, the Geissenklösterle is counted among the most significant paleolithic archaeological sites in the world.

Fragments representing the oldest examples of figurine art and also the oldest known musical instruments were discovered here. Some of them dating back up to 40,000 years from now.

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The Geissenklösterle is located near Blaubeuren on the eastern hillside of the Ach valley and can be approached on an easy hiking path. The limestone rocks that harbour the cave form a half-moon shaped arena that rises around 20 m above the ground (image top right).

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Standing there, with the wall of rock covering my back, this place provided an immediate sense of shelter and protection. Whatever had approached from the valley, the paleolithic inhabitants would have spotted it early on, be it a horde of Neanderthals, an angry mammoth or a hungry saber-toothed tiger. More than understandable that our predecessors had chosen this place to settle.

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In a little alcove, I could spot some figurine art of younger origin.

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The actual excavation site is kept locked to protect it against tomb raiding . Still, I was able to sneak in a bit with my zoom lens.

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Is anyone able to explain the purpose of all these laces hanging from the top of the cave's ceiling? I will reward the most convincing explanation with 1 SBD. Please provide a link that supports your explanation. The decision about the winning contribution will solely be based on my subjectiv judgement.

While the excavation site itself may not appear spectacular, here a few links that highlight the artefacts that have been unearthed from there:

Upright cave bear
Mammoth
Flute

These objects have been created by our predecessors between 30'000 and 40'000 years before our time and mark a fundamental leap in our history. Humans had started to create objects that didn't just provide a technical advantage but resulted from an intrinsic impetus to become creative. The beginning of our culture.

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Before I end, a little extra challenge. I added one detail to this post that is a complete impossibility. Another SBD for the one who who is able to spot and report it first :).

EDIT: I was just made aware that I was wrong about the wrong fact in my post. I was convinced that the sable-tooth tiger had been extinct long before Homo sapiens had arrived in Europe. And that an encounter would have been an impossibility. Apparently, that is not the case. The age of the youngest specimen of a sable-tooth tiger has been dated being only 28'000 years old! Thanks @alexanderbraun for making me aware of my misapprehension!

Thanks for watching and enjoy your day on Steemit!

Shaka


All photos were recorded by myself with an EOS 7D / Tamron 18-270 mm in April, 2018

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Wirklich tolle Arbeit! Hätte zuerst gedacht, dass der Säbelzahntiger die Unmöglichkeit ist, aber offensichtlich passt das zeitlich wohl doch.

Bin auf die Auflösung gespannt ;)

Ups, ich war so sicher, dass die Säbelzahntiger bereits Millionen Jahre vor dem Auftauchen des Homo Sapiens ausgestorben waren, dass ich nicht mal weiter recherchiert hatte. Hätte ich mal tun sollen.

Danke für den Hinweis, werde den Post gleich editieren. Und der SBD geht an Dich !

Grüsse!

Huch, ungewollt des Rätsels Lösung gegeben - das nenne ich mal Intuition. Vielen Dank für den SBD! Schon das zweite Mal innerhalb eines Tages, dass ich was gewinne. Langsam zeichnet sich hier wohl ein Muster ab.

Leider kann ich dir bei den Markierungen nicht weiterhelfen, aber vielleicht finden sich ja ein paar Forscher, die Aufklärung bieten.

Schönen Montag noch!

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Es zeigt sich wiedermal, dass der Stand der Wissenschaft voranschreitet und auch das eigene Wissen immer wieder mal aktualisiert werden muss - insbesondere, wenn es aus den eigenen Jugendtagen stammt ;)

Vor diesem Alltagproblem stehe ich leider auch immer öfter. Das fortgeschrittene Alter (und damit häufig einhergehende Vergesslichkeit) ist da glaube ich ein großes Problem.

Statt des SBD würde ich mich übrigens auch über einen schönen Upvote meines aktuellen Posts freuen, dann musst du nicht deine Daten eingeben und groß rumüberlegen :P

Beste Grüße

e//

Ah, kam an! Vielen Dank ;)

Hello my friend @shaka how are you ?, how about your weekend ?. Wow fantastic, I looked forward to this part three of your wonderful tour of that wonderful place called Jura de Suabia. That place must have its old years and I'm surprised that allan discovered the musical instruments there, wow is something I did not know. With respect to the laces that hang from the top of the cave I think they are there because they absorb the moisture and evaporation of the water in since most of the of the year it rains and is with cold winters and mild summers. And with respect to the second challenge, I could not see what you did to the post, I think this is difficult hahaha. Excellent and beautiful photos really, this is a sample of the beautiful things that our nature gives us and gives us to observe, I really liked all the photos, it is seen that they are unique places to visit and of course with a camera in hand to Do capture all those wonders. I was also reading a bit more about this place on the internet and I am surprised that inside the caves a figurine of feminine form has been discovered, carved figurines of animals (including lions from caves, mammoths, horses and cattle), musical instruments and articles of personal adornment. Some of the figurines represent creatures that are half animal, half human. Thank you for sharing this third part with us that like the previous two, it is also perfect and beautiful. See you soon, I hope you have a nice day and an excellent start to the week.

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Happy to hear that I could prompt you to even do some research yourself. One of the most famous artefacts found in another, nearby cave was indeed a figurine of a human-lion composite being.

And I am happy to see publications as informative and important as this, as it inspires to continue researching about this wonderful place and in that case your post is also educational. I read many more things about Swabian Jura and it is really a very interesting place with many historical backgrounds, I was very surprised with the other things I read. If so I read something about the statuettes of a human being composed of a lion, it is something very interesting, like hanging things that represented half animal and half human. Thanks for these fantastic photos and for the support @shaka, if you are a bread lover, I would like to invite you to my blog to watch a publication about 2 recipes to make bread at home, it is quick and easy to make, I hope you can observe it and You like the recipes, just like I hope someday you can prepare your own bread at home. I send you a great greeting, supporting 100% from Venezuela.

Also ich vermute, die Stricke dienen der Kartographierung, bzw. um den Lageplatz von Fundstücke genau in dem abgesteckten Raster zuzuordnen.

And the winner is....@homeartpictures :)

Eigentlich wäre ja noch ein link gefragt gewesen, aber Du hast natürlich Recht, es handelt sich ein Messnetz, um die Positionen der Fundstücke präzise dokumentieren zu können.

1 SBD macht sich auf den Weg :)

ohhh das mit dem link hab ich überlesen.... aber vielen Dank!! und ist schon angekommen!!

I was looking for what's impossible
and then I scrolled down and saw the edited part
damn ...

I was just mesmerized with the pics
and the fact that some were taken on top of the mountains
we're too flat here so I love going to DE or BE just to hike or unwind
I love those shots you made btw!

Excellent and informative post. You're no doubt correct, that must have been a fantastic location for those people 40,000 year ago! That boggles the mind.

Wow they found the world oldest flute there!

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It is mind-boogling, indeed. Thanks for the link!
And what makes it so fascinating to me is that these people really were like us. With less knowledge yet evolved to the same level as we are. Teleported and raised in our times, they could have become blockchain developers.

No doubt, some of them would probably have been at Steem Fest.

BTW, along similar lines, have you ever come across Gobekli Tepe? That would made for an amazing trip, you might even be able to pay for it with the posts you could write about it. Check this out:

Gobekli Tepe is definitive proof that human civilization is FAR older than what is actively being taught in public education & universities. 7,000 Years OLDER than Stonehenge, and 50 times LARGER. Only 5% has been excavated - 90,000 square meters, larger than 12 football fields. More than 200 pillars - Gobleki Tepe Each T-shaped pillar varies between 20 to 60 tones! What technology or machinery would have been absolutely required to not only cut, carve and place these MASSIVE tones – but HOW did they lift them?!

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Okay, I’m going to say that the fact that people go “pot hunting” in the cave is impossible. I don’t think that marijuana grows there 😜😜😜 hahah unless you meant actual pots, but I decided to interpret that word else wise. 😂😂😂😂

Hahah I really like that you have these fun games in your articles! I reread your article a couple of times... and that’s my guess.

Also as for the long strings, I would say it is used to mark places where the found certain items.

Where is the next adventure going to take place? 🙃

😂😂, hahahha, now I understand why someone else brought marijuana into play. hahaha 😂
Ok, I guess it was my bad. I had to look up the english word for "Raubgräber" (someone who plunders an archeological site without permission). And the dictionary I used suggestd pot hunter. Checking it once again I think tomb raider would have been more appropriate...haha, I will correct this

Next stop will be the magical Blautopf - don't miss it :)

Ahahaha! Hilarious! 😂😂😂😂

Okay I’ll keep my eye peeled! 😳 haha see... I won’t blink until your next post, so please don’t take too long 😜

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Danke, das freut mich!

Mit den Fäden hast Du Recht, diese sind Teil eines Messnetzes um die Koordinaten der Fundstücke präzise dokumentieren zu können. @homeartpictures hatte die richtige Antwort schon etwas früher gegeben :)

I couldn't find any writing about why do they hang laces at the excavation site, like what your photos suggest. But my best guess is that, it could be meant to "signal" something, that exact position could be a mark for an important artifact underneath.
My second guess, it could be a safety signal, if let say the cave is caving in gradually, it can be observed through the height of the laces from ground. If it touches the ground that means that the cave roof is going down.

Omg, I'm so imaginative :)

I did check photos of actual excavation sites and I never saw anything like that of your photos.


I maybe be wrong or correct on my guess, but I still do enjoy reading your blog and learned something new.
Cheers!

Wieder einmal ein top Artikel von dir😊 Deine Fotos und deine Erklärungen sind 1a👍 Bin schon auf den nächsten Post gespannt😉

Vielen Dank, freut mich sehr dieses Feedback!

Tours like this, is an essential part of human life. You get to learn new things and find yourself even closer to history. I'll do one of such when I have funds. Meanwhile may God bless you for sharing your experience

Isn't it just amazing to know that Music existed as early as 40 000 years ago? I personally appreciate this information. Thank you @shaka

That's amazing, indeed!

Hallo shaka - Wieder ein bildreicher Beitrag mit Lerncharakter. Danke und viele Grüße!

Danke Dir! Der Lernerfolg war dieses Mal ganz meinerseits, dank des Hinweises von @alexanderbraun. :)

Super! Dafür bekommt er auch von mir einen Upvote :D

I was reading a bit on the internet I find it hard to find the reason for those red cords for the language, I think it is interesting everything that has been encantroado in that cave, I think I do not have the answer to your question, so I will be waiting and learn more, I find beautiful images and an interesting cave @shaka

Hi how are you I do not have the answer and I do not find the additional you add to the publication, but I have to congratulate the tour is very exciting it is as if we return to prehistory their effort and their good shots show me a wonderful place I will be attentive to the answers and so I learn something new today, thanks for such an impressive journey

In the south of Germany, specifically in the Geißenklösterle Cave located in the Jura mountains, a team found during excavation what appeared to be rudimentary wind instruments
These instruments have turned out to be the oldest musical instruments discovered so far in Europe, showing that more than 40,000 years ago the human being already knew music and developed his own musical instruments.

I do not ask any of this is just outstanding information to learn a little more @shaka

Is anyone able to explain the purpose of all these laces hanging from the top of the cave's ceiling?

Those are strings used to stop bats from wanting to nest inside. The bats sonar system (echolocation) doesn't compute the existence of these lines like our eyes do and thus the bats will go elsewhere to find a bed for the night.
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That is a very interesting hypothesis :) Thanks for joining this little quiz.

I'm not sure but I think the function of the lacces could have been to serve the functiin of protecting the exvavation site from raiders since it's very close to the metal protector. My wildest guess though

Today we are making a side-trip into the Ach valley to visit the archeological excavation site Geissenklösterle. Without making an overstatement, the Geissenklösterle is counted among the most significant paleolithic archaeological sites in the world.

The exhausting journey pays off with the beauty and uniqueness of the historic objects. Beautiful and wonderful photographs are wonderful to enjoy while tracing the story of historical objects. Very cool! Thanks @shaka already shared.

Regards!

Hello how are you? I miss you, it's an interesting place I was looking for it on the internet to answer your question since it's the first time I hear about it but I did not find anything on the internet I have no idea why those red cords there I have the doubt so I'm waiting for someone can answer, what I find interesting is also the music instruments that are there

only 28'000 years old!

Did you say only?
I'm only 26 years old, lol

haha, well, all is relative ;)

a very enjoyable trip @shaka the hanging rope is the ornamental art of the cave is possible to the land

No doubt, you must have enjoyed your tour. All the pictures look nice and beautiful. I will not like to visit the place in the dark because it will look scary.
Regards Sir.

Wow richtig schön dort! Vielleicht plane ich da meinen nächsten Tagestrip hin. Danke für den Tip!

40,000 years old. That's very old. This place must hold historical significance value. I love all your photos.
The last one is awesome.

Great photography @shaka

Very Amazing photography brother @shaka
It's look interesting and natural scenery

Wow Your All Photography best

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Your picture quality is what amazes me beyond compare. Thanks for sharing this sweet sweetness with us.

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Wow just awsome photography @shaka

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You are very enthusiastic toward history. This park is really very old and reminiscent to our predecessor.

The cave is the proof of the park age. I actually don't know why laces are hanging but I guess this must be house of our predecessor

Humans had started to create objects that didn't just provide a technical advantage but resulted from an intrinsic impetus to become creative.

That is why we said that human is more powerful than any other things in life. Human create everything even Atom Bomb to distroy Living Beings

Humans had started to create objects that didn't just provide a technical advantage but resulted from an intrinsic impetus to become creative.

That is why we said that human is more powerful than any other things in life. Human create everything even Atom Bomb to distroy Living Beings

@shaka just awsome photography you are gineus Photographer

Wow! Amazing travel photography. Historical objects are amazing. Really, you are photographing with an incredible ability. Very cool and very beautiful. Have wonderful day @shaka!

very nice and very beautiful scenery is perfect for visiting friends

great trips, and excellent photography @shaka.

I wonder also with ropes it why placed towering down and given the iron marker like that. I think it was confusing we are so that want to find the answer to ropes it.

Hello @shaka

Many thanks for not only educating the community through your travel expedition but also rewarding for reading the post itself by embedding some form of task within the post. This will endure that people read to understand and not for just reading sake.

Personally, I have no idea about what could have been responsible for those ribbons being suspended from the cave inner top.

I really appreciate you for links to factual zoological discoveries that have been made within the enclaves of the cave.

Regards,

@eurogee of @euronation community

Beautiful to see this amazing place so good thanks for sharing it :)

wonderful photography brother, very good post, I liked, amazing photo, @shaka

photography is very good my friend. and hopefully your trip please friends yes and good luck @shaka

A wonderful trip in enjoying nature, thank you so much for sharing history. with a weak economic condition I just enjoy your picture. hopefully you get upvote above 150 sbd on this post.

Creative detail friend Shaka!!

by enjoying the natural surroundings, then we will be more amazed with his creation. really beautiful view of this world. In fact, as good as any human, can never rival the magnificent Creator in creating this nature, thus let's keep nature to stay sustainable, keep it beautiful and still enjoyable. salam lestari mr. @shaka

excellent work you are doing great job awesome photography your thoughts is pretty brilliant.so,i am very proud your photography creativity.Awesome effort. I hope these photography work give out lots of success in life.
upvoted and resteem

this is interesting trip and excellent places. thanks for with sharing.

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Its amazing memories of yours by star photography.All photos are awesome especially last photo ,I just loved it.Thanks for sharing
have a nice day dear @shaka

Nice pictures and always nice to talk a stroll with you on your photo stories and see and hear about different place.just excellent photography.

a very fun job I really like photography, I am very proud of your photography creativity. incredible scenery, I really like the scenery. I hope this photography work will bring much success in life

Your picture quality is what amazes me beyond compare. Thanks for sharing this sweet sweetness with us.

photography i like all time. when anybody share her/his photography when i

also like this and love this. so thank you soo much @shaka

The strings from the top are really odd, I looked it up and the only thing I can find is growing Stalactites. If that is what they are for that is cool as hell. Anyways these are some amazing shots I definitely would like to see more of your content

Wow amazing, I am looking forward to part of your wonderful jura de Suabi journey, highly beradrenaline hanging over the rope
Back again
Beautiful scenery of beautiful results. photo the natural beauty that has brought you to get a beautiful dream every night.You are a very lucky person, because you have seen what I can not see in my life.I have never seen this scene it's amazing. Thank you guys for sharing, I hope someday to visit such a beautiful place even if it is not possible for me @shaka
you are a great bohomian, I am motivated to be like you. but my heart again sad by the country, if you do not mind to visit my bloq with a little smile
THE COUNTRY IS FULL OF SWINDLERS, WHO DO YOU TRUST WHEN EVERYONE IS LIAR

you are a great bohomian and I am sure you are also a good friend. I like to write, if you do not mind to visit my bloq about my latest post about THE COUNTRY IS FULL OF SWINDLERS!!! WHO DO YOU BELIEVE WHEN EVERYONE IS LIAR ??
life is full of honesty, lies have made people suffer
Thank @shaka

Amazing post thanks for sharing!

What wonderful pictures, your trips are great ... Greetings!

I love visiting the lands of our ancestors.. I always get such a warm, special feeling :)

Sorry to interrupt your post here, but I noticed you upvoted a post of mine - thanks for that. In case you didn't know, I am a witness for steem and am campaigning for votes. Since you have a fair sized delegation of SP I thought to ask if you would vote for me and I can see that one of your vote slots is currently pointing to @bitcoiner - which is a dead witness (see here. I would love if you would consider switching the bitcoiner vote to a vote for me.

Anyway, I wish you more great travels :)

these place are awsome and photography also

Wow! What a place!