It appears that former FBI Director and now Special Counsel to investigate Trump/Russia collusion in the 2016 elections, has stumbled onto information that incriminates heavyweights in the Democratic party.
The story is very convoluted. After spending the better part of the past year chasing down dead-end after dead-end, trying to pin incriminating material on Donald Trump, he is now stuck with damning evidence against his own allies, the Democrats.
The indictments that were handed down against Paul Manafort and Rick Gates concerning money laundering, tax evasion and lack of registering as agents of a foreign state, don't lead back to Trump, rather the info brings the Podesta Brothers into the spotlight.
The Podesta Group was founded by Tony and John Podesta. John Podesta has done work off and on for Hillary Clinton for years, most recently as her campaign manager in 2016. The Group has done lobbying for Ukrainian and Russian interests over the years and appear to be in the direct line of fire if Mueller's investigation continues down the path of prosecuting Manafort.
Apparently these scandals are large and damaging enough to Democrats that moments ago Tony Podesta stepped down as chairman of his own company.
There are currently 3 separate Congressional Committees investigating scandals that don't incriminate Trump, but rather his accusers from the left. They are looking into the Uranium One purchase by the Russians and the genesis of the Trump Dossier and the bad behavior that surrounds it.
There is so much publicly proven knowledge regarding the Dossier and the Uranium One scandals, I don't believe that Mueller will be able to back away from information that he has already obtained without he himself being charged with obstruction.
Manafort has already turned himself in and been given a bail hearing. Mueller cannot now say that no criminal activity was found by his probe. He is caught between a rock and a hard place. The call for a Special Prosecutor to investigate Trump, after the now debunked Dossier was leaked, was the brainchild of the Hillary camp, after she lost the election.
It now appears that this political handgrenade has boomeranged right back into the lap of the Clinton crime family and is set to explode. How does Mueller get out of this sticky situation? There's enough meat on these bones to take down the Democratic party as we know them today. Too much has already made to the public for the handlers at the MSM to spin their way out of this one.
As Hillary famously stated, that if Trump takes the White House, "We will all hang from nooses." Just the tip of the iceberg.
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Manafort is likely Trump's Trojan Horse. And with him pleading not guilty that tells me he's still working for Trump and Mueller will not be able to lean on him and turn him against Trump.
NO ONE IN THE SWAMP WANTS MANAFORT ON THE STAND.
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Respectfully disagree; if Manafort is Trump's Trojan Horse then Trump is swamp too and we are all being played to keep the pitchforks away from the lot of them whilst they consolidate the goodies. You may be right, but my reading is that Manafort and Mueller are cooperating - they are both fully swamp. This is pure distraction from the real 'Russia Collusion' - which of course is really just high level global criminals squabbling for control of the pie, regardless of nationality, to stay invisible to the masses who may lynch them if they are actually seen for what they are. Mueller had to do something now for distraction, so he did - and his 'friend' has supplied the handy target (which will go basically nowhere). The longer the public stays distracted, the more time the criminals have to cover their tracks and bore the sleeping masses back into utter apathy - not far from where they are all the time. So the swamp wants Manafort on the stand alright - the distraction 'stand', now, whilst they whip up their next batch of bread and circuses...
For what it's worth - they will fail. They are morons, and the game is up. Db
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Fair enough. I don't know what's going on and anyone's guess is as good as any other, but I don't think Manafort is working for Mueller at this point.
The most obvious explanation is that Mueller needed to pull someone, likely from both sides of the political aisle to keep any probes into him at bay.
Manafort would have plead guilty and been working on a plea deal if he was going to roll over on Trump.
What does he gain by doing so? They aren't going to impeach Trump on what they have, so there is only downside for the bad guys if Manafort testifies.
I hear what you're saying but I think this is bigger than that.
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Perhaps - but the answer to what they gain is as I wrote - public distraction, right now, from Uranium One; all the mainstream have jumped on this Manafort story instead, despite the fact that in content, it is a nothing-burger. Uranium One isn't, but the longer it draws out the more they can 'do a Podesta' and claim without backing that it is all 'debunked'. Those efforts are already underway. Manafort is small fry - he goes along as a handy public patsy for a while, and they agree to not suicide him or jail him for too long, and give him a nice goody bag on the way out of the gates later. I suggest Mueller is small-fry too - a couple hundred million in the bank is zilch to these players behind them. I remain on the fence on Trump - whatever he is, it is a masterful play by someone. I hope he is on the side of the light, but in the long run, I don't think it matters one jot, because the real power is not in their hands, they are delaying the inevitable reckoning... Db
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Public distraction is not enough. Manafort actually helps lead back to Uranium One by exposing everyone involved in Ukraine.
I do believe Trump is on the right side of the story. I've never seen the Deep State this freaked out by anyone. They have spent too much political capital trying to destroy him to think he's their Trojan Horse.
This all leads to Hillary, and I'm becoming convinced that Mueller is actually helping Trump set them all up. I could be wrong, certainly. So, we'll see what happens. Good talk.
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hehe I genuinely hope you're right with this - on both Trump and Mueller. I buy the Trump theory more - totally agree, the hysteria against him is an incredible act if he really is an insider after all. As for Mueller - what undermines my confidence in your thesis is the pure malignant corruption of the man historically. Bottom line - a cleared swamp is a wiped-out Mueller, reputation shredded permanently, likely jailed for life. Has that creature really turned? Db
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Or. Trump offered him an immunity deal to help him take these people out. Trump will do what it takes and if it means making a Faustian deal with a slime-sucking dirtbag like Mueller, fine.
Consider it. Not saying it's true, just a possibility.
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Mmm... again I like your optimism. I think Pelosi's sudden squealing for a new 'independent' investigation just may support your position here. If you're right, we will find out very soon indeed I suspect...
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The swamp has a few too many people, like Manafort, who know way too much to ever take the stand. If that happens, the drain plug gets pulled.
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If they ever want credibility they will lock her up. She would burn the swamp if she goes down.
It's so incestuous in the swamp, they've run out of not corrupt prosecutors.
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