So,
the most used interface for steem, is of course steemit.com. The functionality of the web application is far from comprehensive, and still many things are not visible, and not usable.
You cannot, for example, use steemit.com to delegate steem power. Vessel may be pre release, but it works perfectly, and make's steemit.com's 'beta' tag look like a great big old fib. It's still alpha grade. Betas have all the features exposed in the interface. I'm pretty sure, even, that beta literally means 'we put all the bits in but we aren't sure it's bug free yet'.
So as I have mentioned in recent posts after my discovery that the interface suppresses downvote visibility, well, that's a pity, but kitty does not pull random numbers out of the air about how to decide who to put her little scratches on, she has the Catabase.
We will be making a daily report of the high achievers of Steem through her account, as well as the statistics broken down into brackets of steem power, plankton, minnows, dolphins, orcas and whales. The data will be of course fully verifiable by anyone with the inclination to check.
Not only that, maybe certain whales with a history of fondness for those little red flags will oblige kitty with some more horsepower, after all, if they aren't powering it down, then they can do this, and they either do, or don't take direct credit for doing this, as she totes up serial self voters totals, her votes will start to make dots appear on the post flags.
We don't know who our allies are until we lead the charge. So the charge will continue.
As for those of you who think a little bot with 1200 delegated SP is a 'bully' and that such teensy votes from a tiny account are 'flag abuse', I beg to differ.
You can have your comment self votes, just like we can have our tiny downvotes on those comments.
We will let the community decide what is abuse, what is not, and what demands a hard fork to change something. It is our position that self voted comments, 99.99% of the time, amount to upvote abuse. No argument can justify a rule for you, and another rule for anyone who wants to use downvotes to signal disapproval, or to reduce the diversion of rewards to these comments.
The only rules on the blockchain are the consensus code, and limited by the interface, as to what functions you can access. We call this behaviour abuse because it is both antisocial, and as the data will either confirm or deny, detrimental to the community as a whole.
No minnows under 1000SP will be harmed in this experiment, and the rest of you will not even notice what's going on. But the data is all there, even on the blockchain, marked for easy reference.
https://steemd.com/@smackdown.kitty will list the stream of self-voted accounts names and their comment URL, all neatly packaged, and every witness and RPC server will be mirroring this data for us, as well as the MongoDB that @personz is populating with data, that will give us the ability to regularly update the community who's cleaning their lower regions, and who is being sociable.
I have decided, that since the complacency of those who are very attached to their ability to cause their nether regions to become cleaned, and off they run with SBD a week later, that I am not declining payouts any further on posts about this. I will, when my resources permit, instead be continuing to invest my SP into increasing her capabilities.
By the way, to the people who are so certain that we mean harm by this, I had been so long away from Facebook, that I forgot, due to the absence of significant, essential social network functionality of user blocking - and this is a beautiful irony, it was ME who got the mute functionality working on steemit.com. You can find it deep in the archives if you look, at github, or here on the blockchain. I campaigned for that after getting flagged down to reputation ten in september last year. It is the beautiful thing about networks. You can just filter out crap. That's why they invented firewalls, for the digital equivalent of your engagement with me.
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I've been putting myself under far too much pressure this last few days. But I'm not 'debating' with people who don't recognise the difference between judging behaviour and Ad Hominem attacks. It's a tricky one for most people because it is sorta 'normal' to call people who you think do stupid things 'retards' and it's maybe not helpful.
After some thought, I decided that there is something else I could do, especially if I am gonna quit being so chatty in here for a bit... https://github.com/steemit/condenser/blob/master/doc/LICENSE.md seems to indicate that this is pretty much CC attribution type licence, so why not run such a thing? I could do cool things like the node.js based wsiwyg editor I've seen elsewhere, I can modify from @jesta's vessel code to add missing features from the wallet, I could change the whole layout so that it looks also good on a 4k screen like mine, perhaps make two columns when the width is over 1920 pixels wide...
No sense in reinventing the wheel. And I should stop avoiding node.js - just because I don't like dynamic typing does not mean I can't write code that also suffers from these flaws, I should rise to the challenge.
Wow, you keep hitting the nail on the head. And yet my dumb... butt.... went and bumped heads with @craig-grant over the issue (and he even took a screenshot out of context to make a meme post that drew the attention of other Whales to go on the attack, not to mention over $65 worth of upvotes almost immediately).
The comment that started it all can be found here~> https://steemit.com/art/@craig-grant/crypto-ambassador#@rohitrajput/re-craig-grant-crypto-ambassador-20170702t173813955z
The meme post (which I found very disrespectful and a call out to basically attack me for my opinion) can be found here ~> https://steemit.com/steem/@craig-grant/steem-power
As a fellow I follow put so well here ~> https://steemit.com/steemit/@sornprar/steemit-self-upvotes-and-feeding-the-red-fish-and-minnows-the-scraps
"....people with money and a sense of power have always oppressed the poor.... they begin to think they are a whole other species....masturbation is a time honored tradition for those above the clouds....when it comes to money there is no such thing as friends, family or loved ones, it seems...." ~ @everman.
Not sure if this place is really for me, yet will stick it out and continue to promote @smackdown.kitty for as long as I can.
Now, if I can just disipline myself to keep my big mouth shut I just might get a step ahead (lulz).
Thank You @l0k1
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Thanks for your support and encouragement. I apologise for losing hope for a few hours after I realised the dumbass primary interface of steem mutes the signs of community disapproval until it becomes a roar.
Before the roar, there is the sucking in of breath, because this stuff is not easy to do, and there is so many people with their eyes only on their bag, which they have become accustomed to being able to fill with no validation from others.
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btw, I've never got why anyone votes for him. He is a celebrity from somewhere else?
Nope, we aren't quitting on the kitten... She's gonna be in testing for a few days, but the more important thing is her database. Now that she is functional, we can pull reports from the database she is filling up, which has the information about user account, SP, and their cumulative score for self-voting comments. The first report may be published tonight or tomorrow night.
I am very grateful for people like you who fully understand and support this project. It will be very cool if we can raise her steem power so high that she can have a similar reward pool impact as the Experiment's bot had, I figure that just requires enough people to delegate.
Also, as I have added in the amended OP, I am pulling the conderser sourcecode, and I'm going to start forking it, and make the changes that many have been clamouring for for long time. The licence clearly permits me to do this, and I know that I can run an RPC and webserver for really not that much cost that should be able to handle hundreds of users an a time (1.2tb storage, 10 cores, 50gb of memory, gigabit uplink), the cost for the RPC on such a machine is about 28 euros a month, and then a second server about 2/3 of that capacity can run the webserver, and I'll leave in the stuff that allows uploads of images to steemit.com's CDN, or maybe, even better I can integrate with another CDN, since automatically steemit.com caches every image there anyway.
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I don't get his celebrity and fame either... I think it's more of a case of how he is teaching so many to rob the rewards pool by neglecting the newcomers while claiming the lie he supports so may of them. His upvotes seem very selective, aside from his voting for himself, to mostly other Whales and just enough for newcomers to perpetuate his lies and the scam.
Was thinking about throwing some cash into this system.... yet after this recent experience and butting heads with @craig-grant and his merry band of brown-nosers there is no way I could even consider it now. Please check out my last post and let me know if your opinion is I am way off base or perhaps onto something.
Thank you, I look forward to your response (when or if you have the time, I am quite sure you're very busy atm).
https://steemit.com/steemit/@sornprar/the-norm-here-invest-your-cash-and-time-so-malicious-whales-can-suck-the-rewards-pool-dry-good-luck-with-that
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These are the kinds of reasons why such easy routes to exploiting the system have to be removed, which I can do on the interface side, and if I am able to make the first interface that is better than Steemit, then people will slowly move across. At this point in time, the troll under the bridge is Steemit, Inc. They are pretending they are not demanding a fee for transit, but they are, and they are taking it in underhanded ways.
Don't let these people get in the way of what benefits you are gaining through your interactions here with everyone else who is not them. I have made enough income that I can actually start working on something better, alongside the campaign to educate people about the flaw that is causing these problems, I am going to simply fix the problem on the user side, and then if necessary, fork the chain and fix the problems in the backend.
And don't let it stop you from recognising that these bad apples don't ruin the batch, we just need to pick the good ones out, and throw the bad ones in the trash.
I cannot believe how intensively I have been trolled in my efforts here, but as you can easily understand, if I succeed in my goal, their business model is dead in the water.
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Thanks for all you are doing. Wish I could help more, I've depleted my voting power supporting all those speaking out against this draining of the rewards pool by these habitual self-upvoters.
I know little about coding. And though I know how to develop and manage a simple website (shameless self promotion http://www.dynaphase.net ), how to mirror sites and use wget etc., I don't know a think about the blockchain or creating code itself (other than in html and css).
I sure hope your efforts pick up steam, this issue is further exposed, and the good guys like you out there join in to put a stop to it.
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not self explanatory post.
and I tell you a lot of questions on my side :) ... first things first...
by..."we" ?? what does this mean? what group do you belong to?
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Sorry about that... too many trolls baying for my blood and I was overwhelmed, compounded by lack of sleep. @personz actually said to me that he was glad I was willing to be the spokesman for #project-smackdown - we haven't thought of a name yet, but first thing I am doing is setting up an RPC server, installing the as yet unchanged fork of Condenser, and a second, subdomain with
test.
in front, where we will upload our modifications, which will at first be all about providing the features that we want to see, that the people also want to see.Me, @personz, @the-ego-is-you, and the growing number of commenters on my posts, are all direct supporters of #project-smackdownQuite a number of others have raised concerns, some are quite angry about this situation, and as I have been pointing out, minnows are being severely neglected and those rewards you are so wisely assigning to yourself, are being taken away from the incentives that drive adoption, and adoption is the name of the game.If self voting was the game, why even bother making posts at all?I will just take this opportunity to let you know something. Your insight-free commentary upon this subject no longer gets my attention anymore.If you are so righteous, then why do you have to paint a picture like we are malicious bullies trying to ruin everyone's fun, when such an interpretation makes 'slanted' look like the far distant horizon.Downvoting a post can decrease pending rewards and make it less visible. Common reasons:
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wrong copy paste?
it makes no sense to me.
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