I was thankful for it at the time but see it in a whole different way these days.
Kudos to you if you slogged through it!
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I never made it through that thing, a friend did but we never really had a chance to discuss it. I just love this type of subject matter but I'm not an avid reader. Keep on keeping on ;9)
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Feel free to ask me anything about, The Urantia Book...Definitely, one of the most interesting things ever written but probably (most likely) complete and utter B.S.:D
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There is an endless supply of BS out there. I'm more of a Celestine Prophesy/ Carlos Castenada kind of guy myself. I used to be in this group that would take a couple of trips each year around to different parts of the world and meditate at pyramids and places like that. It was a decade of fun and exploring. But then the other people started really putting our leader on pedestal and it became bogged down in BS.... putting the whole thing in a vibration that we were originally attempting to escape. I had some awesome experiences, ones that I cherish to this day.
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You should get two vestal virgins for getting through the poor writing of Redfield:D
I appreciated Castenada when I was tripping back in the day.
Yup, the experiences are real phenomenologically (see William James) ...What do they mean in the greater scheme of things? Debatable.
My trip these days is to try and convince people to frame their spiritual experiences as speculative metaphysics.
Cheers!
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I didn't read Redfield, I listened to it on tape. It was crazy when I really hit the zone outlined by the insights weird stuff would happen, like stuff falling off the shelves at the supermarket when I would walk by. Then I read Castenada, met a Mexican Brujo/Medicine man, hung out with him for a decade and traveled to some really amazing places like Machu Pichu, the pyramids in Egypt and Mexico. The thing I liked about Castenada is that it all boils down to perception and awareness, will and intent which allows you to operate on additional realms... anyway I'm talking your ear off. Thank you for your time.
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I think the control drama idea is useful if framed within popular psychology. Adding woo-woo to the idea doesn't really add much to it as far as I can see.
On shamanism, magical siddhis, psi, etc.: it's pretty piss poor from my perspective that the only evidence of such things comes from asserted avenues like Crowleyism with their associated negativities which amount to mind games towards those whom one dislikes.
How about this as a controlled experiment done in a spiritual university: someone who claims psi and Siddhi powers picks a starving family in Africa out of the ether and sends them the winning numbers to a world lottery? It would help if this was repeatable and that the demonstrator is able to do this under controlled conditions time and time again. Something like this would get my attention and until such a time I view all Siddhi's as coming from lying archons which is consistent with their mind games. Please note this comment isn't personal and I'm only addressing the ideas that are out there in the spiritual community.
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You seem to be very well read and knowledgeable. The whole control drama subject was one of the things I found useful. I welcome points of view that may differ from ones I may or may not hold. I would interested in hearing your views on the Bardos explained in the "Tibetian Book of the Dead" and if organized religion primarily benefits the lying archons and of the craziness of Scientology.... I'm going to back read your posts to get more familiar with your work and browse through you guitar posts... If these subjects interest you and you would like to continue this conversation that would be cool, if not, no worries.
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I'm just a guy with an opinion gibber:) As are all people who make supernatural claims but can't demonstrate them (everyone in religion)...
I'll get back to you on The Book of The Dead.
L Ron was a modern religionist. He simply took rational psychology and sci-fi ideas and welded it into a religious mythological canon.
There is efficacy on some levels but the metaphysics is sketchy as fcuk!
Cheers...
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