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in politics •  6 years ago  (edited)

It doesn't matter if it's Trump, Hillary or whoever. That's exactly what I said. Active supporters of racists are racist by extension, unless they also actively voice their concern against such practices.

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Had to read it twice, because that sounds logical. But I still don't think Trump is a racist, everybody gets called a racist for nothing nowadays. I'm probably a racist for not wanting to judge people by their race, but if do judge people by their race, then I'm a racist, either way its racial discrimination. So when people call someone a racist, I need more proof than a feeling. They don't call Obama racist for the same things Trump is saying, so I can't believe none of that.

If you don't think trump is racist, you didn't even try searching for it. Here, I did this for you so you'll stop yepping about racists not being racists.

https://hellogiggles.com/news/trump-racist-compliment-latino-border-patrol-agent/

Now, at the very least, do not make any affirmations about trump not being racist if you haven't even tried to do due dilligence.

They don't call Obama racist

I don't know who "they" are, I don't care either, and you know who else doesn't give a damn? Logic.

I find a lot of irony in this story. I took the comment to be a not very good joke about this guy's nervousness but everyone will interpret it their own way I guess. To me racism is judging someone (usually in a negative light) based on their race. I have yet to see Trump do this though I suppose that the accusation here is that Trump assumes Hispanics generally can't speak English. That's reading a lot into it if you ask me (and nobody did) and I find it hard to believe that Trump would honestly think that given his experience.

Anyway, the ironic part is that various media outlets (including the one linked above) ASSUMED this border patrol agent was Hispanic. Isn't that a bit...well...racist by the standards being used here? I don't know what this guy's background is but his last name... Anzaldua... is of Italian origin.

I would point out that the idea that this wasn't racist isn't unique to me:

Hector Garza, a colleague of Mr. Anzaldua’s who is also the vice president of the National Border Patrol Council, which endorsed Mr. Trump during the 2016 election, said he was proud of his friend and did not see anything wrong with the president’s remark about his language skills. Mr. Garza said Mr. Anzaldua had a stellar record — including the “Top Dog” award for narcotics apprehensions.

“I didn’t think anything of it,” said Mr. Garza, who said he had met with Mr. Trump numerous times and who, like Mr. Anzaldua, is Hispanic. “What ends up happening is that President Trump feels very comfortable with our agents, and our agents support President Trump, and I think this was him speaking comfortably with one of our agents. I didn’t see anything wrong with it.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/20/us/politics/trump-ice-immigration.html

Granted, Mr. Garcia may not have wanted to say anything bad about the President and ultimately his boss but he could have declined to comment.

PSA: I'm not a Trump supporter and didn't vote for him. I just agree with the top level comment that the charge of racism is thrown around at the drop of a hat these days.

Couldn't click the link, don't trust it. I had to agree to something about personal information. And no, I didn't try to research it or anything, that is why I say it is illogical and go from there. If this type of action is racist for these people, so the reasons they , by they I mean the people who call Trump racist, the reasons they call Trump racist must apply to other people, but they don't say someone is racist or not by his or her actions, but by who that person is. So for me, not calling balck or latino Trump supporters not racist for thinking exacly the same as Trump, but Trump is racist, I see an inconsistency. He might be racist, he might be not. But I can't not accept an inconsistent statement.

And I really don't trust sites who use my personal data and stuff, that is why I'm on Steemit.

But either way, I prefer an explanation why two people can have the same thought or the same goal, but one is racist and the other one isn't. Not why Trump is racist or not for doing something even Tariq Nasheed, black supremacist agrees upon.

So for me, not calling balck or latino Trump supporters not racist for thinking exacly the same as Trump, but Trump is racist, I see an inconsistency

These black/latino supporters are stupid. This should be obvious, as black/latinos supporting a racist is a stupid thing to do. Isn't it obvious? Sounds obvious to me.


But either way, I prefer an explanation why two people can have the same thought or the same goal

I already gave you one. Hello? Are we really in the same conversation? I'm starting to think one of us is hallucinating or not paying attention.

This is one of my previous comments, explaining when an active supporter is a racist and when an active supporter is not a racist.

It doesn't matter if it's Trump, Hillary or whoever. That's exactly what I said. Active supporters of racists are racist by extension, unless they also actively voice their concern against such practices.

There, do you see the logical difference between them? Dunno if I should rely on logic anymore if you simply entirely forget or ignore a previous comment.

For saying that certain people don't think as you do are stupid is quite harsh. I don't really like calling people stupid unless they are obviously trying to hurt someone.

But anyway, so I assume that you think every American president is racist, that means you're consistent, that is good. Because they all said the same thing that Trump said, and also Latinos are racist because they also say the same things Trump said. Good, presidents and Latinos are racist, I do not agree, but hey, you think what you think.

I don't really like calling people stupid unless they are obviously trying to hurt someone.

That would be a stupid reason to call them stupid. If that's the only reason you'd call someone stupid, that's stupid too. You might disagree - but your lack of logic says you're not the brightest cookie, so I'll just ignore it.

No, I don't like calling people stupid because it is disrespectful and diminishing a persons worth. Specially when you are calling someone stupid or, how you wrote it, not the brightest cookie, in which you show that everyone who doesn't think like you do is less worth than you. So calling me stupid for not thinking how you think is illogical, and I generally don't like using adhominems for the same reason I don't call people stupid. I don't get mad or think that people are wrong because they don't think as I do, I might be the one who is wrong, who knows. But I see you're that type of person who thinks that someone who doesn't think the way they think is less worth.

And btw, being logical is my best quality. If you find some inconsistency in my reasoning, I will give you all my Steem currencies, whatever I have.

If you find some inconsistency in my reasoning

I did that throughout the whole conversation, but you'll tell me I didn't because, well, your "best quality" isn't of high quality in itself.

"Trump is not a racist" -> proof that trump was racist -> topic changes into "other presidents"

hooray

OMG, I did opened, and that is EXACTLY my argument haha. Yes, that is what I mean yes haha.

OMG, you did open, and looking beyond your argument, did you see what I was showing you? Him being racist? Oh, you completely ignored the reason you opened that, didn't you. How surprising.

Yes yes, you proven me that those are racist statements. But you don't get my argument. Let me give you an example by going into the extreme. Just an example, not truth.

Donald Trump is trying to literally eliminate Black, Jewish and Hispanics in America, he is setting camps to kill them one by one. He already killed a million by now. So we all agree that he is racist and hates those races. I think we could agree there. Now now we open a history book, and see what the president before him did. Oh, he did the same, also trying to eliminate those races, he also killed a lot of them, but he is okay, he is not racist no. Oh, and look at the president before him, also the same, but he isn't racist also. It is only Trump who is racist.

On the extreme, if you don't think that the other presidents are not racist for those actions, well, those actions aren't racist, therefore, you can not call Trump racist for those actions.

I ALREADY FUCKING SAID THIS TWO TIMES YOU SHITHEAD

HERE COMES THE THIRD

WHOEVER HAS DONE RACIST ACTS IS A RACIST. TRUMP IS NOT THE ONLY RACIST. IF HILLARY DID RACIST SHIT, SHE IS RACIST. IF WHOEVER ELSE DID RACIST SHIT, THEY'RE RACIST TOO.

THIS IS SO FUCKING SIMPLE, BUT YOU'RE TOO RETARDED TO UNDERSTAND!

I'M JUST KIDDING! I'm fully aware you're simply following your orders as a good little doggy you are.

  • Bored and dumb business partners: "Go around and politely talk about haters not really being haters and trying to confuse the masses so we get to be shitheads and suck people's lives and moneys because we're lazy bored old fucks who have better to do since we're all too stupid to realize the world is only boring because we made it like that."

  • You and all of your cute little stupid bitchy friends who can't think of anything else either: "wag tail, bark"

This works because there are enough loud doggies and the masses are only as dumb or dumber than you guys.

I don't see why you write like that, because I already implied that you think that every president and every Latino is racist, I just don't agree with you, but again, you think what you think.

And don't get which orders you are implying, I'm not even American so I'm not part of any American group or a fan of any American thing. So you're just putting me in a box by your choice. I don't follow anyone orders, I don't trust people, and that is why I don't just believe Trump is racist just because I am told to believe it or otherwise I'm a bad person.

I'm not even American so I'm not part of any American group or a fan of any American thing

I never said you were american. Being american has nothing to do with this. I said you are a little doggy, bitching around your money. Again, that was supposed to be obvius as I left no room for interpretation - but again, you're not the brightest cookie in the jar.

I don't trust people, and that is why I don't just believe Trump is racist

You're a shithead protecting your profitable interests. Fuck you.