Capitalism was an economic model that allowed people to have and acquire wealth without conquest, raping, and pillaging. Capitalism is only detrimental to those that seek a handout. Communism is the opposite, as it offers free everything to everybody. But it is not free because liberty is lost in the process. Yes, china has adopted capitalism as an economic model, but only in the business sense. Politically China is as communist as they come. The difference in China is that they seek a profit through use of capitalist ideology, but the profit is for the communist government, not for the individual. The fact that China recognizes the advantages of capitalism, only proves the effectiveness of capitalism. Capitalism has been responsible for the highest standard of living ever known to man. Communism kills, see the 20th century and close to 100 million murdered. Capitalism allows for personal growth through incentive and competition, as this is how innovation prospers.
RE: What happened to the fear of communism (red scare)?
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Well said. Keep in mind it seems you both are on the same side, more or less.
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The fact that capitalism works in communist China proves that they are two faces of the same coin, and the way that "Capitalist Corporations" make profit off of the slave labor in China proves that point even further. It proves that in order for the type of capitalism you espouse to properly function, an entire segment of humanity must suffer as slave labor. The capitalists who are exploiting Chinese slave labor would do the same to you in a heart beat if they could.
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So if you are not a communist or a capitalist, which ideology or economic model are you in favor of? I'm very curious by your comments!
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I think of myself as a constitutionalist in an original interpretation of the document. America wasn't always a, "muh free market principles at any and all costs". That came after central banksters stole this nation from it's people turning America into what it amounts to basically, a Wallmart where everything is for sale, and any third worlder can become a citizen. The founders made it clear who they intended this nation to be for, and it wasn't who will quickly become the majority. In fact we gave Mexico back after taking Mexico City because we didn't want their population to be a part of this nation.
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Interesting perspective! Are you as extreme as an ethno-statist then?
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Of course. America's founders set this nation up as an explicitly White nation.
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I guess I must've missed that part of the original founders document. This ethno-state stuff is kinda hard for me to swallow but I see many more coming forward in support of this idea (which will never happen IMO). Anywhere specifically that you interpret an "all white nation" in the constitution?
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Every single White nation on this planet is facing genetic annihilation. When White people become completely disenfranchised, it won't matter what nation it is happens in either, white genocide is happening. It is real. When finalized, nations victimized by these rats will be doomed to utter destruction.
There is a reason why Sub Saharan Africans never invented the wheel. The end of the White Race will be the end of humanity. Maybe, the Rapture is a real thing?
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The Naturalization Act of 1790 made it clear that only, "White persons of good character" could become citizens of the US. I don't really see how you didn't know that, but it doesn't really surprise me. The same people who drafted the Constitution passed legislation which only permitted Whites to become US citizens, and that law was signed into law by George Washington.
If the founders saw what has happened to the nation they created, they would take up arms again in the 2nd revolutionary war.
It is clear as day who the founders intended this nation to be for, and prior to Hart - Cellar in 1965, the US was 80%, or more White. The people who passed that travesty promised Americans at the time that the demographics in the US would not change. Well, here we are.
Believe me when I say that as whites become a minority, White Identity Politics will become a very powerful political force. We are already about 10% of the population, and my generation is shaping up to be the most right leaning in a hundred years.
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I have noticed a lot of kids (12-18), that are my nephews age, do seem to reject the leftist nanny state. Glad to see that, but not much in the way of an ethno-state. A lot of his friends are non-whites, as you so pointed out, given our now representative demographics. Just don't know if there that far on the right is all.
I did wiki the Naturalization Act of 1790, and sure as shit it does say exactly what you stated. Just don't see that being a point of emphasis for some sort of revolution politically w/all the hysterical "everyone is a racist," culture nowadays. Perhaps in the future. But no where in the near.
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Wow, you are about as ignorant as they come. You don't understand how markets function, you are a typical commie, bleeding heart liberal that acts solely on emotion with little or no recognition of reality, or facts. Go home snowflake! You give academia a bad name, but it is not all your fault because you have been brainwashed. Go find yourself a safe space, a curl up into a fetal position, I'm sure that your enablers will cuddle you and tell you it is ok. The real world doesn't work that way, deal with it. Suck it up buttercup, if you our capitalist system here, go to a legit communist country and then come back and tell me that communism and capitalism are the same.
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Wow, you are about as ignorant as they come. You don't understand how markets function, you are a typical commie, bleeding heart liberal that acts solely on emotion with little or no recognition of reality, or facts. Go home snowflake! You give academia a bad name, but it is not all your fault because you have been brainwashed. Go find yourself a safe space, a curl up into a fetal position, I'm sure that your enablers will cuddle you and tell you it is ok. The real world doesn't work that way, deal with it. Suck it up buttercup, if you our capitalist system here, go to a legit communist country and then come back and tell me that communism and capitalism are the same.
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What a precious little snowflake you are. You are the one who is so triggered. that you even posted your copy and paste dribble twice. Everything I stated is factual, and you have no argument to refute it, so you have to try and insult. That is what LOLbertardians do when they get called out as the intellectual midgets they are. I hate communist much more than you BTW. I just have a broader worldview, and don't see everything as cookie cutter shapes. that is what literal retards do.
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A broader world view? Given your arguments, that expanded world view probably includes killing babies in the name of women's rights, and believing that a dude can lop off his unit and call himself a girl. A broader world view that recognizes fantasyland as the world we live in, is not a good thing. Your opinions are not facts, and when you grow up and join the rest of us here in reality, you will learn that this is true. Projection is a cool trick, but you libs aren't very good at it. You just responded by calling me out for the same things I referenced in my analysis of your own behavior. That university education hasn't sharpened that "broad" worldview that you tout. Acting on 100% emotion will get you in trouble, if you don't run it through your brain first. Compassion is fine, but it must not be blind compassion void of common sense. I am done with you now so go and read some Karl Marx errrr or maybe some Dr. Seuss. Go and ask your babysitter for some hot chocolate and maybe they will give you a cute puppy to hold to calm your nerves. I am not triggered I respond with rationale thought, you respond with your so called "compassion". Go home rookie!
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You assume a lot. Probably, way more than is healthy. You must be a boomer because no one other than one could be this clownish. Again, you cannot refute the facts so you go on about nonsense. The simple fact of the matter is that the Capitalist system we have right now is completely corrupted, and as I’ve stated, previously, Communism and Capitalism are two hands washing eachother. I’m not a fan of either, but I am a strong proponent of euntrepeniership. Not huge companies running over my people to turn a profit. You however want to go on about faggotry, and trannies? Who is the one projecting here, guy? LMFAO. You should, probably, keep that gutter mentality to yourself. It makes you come off as an Ass Clown.
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I'm not a boomer, so maybe you assume too much. I'm going to quote Ronal Reagan,
"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so."
A Time for Choosing, Address on behalf of Senator Barry Goldwater,
Rendezvous with Destiny, October 27, 1964
I'm sure you can see the relevance here to your assumption that everything you say is fact.
Also I will not refute your opinions, because they are your views, wrong but they are yours. Also I am not going to try my and refute your statements because I'm not changing your mind, and you are not changing mine. I explained in my first few posts here why your views were wrong but because you won't recognize my response, you say that there was no refuting. Go off and play now.
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It is 100% a FACT that Chinese slave labor is propping up this so called capitalism you think is so great. Sorry, but there are more important things in life than buying cheap trinkets at the lowest possible price. Just how is American Capitalism so great when we are 21 TRILLION in debt? It clearly is not working, and only a matter of time until it fails completely.
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Capitalism deals with the private sector and private businesses. When Uncle Sam gets involved that's when the corruption starts to rear its ugly head. Capitalism does not promote the things that you are talking about. You are speaking of capitalism as it is inherently evil, it is not. Capitalism is not responsible for slave labor. The Chinese government is communist so they are likely to operate while committing the atrocities that we have seen from other communist regimes. You also fail to recognize the communism, while dealing in economics, is a political system. Capitalism is an economic model, not a political one. It is important to understand the difference. Capitalism gets taken advantage of, when the federal government starts picking winners and losers and dipping their fingers into the private sector. Subsidies to growers of corn, and oil companies are a good example of this. That is choosing one industry over another. When that happens, it poisons the pot. Your debt reference is also wrong, because the federal debt exists because the government spends too much. That has nothing to do with private business or capitalism. Even if you you dive into the realm of of taxes, the federal government isn't short on money or revenue, they just spend spend spend us into oblivion while blowing money on things that do not benefit America or its people, i.e. Foreign aid. We should not be goving any money to foreign countries when we have the debt that we do. I appreciate that you are will to come here and defend your position. You are seeing the problems that we face as a society, but you are placing blame on the wrong doorstep. You need a little more understanding of the market and cause/effect that is relevant to seeing trends and spotting problems. I take back my snowflake comment. You have spunk and drive, and even though you do not agree with me on issues, you are willing to engage me on the battlefield of ideas. This is how we better our country, and society, by engaging on another in fierce debate and forcing ourselves to defend our position. You blame capitalism, but it is not the private sector that is holding us back, it is the federal government and its meddling.
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Just for the record. This does not prove that.
That is simply one possibility.
It could also be that China is only Communist in some points but they have several large city states where they essentially allow free market capitalism to reign supreme and they are not communist at all in those locations. This is what my findings have been.
So it is more like a Communist nation propping up Communism by funding it from several city states that do not practice Communism at all.
These are typically Hong Kong, Shanghai, and Singapore.
It is easy to say something proves something else, but often there are more possibilities than we see and simply picking the one that we currently believe as the truth is not always the best course.
In studying Hong Kong and the other city states I do not really see much in the way of Communism there. People very much do own private property in those locations. They also own the means to production. It is not public, therefore it is not Communism.
Yet that wealth funnels into the bulk of China where Communism is dominant and it seems to suck off of that labor force much like a tick, or mosquito.
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Communism and socialism end up being government sanctioned monopolies from what I can see. This is why the RICHEST capitalists in the U.S. like Jeff Bezos (richest man in the world currently) advocate socialism, and marxism. All it will do is give them more government sanctioned power. It makes the process for the worst offenders of what Pro-Marxists are deluded about have the easiest and most total control possible.
They like to talk about monopolies and slave labor, etc. Yet their process simple puts in a government sanctioned monopoly and country wide slave labor.
Easy to do when you remove the possibility of competition.
The other thing that fuels it all is Envy. "Why does that person have X and I don't? That's not fair." Though it'll often be hidden in virtue signalling where they will change it to "Why do some people have X, and other people in our society don't?"
Answer: Reality works that way. There is no artificial bubble of everything being equal. You being one inch to the left of me has the vast potential of changing what happens. What if a bullet goes one inch to the left of me? You are wounded or killed and I am not. What happens if that bullet goes one to the right of you? I am wounded or killed.
It's called reality.
Expecting hand outs is not. Some people are going to get lucky. Other people are just going to work harder. Other people will be lazy. Other people will be unlucky.
The Marxist ideology is foolish. I actually look like Karl Marx a bit right now... so if I take a black and white photo will that make me suddenly have authority?
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Jeff Bezos owns about 100 billion. Jacob Rotchild owns well over 500 trillion (including all the media that keeps saying that is not true)
So Jeff Bezos is not the richest man in the world, he is just pocket change!
And yes I'm starting to wonder if you are Karl Marx...
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Mayer Amschel Rothschild, the founder of the Rothschild family had a red six pointed star that hung in front of his office. No where in the bible is the the so called Star of David mentioned. There is however the star of Moloch, which is what the Israeli Flag has on it. The Jewish world banks have funded both sides of almost every conflict since the Rothschilds came to power, and both WWI and WWII where both a direct result of the Rothschilds determination to create a Jewish Ethnostate in Israel. Just take a look at the Balfour Declaration written in part by Walter Rothschild if you don't believe me.
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Don't worry I fully believe you!
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You are right. Bezos is just the wealthiest that we have the actual numbers for. The Rothschilds and some other families dwarf him if everything is known.
My beard isn't that out of hand yet. I may have to do something so I can make a photo like that of myself before I shave next time.
The pro-Marxist, Communist people seem to see such images as some kind of sign of authority. :)
They like to show off this guy too...
Peter Kropotkin
There are some more modern ones that I've seen similar images of.
:)
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Pinko beardie commies...
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