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Hey guys, I'm a Libertarian. I love Free Speech.
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calling for violence or defeating nazis is the wrong strategy. The only time violence could be justified is when using violence to protect others against violence.
Defeating the nazis was right because it was necessary to protect the yews and many other people. Attacking and wanting to 'defeat' the present day right is not making anything better. Rather use your energy trying to convince them and certainly also protect minorities that fear to be subject to violence.
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Defeating entails either """convincing""" them or getting rid of their power structure, and considering the US is ran by racist theocrats, we have a lot of work to do.I used to be a centrist goofball libertarian when I was 14, but after talking to people more it's very obvious that we dont live in a meritocracy and that pretending like white supremacy and genocide is an academic debate that's up in the air causes collateral damage that is irreversible and you need to understand that for every nazi you defend, there are dozens of people suffering for it.
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"free speech" is a funny thing :)
this reminds me:
in our country anyone can come to the main square and say that our president is a moron.
well, in our country also anyone can come out in open and say that your president is moron. :D
or sort of: "yes, you may be have a freedom of speech to call someone an idiot - but then be ready to get punched in the face or at least to be called an idiot too, in turn" LOL
"Freedom of speech" is a gimmick ...
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Exactly. Consequences exist.
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This argument is poop and you should feel bad because it means you are basically promoting roaming death squads that cant be reasoned with. :D
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No one is talking about roaming death squads, it's an analogy, pal.
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So I am right. You concede the argument by side stepping. I am glad we agree on this then. :D
edit : Also you don't think the Nazis were a roaming death squad.... Ok....
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I mean current day, the death squads are not roaming nowadays
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Agreed, there are none yet. But death squads can appear on either the left or the right if we do not debate and engage ideas with reasonable discourse. Censorship is the absolute worst thing possible because it leads us slowly into roaming death squad territory.
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I am not trying to defend any nazis. I am just promoting a different approach to dealing with nazis. Shouting at them is not working, demonstrating against them neither. And fighting them in the streets is the worst idea of all.
Instead try to set a positive example, talk to them and try to convince them. Because all of the hatred is doing one thing; making sure that we are not challenging the ruling structures because we are too busy fighting.
You claim it is 'their' power structure. But this is wrong. Most of the nazis I know have no power and believe that the left is in controll of the power. They think they are just victims fighting for their rights. Same as the left.
So everyone ends up fighting each other thinking that way they could gain power and realise their vision.
Please be aware that I am fully support protecting people against right or left wing violence and I speak out against any forms of violence.
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Thinking you can convince people away from wanting to kill minorities is intellectually naive, how many nazis have you converted?
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I hope it is not, cause what should we do otherwise? When we cannot talk to them anymore then the only option left is using violence. But then we are not really much better than them. And when violence has become normal there are a few people that benefit from this. Right and left-wing leaders emerge that claim to be the saviours of the people when all they do is fill their own pockets and secure their power by violence and suppression.
Also most of the nazis (at least the ones I know) do not want to kill minorities. These radical ones exist, but they are exceptions. They normal nazi has a shitty life and is often not very smart. They know that something is wrong with the world but cant figure out what. So they remember back when life was still better and find immigration as the probable cause, or women's rights, or whatever you want. So they start to oppose that. Then when they openly state their concerns they are lectured that they should not think that way and that they are stupid. Because nobody likes being lectured they show a defensive reaction and believe that the left is involved in a conspiracy together with the immigrants to destroy murica. They want to stop this and find likeminded people in some dark corners excluded form mainstream society. Now they are the resistance.
It may sound crazy, but from talking to nazis this is more or less what they believe. And they think they are the good guys just trying to save the ordinary American wanting to live a boring traditional life. In the end very few people think of themselves that they are evil. Everyone believes to be a force for the good in the world, but in reality most people are not. But I believe that by talking maybe we cannot convince them to get gay friends, but we probably can convince them that violence is bad and that global wars need to be stopped. And if we only do that, the world may become a much better place.
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