Fate (original poetry)

clayboyn (70) in poetry • 7 years ago (edited)

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robyneggs (66) · 7 years ago

This is such a great poem! I just love your style @clayboyn! May i have your permission to feature this poem in the top picks for #onehumanbasket this week?

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clayboyn (70) · 7 years ago

For sure, I've been juggling my tags around since I've been posting on busy.org a lot lately. I still got love for the #onehumanbasket tag too. I need to prioritize my tagging...

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jinmi17 (46) · 7 years ago

Nicely written! Is the belief in fate and destiny a nullification of free will?

Personally, I'm always at odds with the absolutes of these two spectrums. Viewing life from a perspective of either can be rationalized but I don't think they can co-exist?

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clayboyn (70) · 7 years ago

It all depends on your perspective of freewill. Personally I view freewill as the ability to accept things or deny them. I've already accepted I have no control over the universe or others, so it's not hard for me to see the order, but when I focus too much on something that I wish was otherwise everything starts looking chaotic.

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jinmi17 (46) · 7 years ago

I'm talking about within the context of your own actions.

Take something as trivial as buying Steem for example. Should I buy it? If I bought it was it fated as such? If I chose not to, was I fated for that or was it a choice I made?

On a macro scale, sure I can see an ebb and flow or a method to the madness. I can't bring myself to see it as a unchangeable route however.

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clayboyn (70) · 7 years ago

What if you are trying to exhaust any means necessary to buy STEEM and you even have the money. What if there is no way for you to buy it? Say your bank randomly locks your account or you get hacked randomly. There are things that are outside of our control that stop us from doing some things we are sure we want more than anything. At some point it's clear that if the universe wants to jump in and say no, it's going to do so whether we like it or not. Maybe you weren't supposed to because you had something else to do with that money or maybe it's not even about you and that hacker was that stole the money was using it to feed some starving kid somewhere. If I focus on the why or how things I assume I have control over don't work out it's just clear to me that in the grand scheme of things we don't really control much of anything outside how we choose to accept or deny what is happening. So I try to just observe and not stress shit. It's all perspective though. :)

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jinmi17 (46) · 7 years ago

Indeed, it is all perspective. This one is interesting to me and I mean no offense, only discussion.

If it's all predestined, and we have little or no control over the grand scheme(s), what's the purpose of waking in the morning? Why keep on? Do we grind these lives out only to supply fruit to the greater scheme of the universe? I apologize for the fatalist angle, these are simply my own inner thoughts on it.

Conversely, the chaos could be more than we can comprehend. If everything has free will but has an ultimate end, then it's possible for the same scenario as above.

I offer another conclusion. It may sound comical or a fantasy and to that, it's also ripped from an X-men movie! =D

Perhaps humans and their choices are like small pebbles in a river. We can slightly alter the water and it's direction, but ultimately, it's going to continue to flow to its destination.

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clayboyn (70) · 7 years ago

I would say your X-Men analogy is pretty much spot on with how I feel. We can move around in the river, we can swim against it, we can swim with it and accelerate the process, or we can just flow and enjoy the ride. :)

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teukurahmatpolem (19) · 7 years ago

I like any poet-themed theme, if you can make it with a better masterpiece so that those who read understand the intent of the contents of the poem, do not forget to make friends, follow me, maybe we can share opinions

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sizuka (53) · 7 years ago

wow that's good news man!!

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vardi (40) · 7 years ago

Amazing

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navjot-singh (39) · 7 years ago

Beautifully written

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lovingvanadium (37) · 7 years ago

The held conservative courses the pedestrian rival. I had no idea that poetry could do so well on here ... Will follow you buddy. Hope you follow me as well so that we can stay connected :-) See you around @lovingvanadium

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robyneggs (66) · 7 years ago

I am a fatalist, through and through...

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clayboyn (70) · 7 years ago

I know them feels. :)

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shello (62) · 7 years ago

This is a great poem! What I took away from it is that not everything can be known, so why worry about it? Everything has a way of working itself out. Although this was a short writing, it was filled with a lot of insight, thank you for sharing this!