Since it&#x27;s now acceptable to reward yourself.

themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

I didn't even downvote him, I just provided some data and I got 10 different people downvoting me and a major size witness vote lost as a result. People seem happy that one person can get a huge portion of the reward pool posting 10+ times a day.

Then his response was:

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hitmeasap (71) · 7 years ago

Ouch, that sucks! And yeah, people seem happy that one person can earn anything between $2000 and $4000 per day...

When most of the rewards comes from one user.

However, OP gets flagged for doing this... It's just weird.

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

The op is voting for $20-30/comment, it's easier for 1-2 people to flag that. When it is like $200-400 like Haejin, you need a lot of people to work together.

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hitmeasap (71) · 7 years ago

True! - But 1 or 2 would at least do something. Btw. I just voted for you. I should've done that days ago but I forgot about it.

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

I know some people have sacrificed significant stake, and are not likely the ones you would have expected.

Thanks :)

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fractalfreedom (45) · 7 years ago

Make sure no one make money Judge boy!

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hendrix22 (64) · 7 years ago

It's very weird indeed. Maybe there's more to it then I know about. I don't know who the user @haejin is and I don't know who @rancerelaxo or whatever his name is is.

I don't know who all the users with low reps defending him are. All I do know is that real users regular active Steemians with good reps are somehow choosing to defend this.

Accusations of "witch hunts", "jealousy" and "not understanding EW and TA" are being thrown around. Ovibously these are just terrible debating tactics which have been used for all time. Avoiding the situation at hand and countering with a different topic.

The matter is simple to understand and simple to see. The problem is not the content i.e. The "TA or EW charts". The problem is not a user being attacked as a "witch hunt" or big fish being "bullies".

It's simple and it's very simple. A whale account was made and funded with a large amount of SP I believe 1.3 million. Is this a problem NO. It's actually a benefit to all users. The fact is however this whale has never voted for anyone on Steemit besides @haejin.

How can regular Steemit users defend this stating that @haejin shouldn't be penalized because a whale "found him" really??
I don't think found should be the word used. If people don't see this as peculiar then I'm afraid we're in for a bigger problem. If the main goal of the @rancherorelaxo whale is to only upvote @haejins posts and nobody else's but it's in bed with @haejin then their investment goal is actually only to receive curation rewards for only @haejin. I find this hard to believe.

If I was Columbo and had to figure out this mystery and make an educated guess or accusation. I would say in my opinion again only an opinion is that:

@haejin, @ranchorelaxo and those other 25-50 accounts at least are a group of people who have developed a "scam" yes I said it a "Fucking Scam" to create content through @haejin's account and upvote it continuously while at the same time invest their own money as well as the profits generated into the @ranchorelaxo account until it becomes a whale. Once it reaches whale status to then upvote each and every one of @haejins posts to rape the reward pool and start making huge profits for the select individuals in the investing group.

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fractalfreedom (45) · 7 years ago

Teach me more master!

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investwarrior (56) · 7 years ago

i hope in hf20 they will implement what if you vote on same person you will receive no curation rewards, at least 25% will go to pool

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littleboy (72) · 7 years ago

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kokoliso (56) · 7 years ago (edited)

I think the that this is just giving us information that the whole weight voting scheme has flaws, maybe the whales have too much power

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netuoso (70) · 7 years ago

If you refer to libertyteeth as major sized, he isn't and you don't want that vote anyway

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binkley (55) · 7 years ago

Often when you stand up for the right things you will get flagged. It happens to me when I defend promotion upvote services for minnows. If the whales can rape the system daily why flag a minnow who spend hours or days writing a post and has bought advertising promotion services to try to get some extra eyeballs on a high quality post. The people flagging minnows are bullies as they never flag those big whales. They are scared to death. Something needs to be done with the next hardfork.

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hendrix22 (64) · 7 years ago

I'm actually very aware that you didn't downvote any of @haejins posts and only provided the reports on the matter.

I'm not concerned about the shills which either @haejin created or somehow came from nowhere. I'm more concerned with more reputable users who somehow fail to see the problem, choose to ignore or somehow actually think this would help the platform.

Maybe once this place is fucked the hindsight will kick in. Although I would like to see action taken to prevent rather then wait it out and play the let's see what happens game.

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fractalfreedom (45) · 7 years ago

bignose

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themarkymark (78) · 7 years ago

LOL, another Haejin groupie going around flagging people and searching really deep for an insult.

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jedigeiss (72) · 7 years ago

well i followed this quite closely and got a bit of heat also for putting the finger in the wound. nobody wanted to understand that there is something going wrong, everybody was just singing and praying somehow as if this guy would be the archbishop of a strange cult ...

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freedompoint (75) · 7 years ago

I dig your passion!

fractalfreedom (45) · 7 years ago

Welcome to flagit.com you helped so much.

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lanmower (60) · 7 years ago

would you like some rape with that rape?

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hendrix22 (64) · 7 years ago

Lol what does that even mean?

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lanmower (60) · 7 years ago (edited)

its a canola joke

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hendrix22 (64) · 7 years ago

Oh like the rapeseed plant? Lol

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lowestdefinition (45) · 7 years ago

What's the @haejin situation I keep hearing about everywhere around here?

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lanmower (60) · 7 years ago

someone had to do it

whatsup (75) · 7 years ago

lol, this is pretty funny. What is it you would like ned to do?

It is a stake based system. I am just curious about your ideas on a solution. While I am here making a meaningful comment... I might as well reward myself as well.

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 7 years ago (edited)

I don't think we should stop and wait for ned to do anything. The culture of this platform needs to change. There's money grabbing deception via inorganic voting for instance. It's a broken system. I know we have interacted on the self voting and I have chosen to opt out of that practice. I think if others had a "bigger picture" mentality that they should do the same. We have allowed mechanisms onto this platform that serve to reward stake over value of content and it is painfully apparent with even a cursory glance of the trending page.

One of the Marine Corps leadership principles is to set the example. If one is not willing to forego rewards of self voting and perhaps even use their voting power to both incentivize non-self voters as well as the more controversial option of deincentivizing overvalued content of self voters (via flagging), that aspect of the platform will by no means change. It takes more than just a handful but most people are too comfortable or I'd like to say complacent and complacency kills.

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lucky-elephant (42) · 7 years ago

Seems to me the flaws are inherent in the system. Money is power, survival of the fittest or cleverest, formation of tribes. It’s like an experiment in Anarchy. Not sure how it will end.

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago (edited)

Am I missing the call to action. What are we doing about it?

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 7 years ago

Supporting non-self voting posts is one of the best thing a minnow like me can do. I've developed a rudimentary script to determine self vote status but it's not really for the layperson. It requires the steem piston python libraries. It will return true if self voted and false otherwise.

It would be nice if I can figure out how I can integrate something like this into a Steem front end that would filter but I haven't really gotten that far in my experience with python. It may be easier just to ctrl-f from steemd but sometimes the node is unavailable so I would use this alternatively.

import sys
import time
import datetime
from piston import Steem
steem= Steem()
def check_selfvote(identifier):
steempost=steem.get_post(identifier)
votes=steempost.active_votes
author=steempost.author
votearr=[]
for vote in votes:
votearr.append(vote['voter'])
if author not in votearr:
selfvote="False"
else:
selfvote="True"
return selfvote
identifier = input('Please, enter identifier of post to determine self vote status: ')
check_selfvote(identifier)

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago (edited)

The likely hood of getting community consensus seems low to me. It also doesn't work because most Steemians have more than one account. :)

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 7 years ago (edited)

Agreed on the former. It is true that people can use alts to self vote which appears to be the case with pilgrimtraveler / explorertraveler / karengentry (I've inquired w no response). I digress. From my perspective, removing the self vote would hinder the problem albeit not fully remove it.

It may not be feasible to fully address. Scammers gonna scam.

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago (edited)

Exactly, which is addressed in the Whitepaper along with the idea if people are abusing the system the community can flag the rewards.

We have come full circle. Nice discussion.

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 7 years ago (edited)

Right, yes flagging those posts does help; however, in the current state there isn't really a compelling incentive for people to use their voting power for that purpose.

That may be the shortfall and I think we can both agree, with the rise of controversy in regard to reward pool rape, that the flagging capability seems ill equipped to fully address the problem because it is costly for those that take it upon themselves to do it. I wonder how much this recent campaign has cost Bernie for instance. Probably a pretty penny.

I've been considering more creative solutions and I think I have one heck of an idea but it needs to be refined. I know that you likely fall on the other side of the self voting issue so I hope I am not boring or annoying you too much. :) Merry Christmas by the way!

lifenbeauty (60) · 7 years ago

"While I am here making a meaningful comment... I might as well reward myself as well." :D :D :D

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troglodactyl (58) · 7 years ago

I have no problem with self-voting, and I have no problem with 'excessive' rewards on posts. At this stage, I think we need to focus on clear abuse, like content free spam and kickback collusion to get people to upvote spam and share the rewards. If the only point of the post is to harvest the rewards, I'm likely to downvote. If someone's getting $10,000 because a bunch of whales decided to upvote their thoughts on some issue I don't really care.

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lucky.steemian (49) · 7 years ago

i replied to you on the other post, I think we could build something together, but then you need to talk to me! So please answer!

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wakeupnd (68) · 7 years ago

I've got the bug too.

I think it's called Steemitfever, it's starts with looking at the price of SBD on Coinmarketcap everyday. Then you start to hallucinate from all the cryptos you could be buying right now, so you start to upvote anything and everything including your own posts and comments.

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago

That is what I am seeing and also I felt it. I felt it.

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aggroed (78) · 7 years ago

A fascinating experiment. Looking forward to seeing what happens here.

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smasssh (66) · 7 years ago

WTF IS THIS? About 2450 USD down the drain ...
This is a good example to scare off new People. Just let subscribe my son in here. One of the first things he reads is this post ...

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aggroed (78) · 7 years ago

he's calling attention to how the reward pool isn't always used well because people don't flag. it's ironic because one of the reasons people don't flag is because of revenge flagging in part by none other than the author of this post. He is lamenting against the very culture he has helped create.

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lukestokes (75) · 7 years ago

At least he's exposing weaknesses in the system by demonstrating how one high-SP account can make Steemit worse for others.

But yeah, it does seem idiotic to create something and then complain about it. Maybe it's just high-level trolling and attention seeking.

The paradox/irony is how much Bernie does support useful things like cheetahbot. I really want to believe he genuinely cares about this platform even when his words and actions demonstrate otherwise.

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago

Cheetah is another way to centralize authority and make people feel like keeping the site "clean" isn't their job. If everyone used their flags it wouldn't be so scary, but instead, they can upvote cheetah and think they are done.

Many people have earned a lot of money playing the clean up game. Maybe they should use that stake to help with abuse. Who knows.

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago

By the way, I think cheetah is a classy organization with good people, but the concept that someone else will keep the site clean is part of the reason we came this far with very little flagging.

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lukestokes (75) · 7 years ago

That's a good point, and I agree on some level. If people don't take individual, personal responsibility to protect what they value, then it creates more centralization and single points of failure.

I also think human involvement isn't always required. I love cheetahbot because it does things better than humans can. It's just the first step. The next step is steamcleaners and individuals using their downvotes as needed, using cheetahbot as a way to find things which need their attention. We don't all have to run our own cheetahbot software. That would be inefficient and the comments would start to look like spam and be worse than the problem. Economies of scale are a real thing we should appreciate as we seek decentralization.

I agree though, we each have to take personal responsibility if we have an expectation for some particular outcome.

The funny thing is, this whole post is now hidden by default which hides the scammy comments even further. Many of them are still paying out. The problem being highlighted here is how easy it is for people to abuse the system and how difficult it is to get enough people to care.

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago

You are right, I was lumping Cheetah and the rest of those services together.

I do agree they helped with some issues and created others. You got my point about personal responsibility which is where i was headed.

This whole thing is between sad and funny.

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago (edited)

Ironic, isn't it?

People don't flag because they're pussies. It's not my fault they can't buy more Steem and power up...

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aggroed (78) · 7 years ago (edited)

Like I said, it's a fascinating experiment. Your performance art performance on Steem is always entertaining. Maybe not always good for the platform, but it is entertaining. That said, at other times your vigilante flagging is amazing for this place. We're all just people doing some combination of the best for ourselves and this platform.

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lukestokes (75) · 7 years ago

Well said. :)

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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aggroed (78) · 7 years ago

Doing good for ourselves isn't a bad thing. Doing good for ourselves at the expense of everyone else is.

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cristinamuah (43) · 7 years ago

I said that exact thing very respectfully on the screaming Bernie post and got seriously downvoted. I actually decided to stay waaaayy out of all of this drama but wanted you to know that other people see that, they just end up scared to say anything because “minnow”. I hope it gets worked out before this just becomes a negative place to be. (Please don’t downvote me for sharing a feeling)

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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ryacha21 (61) · 7 years ago

What is this post meaning?

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

Yahooey!!!

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself because that's what we do here on Steemit!

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4 votes

eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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lukestokes (75) · 7 years ago

"Nobody" is factually untrue. Should more people care (specifically whales with huge investments here)? YES.

I've used up a bunch of my voting strength here (and elsewhere as I see it) to do what is expected: flag posts when there is a disagreement over rewards, and I think the poster isn't thinking in terms of the value of the network but just in terms of their own shortsighted gains. I don't do it because I don't like someone personally or don't agree with their views or approach (unless that approach is purposefully using language intended to cause pyschological harm). I'm not involved in vendettas.

The funny thing is, I actually like the visibility this post and its useless, factually untrue comments will bring to the problem of scammy abuse through self-voting content which is not valuable to the network. In that regard, it serves a purpose and may even be worth some valid rewards.

What frustrates me most with the whole "rewardspoolrape" discussion is how authors are often blamed for the voting habits of others. Unless self voting is going on or a connection between the poster and the voter can be proven, authors shouldn't be held responsible for the voluntary actions of other voters. If authors who bring content others value get called out because of votes they get, how is that their fault and what's the expected reaction? Should they stop creating valued content? That's paradoxical. If someone values this network, the last thing they should do (IMO) is motivate people to stop creating valued content.

I've tried to have discussions with @berniesanders about this type of stuff, but he blocked me in rocket chat and is unwilling to have a face-to-face video chat or even voice call. I really do like how much he cares (or claims to care) about the rewards pool, I just don't understand the approach he takes asking for @ned to somehow magically solve the problems around here or by calling out an author instead of the voters he actually disagrees with.

For what it's worth, thanks for shedding light on a problem in your unique way. If it gets you the results you want, fantastic. If not, I hope we can all work together to discuss more effective, productive approaches.

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pathtosuccess (51) · 7 years ago

@lukestokes most of the time I would agree with you about go after the voter not the person receiving the vote. In the situation with @haejin it became pretty clear the moment he started getting the huge upvotes he upped his rate of posting.

He can't control (if the whale account isn't his) when a whale gives him a large upvote anymore than he can control when one gives him a large downvote(s).

He can control how much advantage he takes of those votes. For that he needs to answer for his actions. If he doesn't want to reduce how much advantage is being taken, then other whales really should be stepping up unless they agree with what he's doing.

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lukestokes (75) · 7 years ago

I agree with you! I've posted more than once about how sometimes it makes sense for authors to do decline payout posts if they think they have been taking more of the rewards pool than is justified.

I think your argument goes both ways: if whales blindly upvote someone even when they increase their posting rate, that's still a failure of the upvoter. They should either stop upvoting or adjust the weight of their vote accordingly.

The cryptocurrency markets experienced some intense volatility recently and some may have benefitted from @haejin's increased frequency of posting. I could argue that one in either direction so I didn't get involved. I won't defend him or vilify him just yet. If he wanted to show good faith with the community, he could get the same visibility he wants with decline payout posts. My hunch is, the whales wouldn't vote for him as they'd get no curation rewards on a decline payout.

So again, the whale vote is the problem.

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

Oh Luke, there is so much more coming, people will get it by the time I'm done. The fact that you truly believe I'm wasting money and voting power on this pointless drivel for "shortsighted gains" shows just how truly ignorant you are.

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lukestokes (75) · 7 years ago

What confuses me so much about you is how much you misunderstand and twist what I say.

Did you not read "it serves a purpose and may even be worth some valid rewards"?

I called your comments "useless" because that was your exact intention, from my perspective: to demonstrate how useless, repetitive comments are selfvoted by scammers to drain the rewards pool. I clearly said what you are doing here as an experiment has value.

You and I want the same thing: for people to value and improve this network. The "shortsighted gains" I was referring to is the same abuse you are trying to stop.

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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16 votes

rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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11 votes

rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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11 votes

everything-4you (53) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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thelifeofbrian (52) · 7 years ago

lmao to true so i upvoted you .....

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ginquitti (51) · 7 years ago

Me too!!! Except my vote is nearly worthless.... lol

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investingtips (3) · 7 years ago

lol

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lanmower (60) · 7 years ago

good job you deserve a reward

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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10 votes

rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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8 votes

rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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technicalgaja (29) · 7 years ago

i'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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lanmower (60) · 7 years ago

have one from me too

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justinashby (61) · 7 years ago

I don't want to but I have to do something.. please be merciful.

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

Awesome!

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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dumar022 (70) · 7 years ago

We can expect that those who beg for upvotes will start say "rape me" instead of "upvote me"

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alktoni (61) · 7 years ago

lol

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clumsysilverdad (64) · 7 years ago

So what's your point ? (-:

reidlist (56) · 7 years ago

There is definitely an issue here, but I'm not sure what the answer is. I think it's pretty remarkable that so many of the whales in this community have really been great advocates for the platform and have acted in its best interest. The problem is, there was surely going to be some people that got in when the price was high and ransacked the place. Self upvoting in general is iffy, but that would just keep honest people honest, since there are pretty simple ways to do it anyways.

I'm not sure how this would/could be addressed but it does seem like the least Ned could do is make some sort of statement about what he thinks about the issue. Even an argument in favor of things staying the same would be better than silence I think.

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pfunk (72) · 7 years ago

This is one for the Steem community to work out rather than listen to just one guy, who has probably stayed out of the conversation for a reason.

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matthewtiii (60) · 7 years ago (edited)

I am rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares.

matthewtiii (60) · 7 years ago

I am rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares.

matthewtiii (60) · 7 years ago

I am rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares.

matthewtiii (60) · 7 years ago

I am rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares.

mirzacho (60) · 7 years ago

Hmm Great power !
would you share ?
:))))

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mirzacho (60) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself..

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lucky.steemian (49) · 7 years ago

Hello, I did reward raping myself, if you look at my posts, I had a change of minds and I want I would have some ideas I would like to present you, maybe you can just come to my discord channel and we could discuss this issue there. Lets do something together and try to keep steemit a legit place? I am just asking for a little talk! https://discord.gg/jMdKyk7

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juliakponsford (70) · 7 years ago

Well I guess the account name is relevant!
¯_(ツ)_/¯

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travelersmemoire (58) · 7 years ago

How did you get so much voting power?

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buchi (26) · 7 years ago

seriously, I have no idea what's going on

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jillfeint (58) · 7 years ago

Really, what outrage and sadness see this kind of thing, not because of your post, the truth I have understood the implicit message that this has, I am saying for the amount of pointless and pointless post that earn over $ 50 just because yes.

Also what generates these feelings in my is to know that even doing my content in English, these does not earn more than 0.04 knowing that my content in Spanish at least reaches $10 +, and i am not talking about bad content, the truth from my humble opinion and that of many people, my content is of quality and unique, since what I try to do, had not been seen in steemit or at least I do not saw it.

I know they will not read me, but I want to show my dissatisfaction, how sad it is that garbage earns more than real talent.

De verdad que indignación y tristeza ver este tipo de cosas, no por lo de tu post, la verdad he entendido el mensaje implicito que este tiene, lo digo por al cantidad de post inutiles y sin sentido que ganan arriba de 50$ solo por que sí.
También lo que me genera estos sentimientos es saber que incluso haciendo mi contenido en ingles, este no gana más de 0.04 sabiendo que mi contenido en español por lo menos llega a 5$+, no estamos hablando de cualquier contenido, la verdad desde mi humilde opinión y de la de muchas personas, mi contenido es de calidad y único, ya que lo que trato de hacer, no se había visto en steemit o por lo menos yo no lo conozco.
Igual se que no me van a leer, pero deseo mostrar mi inconformidad, que triste que la basura gane más que el talento real.

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fedesox (64) · 7 years ago

“I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!”

Bet my reward will remain $0.00

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polaleye50 (62) · 7 years ago

@rewardpoolrape the issues of reward rape must be solved so that it will not cost steemit damages. I think it is time @ned and others should come together to find lasting solution to this. Lot is good Steemians are taking their time to write quality post but got few cents out of it.

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everything-4you (53) · 7 years ago

yeh because as a new member no one look at your post.it only myself who can read my post so there is no option for new users.

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abdullahjan (37) · 7 years ago

Yes this is also my Point...

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lucky-elephant (42) · 7 years ago

I’m rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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lucky-elephant (42) · 7 years ago

I’m rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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lucky-elephant (42) · 7 years ago

I’m rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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lucky-elephant (42) · 7 years ago

I’m rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!! What larks Pip, what larks.

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lucky-elephant (42) · 7 years ago

I’m rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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abdullahjan (37) · 7 years ago

I am Waiting for solution about point mention by @rewardpoolrape.

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abdullahjan (37) · 7 years ago

Is this is acceptable for everyone to buy some SteemPower and upvote yourself like this post???

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samirbouazzoun (43) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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lanmower (60) · 7 years ago

come on you deserve a well deserved pat on your own back

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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evolved08gsr (57) · 7 years ago (edited)

Apparently this is mature and acceptable? Using delegated SP like this doesn't prove any point other than you're jealous that scammers aren't being punished, but you're apparently not willing to punish them yourself?

Why not put this SP to positive use and punish the scammers rather than give yourself more $$?

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rashley01 (49) · 7 years ago

Merry Christmas. Lol. Congrats, you give yourself a reward.

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pfunk (72) · 7 years ago

Bam

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yoginiofoz (55) · 7 years ago

"No one cares," is a pretty broad statement. Aren't you just draining funds by upvoting? If you really don't like that spammers do this, why do it yourself?

Just curious on what your real purpose is behind this brief post.

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realitycheck (47) · 7 years ago

It is a free market!!, enjoy!

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clumsysilverdad (64) · 7 years ago

So what's your point ? (-:

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coinsutra (54) · 7 years ago

The universe cares @rewardpoolrape & @eatsrewards
The universe cares...

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yaanivapeji (65) · 7 years ago

Wow!! This is a lot of reward you have given yourself @rewardpoolrape. 😁😁

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dtube (69) · 7 years ago

Using STEEM this way is basically turning it into a PoS token. Except here you are wasting your time on top of it.

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howtostartablog (65) · 7 years ago

You win

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venomnymous (66) · 7 years ago

Point taken. I'm going to resteem this but I'm not upvoting it lol

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zamon (25) · 7 years ago

Waiting for you

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bikalsiwakoti (55) · 7 years ago

You are doing wrong bro.

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techslut (70) · 7 years ago

I see your point. It makes me sad. Can I go back to my itty bitty curation earning and continue to repress this now? :(

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jedigeiss (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

the spotlight needs to be fully on this i can not agree more with your actions.
people should care more and especially whales have a special responsibility that comes with their share.
but they just dont do whats best for this plattform, which is somehow stupid since they are owning most of it ...
strange

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gmuxx (67) · 7 years ago

As much as I would like to get into the spirit of this, I am using my lowly power to spread some Christmas cheer where I can. I made a point a month ago to no longer self vote and to use my power on others, for good or bad, as the situation dictates. The haejin situation is sickening though, so more power to you for trying to combat it.

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hitmeasap (71) · 7 years ago

Haha, wow... Well, I actually can't say that I blame you. You've tried to prevent and counter this...

And that clearly doesn't work.

As people obviously defend this type of behaviour, I look forward to see how many flags you'll get. My guess is 3.

2 of them will be from your own accounts. ;)

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anik-hassan (36) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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free999enigma (67) · 7 years ago

we all should learn "great power comes with great responsibility"

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aussieninja (62) · 7 years ago

Should I be flagging the crap out of all of this? What's the best course of action here?

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foxkoit (70) · 7 years ago

:(( Every time I make a post, I give for me one Upvote , and this all what I do.
All others Upvotes ... I give away ... I not know is it bad or good... but I know what you feel. if you must make this.
But... I know that greed does not end very well over a long period of time.

And I hope your day is ok. Merry Christmas.

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mbruno (49) · 7 years ago

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theblockchang (35) · 7 years ago

I’ve just joined the platform and I totally agree with you @rewardpoolrape! To be noticed in getting the views let alone upvotes I’m continuously trying to engage more with my community and other likeminded users! Any tips you may have for starting out would be great! If you have the time

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bleedpoet (60) · 7 years ago

This is gross. Unless you've invested heavily in Steem out of pocket, or have been involved for quite awhile, the chances of a scammer building the influence required for a 20$ upvote organically is very limited, unless they are contantly up voted by whales who are also heavily invested, at which point when they act this shamelessly they would hopefully be down voted back into place.

I've taken a few chops but I'm a pen knife against a boulder.

The truth is there is nothing in the system that keeps people from working against their own best interests, that keeps people who are heavily invested from devaluing their own assets and in turn everyone else's.

I hope after your point is proven you rescind your own comment upvotes. I think it is fair to upvote your own articles, but comments should be reserved for others.

Unlike rape, you can take this back.

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 7 years ago (edited)

Yeah, kids. Let's do that thing just because everybody else is doing it! That's what this platform has become.

Meanwhile, authors with integrity and confidence inn their work not to self vote or use elevety billion bid bots fade into relative obscurity. Smh.

I have made it a point to screen most posts for self-voting before upvoting. Maybe if more did that the trending page would like a little different. Just sayin'

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budz82 (54) · 7 years ago

Steem should change it so that if/when you upvote yourself, half of the value is equally distributed to all the comments and the original poster at the end of the payout period to help better redistribute itself among the community. I know that doesn't fully fix the issue but it would help.

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steemcreate (39) · 7 years ago

REWARD ME

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netuoso (70) · 7 years ago

REWARD ME

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lifenbeauty (60) · 7 years ago (edited)

I care, because I'm a minnow who tries to post high-quality, meaningful content. However, nobody cares does a minnow care.

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vegeta (53) · 7 years ago

Why?

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tonyr (60) · 7 years ago

Very good point, well made. But why the new account to make the point?

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kartiksingh (65) · 7 years ago

@ned

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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lanmower (60) · 7 years ago

nice job

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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evolved08gsr (57) · 7 years ago

Except you're doing it with delegated SP. And a lot more of it..

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technicalgaja (29) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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sirsticks (47) · 7 years ago

Give me the reward to @rewardpoolrape I can't wait to get that asap.... Been long I made that type of cent

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yukimaru (65) · 7 years ago

Most epic thing i have read this 2017. :)

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jasonbu (61) · 7 years ago

Interested to know what I, as a lowly minnow can do, other than simply watch. I'm ineffective with a down vote with my SP level. I agree, it seems to be an issue and if left unabated and more scammers do it we all lose. What can minnows do other than resteem for awareness and watch the reward pool get raped?

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underground (67) · 7 years ago

WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMAN!!! lol
"Lowly Minnow", Eh? Why? We're both 55 and I don't think like that.
If you were a bit more in tuned to happenings here @steemit, you
would suspect that those doing this are maybe those that have
been complaining about how others do this Every Day. What you
CAN Do is check out the #steemit where this is discussed a lot.
We need help there, I'm just getting into that myself. We have
sufficient rep that we can be effective, if enough of us help.
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jasonbu (61) · 7 years ago

Agree, and am aware and have been following the issue, I use a portion of my VP to downvote as I see the issues. It comes down to rich plankton-poor minnow. The question that I think a lot of people ask -
"Do I flag this post and jeopardize my stake in a flag war?" We need to raise the visibility of rosurces to help people that flag and get caught that tyoe of spiral (and you and I might know how to reach out but do new users or lower rep users?) How do you build that into the culture as we on board new folks. See some bad crap - down vote it. Updated faq for steemitabuse or steemcleaners. Anyhow, keep up the fight and spreading the word.

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saintopic (49) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, do since nobody cares!! People do care. Do you really need to do this @rewardpoolrape

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steempolice (42) · 7 years ago

the solution to this problem is for whales to come together and create a policing unit with at least 1 million delegated power that will downvote to 0 all low effort shitty self voted/proxy voted content
stuff like this shouldn't be gettinga penny:
screenshot-steemit.com-2017-12-25-09-17-02-025.png

the last 2 are not even real interactions but bots. there's hundred of accounts farming Steem in the same way. Either we stop it now or it's game over for Steem. Pretending the problem doesn't exist is not an option anymore.

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yulem (48) · 7 years ago

Now I know how a child in a war zone feels as the fighting factions launch missiles over its head. I do hope it gets resolved peaceably before we all die!

I did try to offer some comic relief for us lowly ones in my recent post but then hardly any one saw it because that's the plight of us less than minnows. But we persist in blind hope that y'all will resolve these disparities of social rank and ills. Please don't give up.

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arcange (73) · 7 years ago

Congratulations @rewardpoolrape!
Your post was mentioned in the hit parade in the following category:

Comments - Ranked 2 with 214 comments

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everything-4you (53) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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lanmower (60) · 7 years ago

Why are you swearing at me? You shouldnt abuse your fellow steemians. If it werent for them youd have nothing to rape.

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aliakbar2 (54) · 7 years ago

Why you are rewarding yourself help someone too

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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8 votes

eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

But, but, you're a terrible Steemian for rewarding yourself!

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

But, but, you're a terrible Steemian for rewarding yourself!

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself because that's what we do here on Steemit!

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

But, but, you're a terrible Steemian for rewarding yourself!

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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unicron (48) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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mirzacho (60) · 7 years ago

You are rock !!!

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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jasonbu (61) · 7 years ago

Down vote cause I care but I'm like a wet noodle. See, barely any impact. Sigh Carry on.

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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unicron (48) · 7 years ago

I'm rewarding myself, just like the scammers do since nobody cares!!

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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rewardpoolrape (62) · 7 years ago

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eatsrewards (59) · 7 years ago

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