We all know the stories of people like Bernie Madoff who ran one of the most successful ponzi schemes, if not the most successful of all time. However, there are many more people out there that have been doing the same types of scams under the radar and nobody catches them. These people are complete psychopaths with not only zero remorse, but actually lacking the ability to feel bad about what they have done. Most of the people running these scams actually think in some ways they are helping people.
My best friends dad worked 30 years has a policemen, with much of that time spent doing forensic account and catching white collar criminals. I asked him about what some of the most bizarre stories of people he encountered were and what they were like. He said almost always these people were considered pillars of the community and well respected for years. No one ever had any reason to expect them because they would never get screwed over, that is until the money dries up. He also mentioned that probably 50% of the people he investigated were able to hustle their way onto esteemed positions like working for the local government investing funds, or doing so for religious organizations.
In addition, like I said before he mentioned about 90% of the people were convince they were doing nothing wrong. He said his personal favorite was this guy they busted in the 90s who was selling shares of made up companies to people. In his mind he wasn’t running a scam because as long as he got another greater fool he would make the other people rich. In fact at one point they wanted to do a lie detector test on him and ask him if he knew he was defrauding the people that invested with him. My friend’s dad told them not to do it, the guy is a full on psychopath, but they did the test anyway. The guy passed with flying colors with over 50 questions. Ultimately the lie detector test hurt their prosecution and they were only able to send him away for 5 or so years. My friends dad says he looks him up every once and a while and since they put him in jail hes done the same thing three times.
Also the problem why so many of these conmen go under the radar is because their either make friends with the right people, for example Madoff was friends with multiple people in the SEC and in law enforcement, or they simply don’t make enough money to warrant an investigation. My friend’s dad said more than once they would call the FBI because they had to deal with somebody who either went over state lines or they operated in multiple areas. He said when they called the FBI and said “this guy stole 800k from people” often times they were too understaffed at the moment so they would say “call us back if he steals 2 million”. There are many people who spend their entire lives as conmen and it never catches up to them because they don’t make enough of a splash.
The same thing happens on Wall Street with penny stocks and the various groups and forums that pump and dump them. There are people with 20k+ followers who pay to get into a group that just selects a target and decides to pump it for no reason. Then it dumps and people get caught holding the bag. This is blatant security fraud, but the SEC doesn’t have enough manpower to do anything about it. You cant ever assume that someone is legitimate. You always have to look at someone for yourself and if something seems easy and too good to be true it usually is.
The problem with the crypto space is many of these psychopaths have come here to scam. It is still the wild west and bitcoin alone has made many scammers millions of dollars. Basic scams as affinity scams, which are when someone risks their reputation, which almost always means nothing, or basic ponzi schemes, are commonplace. Onecoin, was able to scam people out of millions because people were buying products that they had no idea how they worked. The selling pitch was literally “bitcoin but better, and oh you cant sell it”. Its crazy how much money people threw at them.
There are conmen everywhere, but they will always go to the places that are the most profitable, which is currently the crypto space. Watch out for people who promise the world and always fall flat on their expectations or make excuses. Don’t trust anyone on the internet with your money.
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You are right about the "Wild wild west" scenario, but those scam artists are short lived - to my mind anyway..... but hey... I am but a noooooob, so I shall just smile sweetly in the corner. lol
My brothers would probably be better suited to comment... they are my "crypto guru's" haha...
We had an evening together last night, which I just posted about... a LOT less technical in make up, but perhaps you might still appreciate it hehe :)
You know what the topic of the day is going to be at a family get together, when your brothers don’t make it passed the passage and into the actual lounge before whipping out their paper wallets and starting the crypto talk…
https://steemit.com/life/@jaynie/curry-cousins-and-more-crypto-welcome-to-my-world-4
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Wow.. Saw your achievements.. (Also the problem why so many of these conmen go under the radar is because their either make friends with the right people, ) i totally agree on this. Nice post. Following you and always on a look out your post. Resteemed
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Very interesting and a good reminder, thank you. We meet psycopaths every day and work with them beside us. I've known a couple....
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These kinds scams are everywhere but the worst part is how much people fall for these scams.
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I believe one of the guys in a stock forum im in really believes Onecoin is a real coin.
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@calaber24p you are right, excellent post about so many money-hungry people with zero morals...they would sell their mother if that would bring them enough money. Internet as a whole is full of get-rich-quick schemes call it for e-commerce, affiliate marketing, MLM, etc. And cryptocurrency is the new El Dorado for fraudsters and conmen wanting to get away with people money and dreams.
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Good points. Basically you can not rely on law enforcement to protect you, particularly proactively, in many situations and you just need to take responsibility and precautions for yourself and using your best judgement. If it is too good to be true, then it probably is not true.
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The Free Market will solve that problem efficiently!! We don't need no government!!!
I just couldn't resist...
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These people don't have moral and ethical values. Great post liked reading it.
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there's actually an italian proverb for this...
"a rubar poco si va in galera, a rubar tanto si fa carriera"
(by stealing small, you'll go to prison. By stealing big, you'll make a career out of it)
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oh man, we really are in the middle of scam city central!!
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"We all know the stories of people like Bernie Madoff who ran one of the most successful ponzi schemes, if not the most successful of all time." He was just a little bit behind how successful the federal reserve is.
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Perfect point of view, like an interesting story
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Why can't people earn their own money .. Why is there any need to rob someone of their hard earned money ?
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OneCoin sounds like an interesting story that I missed.
This whole post dovetails nicely with one I wrote today about corporate lying. I want to say there's (almost) no honor anymore, but I wonder if there ever truly was?
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even the name "Bernie Madoff" - "Madeoff with the loot" - the whole thing seems very fishy. Add obama to your list of conmen. He was able to con anyone with an IQ of less than 80 it seems.
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Great advice and an interesting story 😎 👍
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as long as stupid people are there, smart people will keep getting their bread and butter
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Yes, watch out for the scammers who go where there is hype and excitement. By the way I've got a new miner rig in Bulgaria for you. Want to invest? No? Or maybe an ICO with no white paper called Rocket Coin. We will build a rocket to the moon and set up a hotel there with it. You will be on the first flight. Interested?
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the biggest criminal wears a tie
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This is a Fantastic Post, We are working daily to expose the scammers and we are helping people find the real ICO's and Cryptocurrency Projects that will make a difference in our lives.
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Here is one that comes to mind
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Reminds me of the former NJ State Governor. John Corzine pictured above. Built a hedge fund that many claimed was a Ponzi. The fund collapsed and he got a slap, on the wrist from according to insiders . Here is more on the story below. Once a highly respected person. Did he abuse his power and connections. You be the Judge.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jon-corzine-resigns-as-mf-global-scandal-deepens/
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Another one was Jon Corzine a total psychopaths. He stole peoples money and gambled it away on wall street. He got away with it scott free and was even promoted to Obama's entourage
http://www.thechinamoneyreport.com/2012/08/18/jon-corzine-portrait-of-a-psychopath/
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It might not be a popular opinion, but anybody who falls for scams like Onecoin is kinda asking for it. I remember looking at that website and it was just a clear scam, top to bottom. No real info, a bunch of super hypey claims, and no actual experience on the team.
People see companies/websites offering just shy of FREE MONEY and they just seem to take it out of greed or shortsightedness. I dont know.
Have you heard of "Ponzi Supernova?" It's a podcast miniseries, about three hours long, all about Bernie Madoff - and the host actually manages to interview him. Bernie absolutely fits the description you make in your post - he's convinced that he was a good guy who just "got in over his head." Even though he's a monster.
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