PizzaGate is a Prime Example of Mass Stupidity

in pizzagate •  8 years ago 

In the past few days I have seen a lot of articles about pizzaGate and twitterGate. TwitterGate might be a real deal, so I won’t even go there. But this PizzaGate is just disturbing.

I have yet to find substantial evidence to prove this conspiracy

Yet, the masses of the U.S. are crying out on social media that this Pizza shop, the Clintons, and basically all the Elites of the world are connected by child trafficking... Like everyone with power has given up all basic human morals and have gone over to the dark side.

Common....  The world isn't this corrupted that all the elites would agree that child abuse is OK...

What comes apparent is the complete lack of Brain usage and massive stupidity, and what that boils down to is just pure evil. The evidence supplied is hair-thin, and most of it is far-reaching even a high schooler could determine it's basically bull-shit...

Allot of it sounds like what you would find on the Ancient Aliens series...

 

Yet, the masses have already determined guilt, and are lashing out in all possible ways.

-death threats

- destroying reputations

-destroying businesses

-destroying lives


My Simple question to all the believers:

WHAT IF YOU’RE WRONG??


Based on nearly zero evidence, the masses have destroyed multiple businesses in the DC area, and potentially destroyed the reputations of the owners and even employees of these places. The masses have also begun attacking anyone or anything that has had any connection to these people... Friends and family members are being attacked. Even bands that have performed at the pizza business in question are being relentlessly harassed.

The children of the business owners are having their pictures tossed around the internet and being exploited for these articles! 

-Isn't that considered child abuse??   It makes me sick that people are "Using" the children to make their point! 

This will, long after this whole ordeal is closed, continue to haunt these people for the rest of their lives!


My Verdict. The social masses are completely soul-less and lack the morals they are seemingly fighting about.


This whole deal reminds me of this story of heard that I will tell you. To show you how the masses destroy lives on basically no merit.


There was this guy who grew up always wanting to be a grade school teacher. He loved children and loved to teach. After spending 6years and nearly $100,000 to receive a master’s in education, he finally lands his dream job; a grade school teacher!

This teacher was well trained, well educated, and also had a family of his own. 

His style of teaching was to be strict, non-bending, and hold students accountable... 

After his 2nd week, he arrived at the school to meet a group of police officers that put him under arrest. He was charged with child abuse and molestation because many students stated that he would touch them in their private areas. It gained media attention, and people condemned him.

Fortunately for the teacher, he was never put on trial and the charges were dropped.

This was because after interviewing the children, it became apparent that it was complete lye orchestrated by a girl he had sent to detention the week prior for misbehaving. That upset girl payed the students in the class $1 each to make claims that he molested them...

Unfortunately, the media only likes to report the "bad" and never revisited his situation to clear his name.

Due to the initial reports, the school had fired him. After trying to get another teaching job, he was constantly denied because of the allegations he had of child molestation that never occurred. He also had to move away because of the constant death threats he received.

His wife left him due to the severe embarrassment, and he ended up committing suicide...

Over a girl who paid people 1 dollar to lye... and how the media hyped it up, but never laid it to rest.


That is the power of media.

I hope you don't believe everything found on the internet. 


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Based on zero evidence? Are you fucking high?! Either you really don't know what your talking about, or you spreading bullshit mainstream propaganda. Truly disgusting article to write. There is massive amounts of evidence, hence why the reddit sub Pizzagate was official banned today!! Wake the fuck up and get your head out of your ass. This is the world we live in; and comparing this to a series of ancient aliens is truly disgusting.

Trully disgusting? Massive ammounts of circumstantial evidence that people like you are throwing around as Facts is complete bullshit. People making death threats without even knowing the truth. People harrassing people who have simply ate a fucking pizza there. That shit is garbage!
Untill I see some facts! They come out with pictures or bodies, or a confession, or children admidting this shit happened but no, where is it?
Massive underground trolls like you that have nothing better to do that torment people is what I find disgusting! Posting pictures of children relentlessly around the internet is what I would call child abuse and down right endangerment! That shit is disgusting, weather or not there are any facts that get presented.
People go too far with there conspiriousy theories and this one shows some massive fucked up people coming out of the woodwork.
Trolls are attacking anyone with any tiny little bit of connection to these people!
Show me some massive ammounts of evidence! Is that all you have is your redditt sub got banned? WTF, that doesn't mean anything! Have you read some of this shit on redditt lately before it got banned? Giving out peoples phone numbers, addresses, emails, and any other public profile so the rest of the world can come down on anyone they want to point a finger at! No fucking duh they would ban that!
Like I said, when I see some concrete evidence my thoughts will change, until then... Your just another piece of shit troll that has most likely gone too far!

What are you talking about? The wikileaks e mails clearly show that these people are using pedo language while in communication. I'm not going to sit here and type out all the evidence that points to a child sex traffic ring. You can sit there and go through the evidence your self.
So In order to convince you, we need to catch them raping a child in the act? You suffer from severe cognitive dissonance. When you post pictures of people wearing tin foil hats, it just shows how out of touch with reality you are. Using the old "conspiracy theory" label on this forum won't work! Anyways, clearly you are a moron and I won't be wasting anymore time with this thread.

I have wasted about 2-3000 words on this fool and he is still talking nonsense. I would advise that you let him enjoy his safe space and spend your time more productively.

Agreed. You have done a fine job explaining to this fool what is taking place. We can leave it at that.

Then you are a very bad american and a poor citizen. If you have sound evidences of such crimes (in "massive amounts", you said) , you MUST run to the police and file a report, bringing all the evidences you collected with you. A citizen which witnesses a crime is not supposed to tell it on the internet, is supposed to file a report to the closer police station. Btw, I remember you that, to know about a crime and not reporting is considered backing the crime, and a crime itself.

I was in this boat but recent events made me re consider. If you analyze what happened with Jimmy Saville scandal you can see that the elites are actually pretty corrupt and tend to cover up the wrongdoings of their friends, they being involved in human trafficking and paedophilia is not so far fetched.

There have been several "incidents" that show that horrible thing happens and the authorities look the other way. A few years ago a woman in France reported being held as an labour and sexual slave, when the police went to place where she was being holded, they found some princess from Saudi Arabia, this woman was allowed to leave the country without facing any legal consequences and everything was kept quiet, so this things happens. Search "Meshael Alayban" and see another case.

On my part I will keep an open mind!

I think you sound like an idiot. Sorry. First you say there is no evidence, but there are boatloads. Then you go on to tell your own story-as an example-and you...wait for it...wait for it...supply no evidence to support your "story". You also misspelled "lie" at the end of your essay. Overall grade: D-/D+.

Lol. Very true. I'm surprised you only noticed one spelling mistake though!

Some of the evidence is questionable. I have also read a ton of related articles, but there also are some very big question marks and some of it makes sense. I remain on the fence about this. But you also need to not under estimate the evil of this world... Child trafficking does happen and it is more prominant than you would think, someone has to be involved and I bet they would try their damnest to not get exposed.
That story you provided is sad and your right about the media screwing up and then not going back to fix the mess. Reality sucks sometimes.

obviously I know it happens, I just highly doubt all these elites are soo messed up and work together to do some of the most immoral and in-human things to children. Its gross. Sure some people are fucked up, but this is just too much to believe

"It can't be true, my feelings are too hurt by it" do you know how stupid you sound?

"Hurt feelings?" not once did I say that.
Do you have any idea how fucking stupid you sound just by making that comment?

"this is just too much to believe" you said it all right there.

I understand your reaction, but you seem to have missed some news. Stuff like that DID ALREADY happen. Check out the connection of Clement Freud (yes, the grandson, deeply involved in the mindblowing cover up in the UK) to Maddy McCann and how he seems to have been friends with the Podestas.

The good thing of this thread is that, in te replies, I collected a huge list of people to mute. :)

You're going to have a lot more when this is over. I don't think steemit is the place for you! hah

Secondly, the most logical thing for Alefantis to have done is to call the media and invite them to tour Comet Ping Pong, Little Red Fox and that 3rd restaurant next door. End of story! Why didn't he??

Honestly, this Is one of the things that has bothered me.. Why wouldn't they just allow the media to come in and snoop around.
My views might change on this whole controversy, but I have seen many examples where the masses get it wrong while just completely ruining lives, and then nobody gives a shit that they just basically destroyed someone.

The most LEGAL thing people having evidence of this MUST do is to go to the police and file a report, showing them the evidence they have. So, if ANYONE has evidence of such a crime happening, they MUST report to the police, or they are backing a crime. Shouting on the internet is not the proper way to report crimes.

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

Please explain the extremely disturbing photos of babies and lewd comments the Comet people have posted on Instagram then. This is the best video on the subject:


We may not have proof yet but it's laughable to call this normal. And now that Molly discovered 9,000 accounts exchanging child porn on Twitter, it becomes even more important people stop denying this

Thank you for this video, I have not seen it yet.
I will return with a comment as soon as i'm done

"My Verdict. The social masses are completely soul-less and lack the morals they are seemingly fighting about." Exactly 100% agree and sick of it.

Thank for agreeing. I am also sick of this coming out all the time. Now they target hillary on pedophile child trafficking. Common, its going alittle far

'Like everyone with power has given up all basic human morals and have gone over to the dark side.'

One would think that you would need to sacrifice your morals in order to intentionally impoverish the people you are sworn to serve, and to support the mass murder of innocent men, women and children overseas.

'What comes apparent is the complete lack of Brain usage and massive stupidity, and what that boils down to is just pure evil.'

The only thing burning more calories than the collective brain power of those who are investigating this issue, is the collective brain power of those attempting to cover it up and convince everyone that it is "fake news."
Here is an excellent example of someone with 'no brain power' exposing the pseudo-journalistic integrity of the mainstream media.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1428011
It is evident from your post and from your comment on my article earlier, that you have already decided you're not going to read it. I implore you to change your mind for you may just learn a little something about objectivity--something which your article could have benefited greatly from.

'My Verdict. The social masses are completely soul-less and lack the morals they are seemingly fighting about.'

Your verdict--that you somehow managed to arrive at after only a few sentences--is that hundreds of thousands of people have no souls, because they do not adhere to your opinion?
You claim that we who are actively looking into this scandal are lacking in morals, which I find incredibly interesting and embarrassingly hypocritical.
It is morality that is the driving force for most who are investigating pizzagate. Certainly for me. If there is even the slightest chance that this many children are being abused, and if it is in any way within my power to help, then I will keep investigating this until I have found the definitive truth of the matter.
Your morality however, is questionable at best. You are condemning those who are attempting to do good because you are unwilling to accept that their viewpoint could potentially be correct. Your perspective of the world--the one where your government is there to help you and not to rob you--is under siege, and rather than inviting a little cognitive dissonance into your mind so that you might construct a more accurate understanding of the world you live in, you are deciding to lash out at others in defense of your own biased paradigm. This is beyond immoral, because you are placing the importance of your personal comfort level over the potential physical and psychological suffering of many children.

I will admit that some people have gone too far with the attacking of the alleged perpetrators on social media. You know this because you shared your ignorance on my post about this very issue earlier. But, just because some people are getting a tad overzealous, does not mean that you can categorize everyone who hasn't instantly dismissed pizzagate as bullshit as one body of brainless, soulless idiots.

This is far from over, and there is a lot of investigating still to be done. It's clear at this point that the authorities are not going to do it for us, because they are subservient to the suspects that need to be investigated. We are not subservient to them though, so we will do the work ourselves if need be.

I respectfully request that you keep your willful ignorance to yourself and stop giving people a reason to dismiss this as lies just because you wish that it was. The more people that are behind this, then the easier it will be to bring those to justice should--as I suspect--this scandal turn out to be legitimate.

PS: You really ought to go through this post again and correct the plethora of spelling mistakes and grammatical errors. Some may be even less inclined than I to assign any credence to an author of so many typos. If you cannot pay enough attention to detail to notice the huge red lines under the words you're typing, then how can one have any confidence in your ability to research facts at any level of competence?

It is fine to investigate, that has to be done and I applaud the people trying to get to the bottom of it. The issue I am having is the massive amounts of attacking done to people who might not even be involved. Death threats, posting children all over to get there point across... Taking anything, and I mean anything that can be twisted into fitting the crime.
"should--as I suspect--this scandal turn out to be legitimate."
Even you possess a doubt, so I respectfully request that you don't present the evidence you contain as facts until you actually know them as facts!
Because What if it isn't legitimate??? Then what? You thousands of people going to make personal appologies? Doubtful..
"well we were wrong.... sorry?"
While countless lives have now been ruined.

P.S. Steemit doesn't have that little red line under spelling and grammer errors. and I'm not pretending to have credentials, unlike the massive crowd of people presenting their "information" as facts. But hell, make some death threats and ruin lives on a theory. That is where the world is at.

  1. I already pointed out that I have doubts, though they are very slim. I never presented you with any evidence about pizzagate, only an article which challenges the veracity of the mainstream media.
  2. I have no reason to apologise. It was I who made a post requesting that people stop the abuse until it is proven definitively.
  3. Regardless of whether the red lines show up for you or not, some of those mistakes are so obvious that you should not need an alert to bring them to your attention if you had proof read your writing before posting. But, I bet you didn't. Just as I bet you didn't bother to pay much attention to any of the evidence into pizzagate or you would not be holding this stance of yours so pigheadedly.

Years ago, those who dared to seek the truth were greatly outnumbered by those who take everything they're told by the MSM as gospel. That time has changed. Now it is only those that are terrified of accepting the truth that still cling to this idea that conspiracy theories are always bullshit.

Go to the pizzagate category on Steemit and have a look at how well denial and ignorance is being received. Then go and look at how those who are suspicious of it are being received. You are, for the first time in history, the minority. I strongly urge you to snap out of your fantasy world and open your mind to viewpoints that are different from your own, or you will find yourself cold and alone on the wrong side of society. Good day.

Fuck that was awesome. Nope we are not the minority anymore, especially on a platform like steemit! A lot of people coming here don't realize what they are in for; those who suffer from severe cognitive dissonance will have a rude awakening, or can leave.

Exposing evil satanic pedophile serial killers... satan's little helpers.
Possessed beast worshipers!!!
Their souls are damned to roast in hell for all eternity.
Shame on them!!!

I just like truth, and I hate scum. Which, you'd think would be normal but... maybe not.

I just read your article
https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@son-of-satire/we-need-to-be-more-objective-about-pizzagate-it-could-be-a-set-up-designed-to-discredit-the-alternative-media

You are all over the place! Jesus christ man, take a fucking stance and stick with it. I don't even think you read my article...

"As I said, I am not far from 100% sure this is real, but I would not bet mine, nor your life on it just yet. We need to be much more objective and halt any abuse or attacks on these people until we find that irrefutable piece of evidence that no one will be able to deny."

Really? isn't that basically what i'm trying to point out!
And You want to talk about credentials?

These people have been in control for over 50 years, there is no such thing as an irrefutable piece of evidence they control the science they control the schools, they control every idea you have ever been exposed to. Once you know you know, before that no amount of evidence can convince you. There is a MOUNTAIN of "circumstantial" evidence but who invented the term circumstantial evidence? Who invented false memory syndrome? You would assume it's not an accused pedophile right?

Im guessing this is you from this comment you made.

lame.

"Once you know you know, before that no amount of evidence can convince you" See you on the other side, brother.

I have responded so much to your bullshit that I'm going to be hasty with this one and then I am done with you and your ignorance.

-I have always maintained the same position and if you could read objectively you would know this.
-No, you are not saying the same thing at all. If you really think that you are then you need help.

Yes, I read your article about as well as one could read a poorly written piece of work that is littered with typos. You are the one who cannot pick a stance. In your article you assert that you are right and that the masses are soulless idiots who are wrong about pizzagate. In your comments, someone challenged you stating the evidence is overwhelming, to whit you responded saying that you just have difficulty believing that people could be that evil.

As I stated in my very first comment to you, you are trying very hard to protect your own current understanding of the world and you're willing to put others down in order to do it. That is why I have gone from trying to help and inform you, to thinking you're an arsehole.

If you want to deny reality, fair enough. Go and find your little safe place where you can protect yourself from the scary thoughts about how much suffering there is in the world. DO NOT however, try to convince others to dismiss something that should be getting looked into, simply because you don't want to know what they will find.

Do not expect another response from me for I have had enough of your conversation.

Then you are a very bad american and a poor citizen. If you have sound evidences of such crimes , you MUST run to the police and file a report, bringing all the evidences you collected with you. A citizen which witnesses a crime is not supposed to tell it on the internet, is supposed to file a report to the closer police station. Btw, I remember you that, to know about a crime and not reporting is considered backing the crime, and a crime itself. Could you show the report you (I'm sure) already filed to the police station? Just a picture is enough.

Did you mean to send this to me??
I stated that I am NOT American.

I think eSteem is a bit messy about threads, since I was talking with the guy which claims he has sound evidence of pizzagate. If you have sound evidence of that crimes, you must report to the police in almost all the planet, unless this is legal somewhere (which I don't believe). If you aren't the guy having evidence of the pizzagate, then I was not sending the message to you. I suspect eSteem has lot of room for improvements....

You've clearly not looked into this at all if you think further investigation is unwarranted... the 25,0000 redditors amassed in 2 weeks surely thought there was more to this story... calling people stupid and using lame memes to make a point only makes you look ignorant and biased, or perhaps even protecting child abusers. Child trafficking and ritualistic abuse are worldwide problem, and no, bringing attention to it is not what is hurting children. Pick your battles wisely.

Still, if you have any evidence of the pedophiles and lalalala happening, you should file this to the police immediately. If not, you are backing a crime.

British gov pedophilia was an conspiracy too, not anymore https://www.rt.com/uk/170672-uk-politicians-pedophile-ring/