We Turn the Tables on This Cop, Asking HIM for Three Forms of ID as He Hassles Us for Selling Ammo on the Street

in policeinteraction •  8 years ago 

We were on a street corner in Cali, minding our own business, providing value to passers-by, as we attempted to sell .22 ammunition, when we were approached by a regular guy wearing a Halloween costume, with a shiny badge and a gun. He drove up in this special-looking car with these bright blue and red lights, got out and asked us to identify ourselves. Strange sort of interaction between two human beings, dontcha think?


I know, I know, people recognize these costume-wearing individuals as "cops" or "law enforcement." But to me they are just individuals who dress funny. They have no more "authority or power" than you or I. So, I refuse to see them the way we've been indoctrinated to see them.

My reason for this post is to ask you a question: Should individuals just roll over and do whatever a "police officer" says just because it is he who says it and because he claims to be there with "the authority of the state?" Could it be that arming yourself with the knowledge of the politician's own silly "laws" and standing up to those who fail to obey their own masters is FAR more helpful for mankind than just caving in to the "law enforcer's" arbitrary, freedom-snatching commands?

"Officer SIIPOLA "with two I's" is a persistent fellow who tries all four tricks he knows to get us to unlawfully identify ourselves, but to no avail. I recognize a few of my errors in how I acted toward this person who claims to be an "officer" and will do better in the future."

Here's the video: Very interesting! Enjoy:

Here are some facts about giving an "officer" your I.D.

You’ve probably seen old movies where the protagonist is approached by a Nazi or Soviet guard and ordered to “show your papers.” We know that’s a tell-tale sign of a police state. So if "police" ever ask you to show ID during your travels, it’s natural to feel intimidated and violated.

In a free society, individuals who are minding their own business are NOT obligated to “show their papers” to police. In fact, in the United States there’s NO LAW requiring citizens to carry identification of any kind.

So when can police ask for ID?


Unfortunately, carrying an ID is generally required if you’re driving a vehicle or a passenger on a commercial airline. These requirements have been upheld on the slippery premise that individuals who prefer not to carry ID can choose not to drive or fly. Sheesh! Statists and their silly rules!

From here, ID laws only get more complicated. In Hibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, the Supreme Court upheld state laws requiring citizens to reveal their identity when officers have reasonable suspicion to believe criminal activity may be taking place. Commonly known as “stop-and-identify” statutes, these laws permit police to arrest criminal suspects who refuse to identify themselves.


As of 2013, 24 states had stop-and-identify laws. Regardless of your state’s law, keep in mind that police can never compel you to identify yourself without reasonable suspicion to believe you’re involved in "illegal" activity.

But how can you tell if an officer asking you to identify yourself has reasonable suspicion? Remember, police need reasonable suspicion to detain you. So one way to tell if they have reasonable suspicion is to determine if you’re free to go. You can do this by saying “Excuse me officer. Are you detaining me, or am I free to go?” If the officer says you’re free to go, leave immediately and don’t answer any more questions.


If you’re detained, you’ll have to decide if withholding your identity is worth the possibility of arrest or a prolonged detention. In cases of mistaken identity, revealing who you are might help to resolve the situation quickly. On the other hand, if you’re on parole in California, for example, revealing your identity could lead to a legal search. Knowing your state’s laws can help you make the best choice.

Sad that we have to do this, but the ones with the power make the rules. NOT following them could lead to your premature departure from this planet. Live peacefully, stand your ground and don't take no crap from men and women in costumes! Peace!


I'm Brian, the owner and creator of the YouTube Channel HighImpactFlix and the HighImpactFlix Facebook page. My aim is to create useful, relevant, exciting and engaging content that will inform and IMPACT those who take the time to view it. Bottom line: I strive to make it worth your while to check out my videos!


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I'm lucky as I live in Edinburgh, Scotland. The police here are fairly passive and I've only had one stop and search in my 34 years here. The question you raise as to whether you do as they say or resist is an interesting one. I think it depends on what the officer is asking of you for a start. As much as I think we should always resist, you may be in a rush or needing to go somewhere important. The risk you run is the officer not taking kindly to your being a free human being and antagonizing the situation and detaining you, even unlawfully. On the other hand, exercising your rights as a human should be drilled into the mind controlled police at every turn if possible. They are people too, just heavily conditioned. Plant a seed (in a friendly manner) in their brains and hopefully it will sprout one day.

Great post, cheers from Bonny Scotland :)

By the way (some shameless self promotion incoming), as a fellow anarchist, I thought you might like some of my posts. Latest is here and it's about people who tell you that if you don't vote, you can't complain.

Keep up the good work! Have a good day :) Peace