Question of the Day - Did NASA Really Land on the Moon or Not? [qod][conspiracytheory]

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"Space maybe the final frontier but it's made in a Hollywood basement"

-- Californication
-- the Red Hot Chili Peppers

Real or Not Real?


The other day a friend and I were discussing NASA's Lunar Landing Mission and whether or not it actually happened. It all started when @kid4life asked Which Influential Figure Would You Be for a Day? and he mentioned Neil Armstrong. The topic stood in my head for a bit, and so I eventually discussed it with some friends.

Some of my friends believe that NASA did succeed in landing on the Moon and returning the astronauts back to Earth, while some of my other friends don't believe that NASA put human beings on the Moon, and then returned them safely to Earth. So today's Question of the Day is Did Nasa Really Land on the Moon or Not? State why or why not in your comment.

I personally want to be believe that NASA succeeded in placing human beings on the Moon, and then was successful in returning them safely back to Earth, but the cynical side of my mind casts so much doubt on that belief. The reason I want to believe that mankind was successful is because this would be one of if not thee greatest achievement in the history of mankind. The ability to transcend Earth's gravitational grounding, land on another terrestrial object and then return back to the home planet Earth is beyond amazing for a creature that shares 98% or 99% DNA with chimpanzees, bonobos and gorillas.

If NASA was successful, this could eventually lead to colonizing the Moon with the intent of using it for storage as well as a staging area for launching towards Mars. Since the Moon is much closer, it would be easier to go back and forth to Earth with supplies in both directions (thinking Moon mining for ores). Once a successful space colony is established on the Moon, the next step would be to prepare a staging area for launching to Mars. Even if this is not a viable option for launching to Mars, it still would be a great place to start experimenting with space colonization, while still somewhat being tethered to Earth.

This all sounds great, but if we are to consider space travel and colonization an experiment, then there are some gaps in the data. The biggest notable gap is that like in all breakthrough scientific experiments, it has to be at the very least replicated, if not by other "space scientiest" then the original experimenters. Considering NASA's scientific experiment from 1969 - 1972, then this experiment has never duplicated "in the lab" again. In scientific circles, this NASA "experiment" would be considered bogus since it has not be done by NASA or anyone else since the original period.

Did you know that from 1958 - 1965 NASA attempted 18 unmanned lunar missions, with only 3 of them being fully successful. That means NASA was only successful about 17% of the time it attempted to simply land on the Moon. The Russians fared worse during this time period with only a 10% success rate. From 1966 - 1968 NASA completed 5 of 7 lunar landings only, for a much better percentage rate of 71%. Then, all of a sudden NASA is 100% successful in not only landing on the Moon, but then successfully returning the Astronauts to Earth the following years from 1969-1972.

Secondly, the original NASA film footage of mankind's greatest achievement, the Apollo 11 Moon Landing, has been lost. Somehow the U.S. government still has a 240 year old document, the Declaration of Independence, but does not have the original footage from NASA's 1969 Moon Landing. This is very hard to believe, casting a long shadow of doubt and opening the door to conspiracy theory. The quickest conspiracy that arises is that this film was lost in order to avoid scrutiny for evidence of proof that the Moon landings were faked by Hollywood. I know some will point to the LROC images of the Moon, but the Government has space satellites that can probably read what is on your iphone dispay when out and about, and those LROC images are a joke.

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Stanley Kubrick with NASA Official?

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They sure as hell did not land on the moon!!!

Agree.

Humans have left over 187,400 kilograms (413,100 lb) of material on the Moon,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artificial_objects_on_the_Moon

Too many inconsistencies on both sides. I don't think they 'lost' the footage from Apollo 11. They have it, it's stored. It's our government at work.

The first footage... I agree you don't see the earth at all, there are no stars at any point in any picture, unless it's daylight 24/7 with no atmosphere though there would be an abundance of stars. The reflection in one of the helmets and so forth. The environment seems structured. When you look at other pictures such as the video put up by @funbobby51 the terrain is different.

Why haven't we gone back? Who says we haven't? The last time I was at Cape Canaveral Challenger was in place for launch in a couple of weeks.

There had to be success at some point our government would not have spent that much money on 6 missions . Would they hide their findings...definitely.

Of course I do view all of this a bit differently. What better way to keep things quiet than to keep conspiracy theories running amuck. The answers to theses questions and hypothesis will not be answered until most of us are long gone. Maybe our great-grandchildren will know. We never will. Freedom of Information Act or not. Our government will not release anything it doesn't want to.

Thanks for the input @tryskele and yes you do put another ingredient to this thickening plot.

In my opinion it's all a LIE.

Motive: Why money of course! Look how much funding they get!!!!

Good evening @streetstyle, of course, NASA arrived and continues to arrive, not only to the moon, but also to carry out secret projects, and activities that, according to them, are not important to us beings of the common, without taking into account that among us there are people with remarkable intelligence.
Have a nice night:)

Good in my opinion is a total sham,
In 1969 buzz aldrin the astronaut who was sent or who has stepped on the moon in his photo shows that it is a total assembly, always when we make assemblies we forget to review to the last detail and this was easily displayed in the photo that was published as a sign that if he had visited the moon, hehe forgot to turn on the stars and constellations in the background, here we can appreciate it
Greetings friend ..

I personally want to be believe that NASA succeeded in placing human beings on the Moon, and then was successful in returning them safely back to Earth, but the cynical side of my mind casts so much doubt on that belief.

First of all great topic. I agree with your opinion. To be honest with you I’m even more sceptical than I was before when Trump said recently they will put an extra budget to send a man back to the moon. Comparing today’s technology with technology decades and decades ago, why wouldn’t they go back to lend on the moon already between then and today? Why do they need an extra budget? I saw many interviews with the cosmonauts who “apparently landed on the moon” and there was so many red flags. I remember one of them wasn’t sure what to say when asked “how did they get through Van Allen radiation belt?”.... At the end do we get to know the truth? There will always be sceptical people like me and people who believe whatever government says regardless what the truth is.

Russia has never been to the moon, 12 Americans have walked on the moon.

As much as I would like for the moon landing to have happened, the inconsistencies scream.

And I haven't found logical answer to my queries yet..

The blast pattern under the landing ship, and 'all the technology data has been 'lost' about previous landings.
The biggest event in human history, and they 'misplaced the data'....?

....Really?

interesting now one has to travel back in time to find that out but something this sound really awesome to think in that way may be they just hyped up everything

I think yes, i think is really difficult hold a fake situation like that for years and years, but as we know goverments are able to do something like that and can create all this farce, coclusion i don't know but i hope yes. Regards

It is a lie, because in the moon there is not enough energy or anything habitable for a human, no one has visited, or stepped on the moon, if that were the case there would be many more humans wanting to visit and inhabit the moon ...
Regards @streetstyle

Landing on moon is the biggest joke by NASA, it only makes to stop the activity of russia on areoship and space war!

The argument that have been in the comment section is indeed great and to say my opinion that i do agree that Nasa did not land on the Moon !

Haha. Come on.
I don't think there is any conspiracy involved.
They did land on the moon.

@wa2qr I am just saying that in science, any time a scientist claims to have discovered or made or did something new, a scientific breakthrough, then other scientist usually verify such accomplishment by duplicating the same experiment.
Considering that space travel and exploration is a science, it is odd that no one, not even the NASA itself has been able or willing to duplicate this experiment.
With over 40 years of technological advancement and still no attempt at the moon? hmmm.

I agree there might be a chance but we are made to believe what little knowledge they provide us.
But no that you have chased this topic, my interest in this has doubled.
I'm going to look for some answers and get back to you.
What if it was difficult to get to the moon and they could not duplicate it.

We went to the moon several times 12 Americans walked on its surface. We drove cars there, we played golf there, we collected rocks, there really is not much else to do there

You make it sound like a typical rich American's Sunday funday... and may I say exclusive too.
And far as nothing to do, then why even think about Mars when we can't even put a tent up on the moon?
Oh that's right, the USA says it already did that.... oddly humans have climbed to the peak of Mt. Everest before and yet many still do it and some more than once just to make a point.
And if mankind is to ever begin true space exploration, what better place to practice than in your own back yard, or does traveling to Mars which takes years to get to seem more logical?

We have sent all a number of crazy robots to Mars, unless those are all fake too. Right now NASA's long term plans involve building robots that can dig the surface of mars and/or the moon for subsurface ice crystals to be used for rocket fuel and air and such to make human habitation possible. Frankly I think robots are a much better value. But if you want to go to Mars sounds like Trump's plan to retake the moon is overdue. It's hard to fathom the scope of their efforts back in the day. Have you been to Cape Canaveral? I saw an Atlas 5 launch last year from just offshore, it's fucking mind boggling.

Those were all one way tickets to Mars with some failures I believe, which is great, but still doesn't prove that NASA actually sent humans to and fro if you consider that time period one giant experiment.
And yes science tries to answer the maybes and doubts, but if I claim to have discovered how to "turn lead into gold" and do it 5 times in my lab using all my tools and measuring instruments, lose certain recordings of said experiments and never replicate these same experiments nor does any one else then it becomes doubtful that those experiments ever happened or succeeded. It doesn't mean I didn't turn lead in to gold, it just means you're going to have to believe I did it.

The point of the going to the moon and the space program was to beat the Soviets, we defeated them. What's the point now?

BTW It's easier to turn bismuth into gold, some guy says he did it, he says he could do lead too.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-lead-can-be-turned-into-gold/

do you believe he did it?

The propaganda sounding saying that "we defeated them" is another reason why I wonder if NASA really did land on the Moon. It was more of an us against them race than a race for the advancement of science and mankind which leads us back to the ideals and motives of such actions.
And yes, I have read where a professor at UCI is turning lead into gold, as other scientist have also done in other labs and experiments. The problem here is that it cost millions for a highly radioactive ounce of gold. Does it mean no one should ever again attempt to turn lead or any other element into gold? Of course it doesn't, it means that many more experiments must be done, especially to prove the validity of such results. Hence, NASA has only gone once to the moon, never again and no one else has either puts into question whether they ever did at all.
Another aspect to think about while on this theme is that the smartphone in your pocket probably has much more computing power than all of NASA's computers combined during those lunar missions and yet with all these technological advancemenst, no one has sent a robot to the Moon and back yet? This should be a piece of cake but yet hasn't been done, well at least not in the past 3 decades if ever.
So I know that NASA and other space agencies can get them there (the Moon and Mars), just not sure if they can get them back.
Again, I am not saying they did or didn't. Bottom line, I am saying to NASA 'Prove it!'

Interesting question sir @streetstyle.
Did NASA Really Land on the Moon or Not?
We donot see its live but we see photo on nasa land so my answer is "YES".
Thanks for sharing.

Actually I believe that NASA will be success for their project but yet not..

i think its not real...

Its really a fantasy people keep on seeing but i did not see anything about this.

There was a great interview with Neil Armstrong where he was asked that question, I think in the early 2000s. He responded calmly, and said, he was proud to have been part of one of man’s greatest achievements, the Apollo moon landings.

Plot theory The owners say that some or all elements of the Apollo 11 program, which is associated with landing on the moon, was a hoax that NASA has done in collaboration with other organizations. This theory emerged after the completion of the voyage, specifically in 1970, where many scientific analyzes or based on the theory of conspiracy that questioned the authenticity of this trip by saying that humans did not land on the moon at the time. Images and videos were produced in ground studios. The most prominent claim is that the manned landings (1969-1972) were all forged and that the 12 Apollo astronauts did not actually walk or walk on the moon. Since the mid-1970s, various groups and individuals have considered that what NASA did was nothing more than an allegation and conspiracy. The authors of the conspiracy theory claim that NASA and others misled the public by believing that the landing was occurring through counterfeiting and tampering. Or destruction and destruction of evidence, including measurement data, images, audio and video tapes, transmission data, and lunar rock samples

Even I don't think so, various reason behind that

  1. NASA said that there was no air but the flag was moving through waving.
    2.then moon has their own light. But I figured out that in four direction his shadow present on the surface of the moon.
    These two points not able me to believe them.
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Well i don't think so, Scientist said that there is no air on the moon, but the picture they uploaded has a waving flag, how it was waving? I didn't found the answer to this question anywhere.

I think this is impossible because the distance between the moon and the earth is very far away, and there also has no air,
Maybe neil amstrong landed somewhere else they thought it was the moon ..

Not real. Because noi oxygen and air on that. So how van this baby alive without oxygrn.

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Very sweet baby photography post Sir.. I love baby... wow wonderful space...

The GPS in my car works pretty fucking good, unless the satellites are blocked.

Then, all of a sudden NASA is 100% successful in not only landing on the Moon, but then successfully returning the Astronauts to Earth the following years from 1969-1972.

Maybe everyone dying in Apollo one made them make safety a priority, until everyone dying later on the Space Shuttle

I doubt all these people would be killed if it was just a movie set but those are pretty dangerous also I guess.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spaceflight-related_accidents_and_incidents

We all know how sketchy Apollo 13 was but everyone almost died in Apollo 15 as well when a parachute failed.

Not to mention the awesome treasure map that Gordon Cooper made from space.

Maybe's and doubt's don't really apply to science.... if this was considered one big experiment and it hasn't been replicated, then it didn't happen. It's not me, it's science.
And I am not saying the world is flat, there are many satellites going round by many different countries and companies, proving that going around the earth in orbit scientifically works.
Again, I want to believe that NASA accomplished this great feat but I also want to believe in aliens traveling to space time.

Maybe's and doubt's don't really apply to science.

LOL, that's all science deals in. It was replicated several times, we went several times.

I want to believe that NASA accomplished this great feat but I also want to believe in aliens traveling to space time.

Why not both? Did you see the list of all the crap we have left on the Moon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artificial_objects_on_the_Moon

let me skate on the moon hahahb

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wow man did they explore the moon or not