thank you, I am not a great climber there are several times I try to climb a cliff in west java, but my guts are still lacking in climbing a cliff therefore I just try to take a photo of a climber only and my photographer problem is also being menekuninya since in 2003 and even this I am also still in the stage of adjusting because the tool I use is only a smart HP and since I do not have a camera that occupy, and also in Indonesia a good camera is very expensive and I have not been able to buy it, I just try channel my hobby in the field of photography. thank you @quantumhusky