New Study Proves WTC7 Was Taken Down, Not Burned Down by Fire

krnel (78) in politics • 5 years ago (edited)

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amico (66) · 5 years ago

"serious researchers at Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth"

A serious researcher will look at the evidences and find an explanation that matches the observed evidence.

Starting at 1:58:24 it's really simple to understand that AE911 isn't a movement for the Truth but for covering it!

Cheers!

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mes (67) · 5 years ago

Good to see someone post about Dr. Judy Wood and her game-changing investigation into 9/11!

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amico (66) · 5 years ago

My pleasure, mate!

I find it unbelievable how many people prefer to believe any sort of authority rather than looking at things as they are and thinking with their own heads... isn't it?

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mes (67) · 5 years ago

Yuuup. But 9/11 is just a monumental example of every aspect of reality; from going along with what "experts" or "studies" or "politicians" or "professers" or "religious leaders" or even parents say to even killing people in the name of "war"... All this are merely a symptom of not taking conscious ownership of one's thoughts, words, and actions. Thus making the truth of 9/11 widespread requires that we upgrade also every aspect of our individual lives.

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wakeupworldnews (58) · 5 years ago

Common sense told anyone who saw the video footage it was taken down.... Good to see people still on top of this going through proper channels with studies to expose the truth!

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krnel (78) · 5 years ago

Yes, the video itself speaks volumes once you go look at any other fire in the world and what happens vs. controlled demolition...

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smasssh (66) · 5 years ago

Am still waiting for a certain mr. Trump his name is I believe, who before being elected said that if he would be elected president, he would reveal the truth about 911.
(have been searching for videos on youtube in which he spoke the words, be they're all gone: banned and or deleted), I just wonder why???

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daznez (65) · 5 years ago

never said it, which shows you should search for direct sources of quotes before you start believing information is true. though of course nowadays we have deepfakes, so..

@wakeupworldnews - spot on with the clue's in the videos right in front of your eyes, and it's great that people are trying to expose the truth, but along with the narrative, the focus should be:

'well if muslim nutjobs didn't fly planes into towers then we don't need all of this damn intrusive security and surveillance everywhere do we?'

ps - all these mass shootings - has anyone actually seen any dead bodies, serious damage, or 'bloodbath' ? what they tell you is not what they show you - apologies if i'm teaching the truly awake to suck eggs. peace :-)

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mepatriot (69) · 5 years ago

Hear! Hear!

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smasssh (66) · 5 years ago

I get your point, don't worry.
But I've seen and heard what he said back then on live television, so it is without any doubt he has said he would reveal the truth about 911, IF being elected.
Right after that there were also videos on youtube of that part that has been on live tv. Back then I even posted one of those videos on my facebookaccount. And I was talking about those videos that are all banned and deleted.
If I now go back on Facebook and look back, the video I posted is not there anymore. Just a message saying: 'video not available'.

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daznez (65) · 5 years ago

oh yes, tons of great videos have been removed from youtube - the first nuke truth video is gone, showing the hoax of nuclear weapons in about 8 minutes,

however, if djt said he would reveal 9-11 there would be an archive of it. he went on alex jones, he said a whole load of other great-sounding stuff, but not that, and of course, turned out to be just another war-surveillance-debt puppet of the bankers.

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nickgrujic (54) · 5 years ago

this is all old news and its still surprising how many people think the terrorists did it lol
terrorists did do this but they were our govt and banking industry along with the talmudist zionists
this kind of stuff cant be repeated enough since there is way to many dumb people that believe the official story
cheers

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mitty (54) · 5 years ago

The terrorists did 9/11. Everyone knows that. What most refuse to accept is that those terrorists are the CIA, the MI5, the Israeli Mossad, the Saudi Arabians and the Qataris.

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abusereports (72) · 5 years ago

Your obsession with @berniesanders is pathetic. Get a life.

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enjoywithtroy (68) · 5 years ago

Imagine that we all knew it was a controlled demolition let the government refuses to tell the truth. Thanks @krnel will resteem

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krnel (78) · 5 years ago

You just look at it, a buidling doesn't free fall because of structural weakness in a few outside places from some debris of another building. Buildings aren't made flimsy like that.

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mitty (54) · 5 years ago

The government refuses to tell the truth because if Americans knew the truth, Israel would disappear overnight.

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donald.porter (65) · 5 years ago

True story.

I was attending NYIT and BMCC at the time. Not too far from WTC.

Not only was I relatively there, I got a job at Embassy Suites Hotel a few months later and watched as tower 7 was the first to be rebuilt— long before plans were competed for the new WTC.

Tower 7 was no accident, I have (old) eye witness accounts of my own. There’s a lot more to that building than most know. All conspiracies aside, that was clearly a demolition.

Cheers

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darth-azrael (67) · 5 years ago

You're true story cites no evidence. Just because a collapse looks similar to how a demolition looks doesn't make it a demolition.

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mitty (54) · 5 years ago (edited)

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akumagai (53) · 5 years ago (edited)

I call bs on this theory...

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lordbutterfly (70) · 5 years ago

Haha. I loved this conspiracy when i was a kid. Sometimes i still watch these things just to feel that fuzzy feeling of mystery and drama.

Most of it is nonsense though. Fun... But nonsense. Its not fires that did in the building. Its a multitude of factors.
But its a fun video nonetheless.

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daznez (65) · 5 years ago

'a buidling doesn't free fall because of structural weakness in a few outside places from some debris of another building. Buildings aren't made flimsy like that.'

you have to have the nous of a small child to believe the official story, or anything the government/ media tell you.

this is a building being demolished, and because of it your world has become a surveillance police war state:

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mitty (54) · 5 years ago

It's incredible how 3 buildings fall in a perfect vertical free fall, on the same day. And these brainwashed idiots keep believing the official bulshit story. It's like their brains are made of mashed potatoes.

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daznez (65) · 5 years ago

normally the smarter someone is the easier they are to fool, because they have trusted authority all of their lives, and generally have more of a stake in society - the conequences of their whole career's being a sham is too much for most people to contemplate.

normally every one has the same reaction when you tell them they're not on a spinning ball flying through outer space, just like their own senses tell them they're not.
simple brainwashing.

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lordbutterfly (70) · 5 years ago

It did fall because of significant structural damage and fires. You can even see on the video that the left side collapses before the right side.
Building 7 conspiracy has been debunked so many times. But have your fun guys. :)

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daznez (65) · 5 years ago

no wonder you are so myopic you are completely lost inside this blockchain.

'like a thief in the night.'

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mepatriot (69) · 5 years ago

It's a weakness in the under-40 crowd...not sure if it's estrogen, vaccines, or what. Their brains are formed differently...to be susceptible to extreme cognitive dissonance and official propaganda.

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mitty (54) · 5 years ago

These people are not myopic nor stupid. They know perfectly well the buildings were demolished but they refuse to admit it because that would mean admitting that Israel is an enemy of the USA.

They rather live a lie than to admit their "friends" fucked them in the ass.

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darth-azrael (67) · 5 years ago (edited)

I haven't seen any evidence that supports the theory of intentional demolition. There were signs of structural degradation throughout the day (bulges, creaks and groans, partial internal collapses) before the building finally collapsed completely. Fire can't melt steel but impacting debris can cause damage and fire can weaken structural integrity especially when burning out of control on almost every floor for many hours. One critical column finally collapses and the rest can't make up for that and fail. I mean if they were going to intentionally demolish the building, wouldn't they go out of the way to NOT make it look intentional? Wouldn't it be rather difficult to keep such a conspiracy a secret given the number of people that would have to know about an intentional demolition? I went to download the report you linked and they want a name and e-mail address. Give me a break.

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If anyone once to see this report without having to provide a name and e-mail address, it can be downloaded here: http://ine.uaf.edu/wtc7

This study was funded by Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and completed by a 3 man team at University of Alaska Fairbanks. This study doesn't prove much except that the way they modeled is different than the way other organizations have modeled. And it comes down to a matter of inches. E.g. NIST says one particular girder would have been displaced 6 inches while this study says it would have only been displaced 1 inch. This study is currently only a draft and it has just been opened up to public comment. It will be interesting to see what results from that and peer review (assuming there is some). To be taken seriously it's going to need it. Otherwise it's just three guys and their model.

What none of the studies say or seem to take into account (certainly not this one) is what damage was done to girders and/or columns as a result of impacting debris. Maybe it was none but then again maybe it wasn't.

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mitty (54) · 5 years ago

3 buildings collapsed in a perfect vertical trajectory on the exact same day. It's obvious they were rigged for demolition.

If they had fell due to damage, they would not fall in such a perfect vertical way.

Open your eyes. The Israelis and the Saudis are the main terrorists of 9/11 and you know it. You just need to get your cognitive dissonance out of the way and admit what you already know.

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darth-azrael (67) · 5 years ago

Certainly Saudis were involved. That's not even in dispute and never really was.

How do you expect massive buildings such as these to collapse once structural failure occurs? As soon as one major structural component fails then another will fail as more stress is put on it, especially with such widespread damage. The failure isn't simultaneous but it's close enough not to matter that much. It's not as if the rest of the structure is going to hold together while the rest of the building simply tips over (which is what some of the simulated videos from this study shows). To me that seems far more absurd.

There's no cognitive dissonance on my end, I'm just waiting for some hard evidence. To suggest that demolition charges were placed in 3 massive buildings without anybody knowing about it and without anybody finding evidence (other than the gut feel and "common sense" of a lot of armchair quarterbacks as far as how they think buildings should collapse) is far more absurd than the buildings collapsing the way they did.

They say 3 people can keep a secret if 2 of them are dead. Here there must be hundreds or thousands of people who would have to know about this. Yet none are talking.

The difference between you and I is that I could be convinced with evidence. Witnesses who have first hand knowledge of demolition charges, evidence that shows explosive charges were used, etc. You could never be convinced that demolition didn't happen no matter what evidence is provided (not that it is easy to prove a negative anyway). I'm not saying it's impossible that the buildings were intentionally demolished, just that I have no reason to believe that at this time. I'll be interested in the results of a peer review of this study and if it holds up what if any other explanations are theorized about possible causes of near simultaneous failure of supports.

I would also point out that in controlled demolitions, collapse starts at the bottom. In at least WTC 1 and WTC 2, collapse started near the top. You also typically see visible explosions before the collapse. If you wanted to fake a building collapse, having terrorists plant bombs seems a whole lot more straightforward than hijacking airliners and flying them into the buildings.

Besides, why would terrorists, whoever they are, be concerned with a "controlled" demolition? Why not make the buildings fall over and do more damage?

I don't think I'm the one with cognitive dissonance.

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mitty (54) · 5 years ago

Well, the theory you believe in defies the main laws of physics. That scenario is impossible, you don't have any evidence to prove it and you still believe in it.

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darth-azrael (67) · 5 years ago (edited)

What theory did I put forth that defies the laws of physics? That the failure of major structural components puts stress on other structural components? Is there evidence of planted explosive charges that I was not aware of? Where is it? I'll gladly consider hard evidence. I just don't accept non-expert opinions about how buildings should fall when subjected to these conditions as proof, that's all.

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nickgrujic (54) · 5 years ago

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mitty (54) · 5 years ago

For 50 years these people believed that a magic bullet killed JFK. They will believe whatever the government tells them.

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abusereports (72) · 5 years ago

Your obsession with @berniesanders is pathetic. Get a life.

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daznez (65) · 5 years ago

you're watching, but you're not seeing.

it's almost like you want to believe the government isn't lying and at perpetual war which makes trillions for the pentagon and defence contractors whose boards the politicians will join when they leave government.

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darth-azrael (67) · 5 years ago

Why don't you re-examine your assumptions about how buildings should collapse under the conditions these were subject to? It's seems like an awfully small minority of architects and engineers are agreeing with you.

The Pentagon never had problems with perpetual war before this happened so that doesn't really seem like a realistic motive here. You don't need an excuse to do what you are already making excuses successfully to do. A conspiracy on this level is far more elaborate than what is necessary so why go to all the risk and trouble?

Sure, there are evil people in the world but enough of them on the boards of defense contractors to conspire to murder this many men, women and children? Anything is possible but this hardly seems like the most likely scenario.

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daznez (65) · 5 years ago

nobody died, the buildings were empty. your naivete seems to hold no bounds.

'why would the government..?'

there weren't even any planes:

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darth-azrael (67) · 5 years ago

Now you're just trolling.

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daznez (65) · 5 years ago

no. deadly serious. what do you see in the image? is that possible? that is from broadcast pictures from the day in question. what is it you need explaining?

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darth-azrael (67) · 5 years ago (edited)

I've seen the impact from multiple camera angles. The wing was there. Just because poor video quality and a possible modified image makes it look otherwise in this one frame doesn't change that. Nevermind all the eyewitnesses. Why do you take one very questionable piece of evidence and exclude all the other available evidence? What's your explanation? The special effects artist forgot the wing? No, this can only be trolling. I'll stop feeding the troll now.

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daznez (65) · 5 years ago

again, deadly serious. you have no idea of the depths of illusion you are under - and the smarter you are the deeper you are likely to have bought it and not be able to see it.

obviously, it's not just one frame, and this is one of hundreds of problems with the official story.

of course one should also consider the consequences of that day, both for human beings in other countries (who did nothing) and on american citizens themselves (who also did nothing.)

if you still trust your government at this stage there may be no hope for you.

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mepatriot (69) · 5 years ago

Of course, much of the same holds true for the two main towers.

At some point, quite possibly, studies like this will get the officials to admit what Silverstein already said...that "because of the great loss of life, we (they) decided to 'pull it'."

Then everyone will go back to sleep....

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mitty (54) · 5 years ago

Most Americans refuse to accept the truth because they know that truth is that the Terrorists of 9/11 are their "friends" from Israel.

Americans prefer to believe a bunch of lies than to admit the Israelis are worse criminals than the Islamic Radicals they fear so much. It's Cognitive Dissonance at its best.

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anti-sophist (56) · 5 years ago

I thought this was about as controversial a topic as to where exactly at the north pole DOES Santa Claus live?

2 planes brought down 3 buildings at freefall speed... Who the hell still believes this nonsense?

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mitty (54) · 5 years ago (edited)

Who the hell still believes this nonsense?

The American People. Most of them believe in this crap. But then again, they also believed that a magic bullet killed JFK.

One day they'll realise that the ones who killed JFK are the same people who committed the 9/11: the Israelis, the Zionists, the Satanists, the Nazis, the Communist Bolsheviks. Call them what you will. They use several names and keep on changing them.

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amberyooper (69) · 5 years ago (edited)

The first time I saw the building fall, it looked to me like a demolition. It shows the classic implosion into it's self of a demolition.
I have to wonder what secrets they were trying to hide and make disappear, information that was collected in some office complex in that building?
There was no other reason for the building to fall down, it was not heavily damaged by debris from the towers.

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mitty (54) · 5 years ago

The building was going to collapse because it was programmed to go down. It was also supposed to be hit by a third airplane but the stupid Zionists couldn't get the third holographic projector to work.

Gladly for them, the American people is so brainwashed they believe any crap the government says.

Proof, who needs proof when you have such honest people telling what you should believe?

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