Did Someone Say 'Hold It'? || @steemit Is Powering Down - What Would You Do With $71.4 Mio Steem?

in roadmap2018 •  7 years ago  (edited)
It means opportunity. It means that there's been growth, and I'm excited to see it be worth a lot more. - Ned Scott

That was what Steemit's CEO answered when being asked by Andrew McMillen about the meaning of his $3.5 Mio US Dollar worth Steemit account during the Fire Side Chat at Steemfest². By the way thanks to Steem's all time high, @ned's account is worth more than $21 Mio USD today.

If 'holding' was the strategy back in November 2017, why is the official @steemit account powering down $71.4 Mio SP ($414 Mio USD) only two months later? Are the private financial strategy and the business strategy of Steemit's CEO not concordant? Do the pending projects such as the launch of Smart Media Tokens need to be some financial support?

How exciting!

I accidentally stumbled upon @smooth's new Steem Experiment where @pollux.one commented that the @steemit account had started its power down. I once more recognized how important it is to actually read articles and not just send out my voting bots :-)

So the largest stakeholder clandestinely hit the power down button. In a couple of hours almost $5.5 Mio SP will be turned into liquid Steem. Wham! What a way to start the New Year, isn't it?

What do you think where's the money going?

@surfermarly literally holding Steem

Pay day!

What would I do with $71.4 Mio Steem?

Counter question: How much time do I have to reply?

There are several projects in the pipeline that are going to be built on the Steem blockchain in the near future. In the end they're all supposed to contribute to the overall growth of Steem.

Having Smart Media Tokens being named as Steemit Inc's top priority in 2018 most likely that's where the money's going to go.

Steem had an incredible start into 2018. Since Steemfest² the price has been sextupled. Precisely on the 1st of January it started to take off and seems to be keeping up around $5-6 USD during the past 10 days.

As many of us are exchanging their SBD for other cryptocurrencies in order to multiply their property during this all time high and then reinvest in Steem, Steemit Inc may have also considered to take advantage of the convenient price situation.

Still they supposedly may not consider investing in other coins :-)

Obviously when the largest stakeholder decides to power down, that may have a bigger impact on the overall situation of Steem. I have no idea if selling such a large amount of Steem at the exchanges could have an immediate impact on the price.

According to coinmarketcap.com during the past 24 hours there has been a total trading volume of $35.298.500 USD. @steemit would have $31.88 Mio USD in liquid Steem available in a couple of hours. So that'd be more or less 90% of the 24-h-volume.

Wherever the money's going to go, it will surely have a certain impact.

Now back to the initial question: what would I do with all that money?

Well I've been a huge fan of the community feature that was announced in the Roadmap 2017.

It was planned to be introduced in Q3/2017, but then SMTs turned the whole agenda upside down.

So if I was in charged, I'd probably invest parts of the money in a faster development of that feature since it was celebrated like no other one in the past months.

I know that below the tag #roadmap2018 there were a lot of cool ideas submitted, but I really don't believe that there is anything more desired than the community feature.

From my conversations with other Steemians I know that there are a lot of people waiting for it. Being able to bundle common interests and group in sub-communties would be simply groundbreaking for the community's activity, thus also incentivate the social interaction. Now that the network has some issues with user retention in general, that feature could definitely be a huge step into the right direction.

Warning: Steem users are merciless - turn your presentation into a product pitch and they will walk out on your talk.

That was one of the points in the checklist for our Steemfest² speeches. Since then I had been thinking a lot about that first part "Steem users are merciless".

That's actually true. We can be really pain in the ass sometimes.

But in the end we do for one simple reason: we care.

We care about the future of this place, and that's the only reason why we have so many questions and suggestions. Let's see if the big mystery of the big power down is going to be clarified soon. I really believe that transparency has never been a bad strategy in business...

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Here is the answer what they did with parts of the powerdown - They supported applications or services supporting steem:

https://steemit.com/steemit/@penguinpablo/daily-steem-stats-report-steemit-is-powering-down-and-up

;)

Upvoting this for visibility, since it is very positive news I think!

Best statement in @penguinpablo's article:

Shouldn't Steemit Inc. be a bit more transparant to the community about their plans with so much STEEM?

Yes they should without any doubt.

My best guess is that some of their business contracts with early SMT investors require @steemit to sell them STEEM directly, so that they don't spike the market by buying in the amounts they need for the projects to not hit bandwidth limitations.

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Other reasons could be to diversify SP holding to few more accounts for different purposes. @steemit has already made few accounts such as @misterdelegation, @steemit2 to diversify actions (delegations, payments to devs, marketing etc.).

May be decentralizing of stake is taking place. (Source: Steemit Inc. 2017 Roadmap Review)

This is, without doubt, the biggest failure in what has otherwise been a decent year for Steemit Inc. There was little to no effort at decentralizing Steemit Inc's stake. Some delegations went out to select individuals or projects, but this was done in an absolutely non-transparent, non-inclusive and yes, centralized, manner. Of course, I'm sure this could be justified, like many other misses on the list, by "we're not ready yet", but nevertheless, it has missed the roadmap target. A complete disappointment, and I would hope to see major strides made on this front in 2018.

That would be a great explanation. One would hope that if it were to achieve already established priorities, like decentralization of SP holdings, then @steemit would be a little more forthcoming with information about their actions.

That sounds like a logical correlation! Great adding, thank you.

Very insightful, Joseph. Thanks.

Ich danke dir für diesen Beitrag! Stell' dir vor, ich habe ihn gelesen und bin dadurch auch auf den Beitrag von @smooth aufmerksam geworden.
Dem Powerdown von @steemit sehr ich sehr entspannt entgegen, denn es ist prinzipiell gut, wenn sich die Coins gleichmäßiger verteilen. Dafür nehme ich gerne mal einen Kursrückgang in Kauf. Schauen wir mal, was passiert. Morgen wissen wir es.
Zu deiner Frage, was ich mit einer derartigen Menge von Coins anfangen würde, fällt mir spontan nichts ein. Wahrscheinlich irgendetwas nettes. Bestimmt würde ich mir mit einem Verkauf nicht den Kurs kaputt machen lassen. Kein Halter großer Positionen auch bei Aktien kann diese über die Börse freihändig liquidieren, ohne sich selbst zu schaden.

Sehr gerne!
Ich hoffe nicht, dass es zu einem Kursrückgang kommt. Du weißt ja: Haus bauen und so :-)
Du sagst es: morgen wissen wir ggf. mehr!

The most probable reason I found to explain it, that for the SMT there has to be SP purchased and freezed again in the new accounts. So it would be a "good" thing. Still a tiny thing of ... let's call it "info" would have been quite nice and (hopefully) I could have sleep much better.

Any stock corporation in the world has to inform their stake holders about such money transfers. Obviously these rules don't apply for crypto businesses (yet). I wonder why.

Crypto is an easy way for institutions like governments to track money laundering operations and other gray and black market activity, they've let it go on for a while because they know people slip up when they cash out big which is why they've waited until now to request information on accounts from banks and exchanges in places like Japan, Australia, the US, and so on. All records being kept on the blockchain make their jobs easier. The trap hasn't been sprung yet in some places, but without a doubt it's inevitable. Regulation scares away such users of financial instruments which is why many regions have been slow to move, knowing that their currencies' stabilities are generally not at risk (yet).

They don’t need to inform someone, everyone can read it in the Blockchain. At least for steem everything is public :)

Thanks for the lesson. It's on the blockchain after taking place, correct. But their vision, strategy and plans are not on the blockchain. That's what investors might be rather interested in :-)

Yea it's not the best marketing, but at least they can't hide anything :)

You just never know but if you are on this ride you better trust it at this point. 🚀

Informativer Post! Mal schauen wos hingeht! Ich muss ganz ehrlich sagen, ich wüsste garnicht was ich mit so viel Geld anstellen soll...

Danke Dir! Der Gedanke war genau der: informieren :-)
Privat wüsste ich sofort, was ich mit dem Geld tun würde: ein Haus bauen. Aber das kostet selbst bei moderner Ausstattung keine 400 Millionen Euro :-D

Thats a butt load of money coming out of the system, curious what it will be used for. Whales just keep getting fatter right now lol

Haha, maybe it's leaving the system to be introduced again. Who knows?

Transparency is the definitely supreme trait for the Quality. From your yesterday's blog I learnt what is the basic vision of Steemit and in today's blog you taught me business strategy and flow of Market.

Thanks for guiding us in a more best way.

More Strength to you , Stay Blessed

Happy Steeming!

It's good to hear that you're enjoying my blog in such way. I'm just trying to provide some valuable content :-)

Much appreciated, You're inspiring many with your valuable content Marly :)

I love the steem coin you’re holding! ;) I cannot wait for the community feature!!

Me neither! I really believe that this feature will be able to change a lot.
That Steem coin is my little treasure I was given at Steemfest². After the Night of Steem, queuing at the checkroom, suddenly @virtualgrowth put it in my hand. Great moment to remember! :-)

I need to start saving up for Steemfest3!

We will have another coin coming out in the next few months as well!

Can't wait.

I noted the powering down a week ago. I guess the powering down (of 26 millions, not the whole 74) will be stopped after the first week, that would mean 2millions. and I hope the money is for hiring people for the SMT project.
I know, I'm very optimistic ^^

Thanks for the adding! I didn't know that the information on the wallet was so imprecise. Now we know: the power down was made on 65,958,745.59 SP and they have 5,496,512.514 liquid STEEM in their wallet now.

Very important questions answered in an amazing way. You have rightly pointed out the reservations of big share holders. It's a very useful information for common steemians.

Ha, thanks for the flowers! I tried to respectfully touch a highly explosive topic. It seems that I found the right way to do that. Cool!

Yes topic is highly sensitive but your efforts are worth appreciating:)

I’m not particularly concerned. @steemit powers down and converts some SP into Steem. @steemit then sends it to @steemit2 which sends it to @steem which uses it to create new accounts, delegating each a bit of Steem.

No big deal as far as I can see.

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Duh. I had not looked back far enough when I checked the account at steemd.com

If I had, I would have seen that you were talking about this from seven days ago:

Start power down of 71,453,545.309 STEEM

Whoa.

Haha, well the first 1/13 are only 5.5. Mio (about 31 Mio USD). Peanuts! :-D

I would say there are using it to grow the network or maybe they are getting ready to advertise.

You mean advertising SMTs? I thought that was their no. 1 priority now.

I've been off for a bit, how is that going? And how are you, it's been some time.

I'm doing great, thanks! :-) Hope you're doing fine, too.
Actually I have no idea how all these projects are going. There have been no official announcements after Steemfest², and I'm not a member of the relevant chat rooms :-)

I guess they are working hard on it, it seems like a big project. If it goes well it could really increase the price of the coin. Glad you are doing great :), I'm good as well.

I dont think they released the protocol as of yet.

It appears it is still in the works.

I've told so many people about Steem and Bitshares. With the current volatility in the market, we are so lucky to have a good team that we've seen in action for a while. Also, the fact that they have created multiple blockchains is pretty incredible. Notice how steady Steem has been in comparison to many other currencies. Yes, it goes up and down, but in the long run it is growing and we are all part of that growth. I think it is very exciting to be a part of this during the early stages.

I believe that Steem has great value and I continue to hold it for its value. As far as the "power down" my mind is a blank, Lol!

Communities are so important.

Communities around a particular area of interest like the very active Homesteading Community on steemit can be very important for improving user retention.

I have also been writing today about local geographical communities. In my past life I set up and ran one of the UK's first and largest online local community networks. It peaked at 300,000 users before Facebook arrived on the scene.

I believe building local communities on the steem blockchain with local people being rewarded to create local content could be a hundred times more powerful.

Thanks a lot for discuss about crypto...awesome

Powering down does not imply any negative intention, rather than going to the banks to raise capital for some pressing projects, they decided to take part of their stake. I mean its just normal, we all will power down someday.

I mean its just normal, we all will power down someday.

Some of us already do: https://steemdown.com. Current total amount of withdrawing: $30 Mio USD.

Hmmm, good question, very mysterious. That 7 million gets divided in to 13 weeks right? They could be taking a little bit out, maybe to delegate? And to use for SMT's? who knows, maybe they're buying a country lol. I see they've been sending Steem to an account called @steemit2

With that kind of money on the table, and seeing the growth over the last year, I would almost be certain that this powering down is taking place to invest more in the ecosystem, otherwise this will be seen as a pump and dump. I don't think this is the case. Thanks for sharing!

You're welcome and I'm pretty sure that this is the reason.

Wow, that is a lot of steem-power to power down! Now I'm very curious to what steam wedding plans to do with these funds. Thanks for getting the word out on this @surfermarly!

This is exciting, I think. I had no idea of what was going on till I stomped on your post, which I am very glad I did.
I don't really know exactly how this will affect Steem blockchain but from what I understand from reading your post, is that there are going to be a lot of improvements in this community, which really excite me.

I guess we will find out shortly what this means and we can all learn from it.

I love that you have the steem coin, that is so cool and maybe one day I'll own one too.

Thanks for sharing this with us @surfermarly

This is a very nice post. It will help me a lot to steemit. Thanks for your post ...
@nithil

We should care. We are all invested in this platform one way or another. Yeah, some folks are just here to bleed out a few pennies. But most of the serious users are in for the long haul. These are valid questions to ponder.

That is a massive Power Down and i guess the money might go to SMTs and it will be clarified soon by the @steemdev team.

What i would do with that insane Steem? I really have no answer since am still a crypto newbie hehehe.

It was interesting to read, I'm going and reading one more time.
Thank you! I am waiting for the next post. :)

Ah gut, dann kommt ja so ein Feature, wie ich mir das vorgestellt hab.^^ Sehr schön. Gut, so nen Insider zu kennen. Was das Power Down auslöst, da bin ich auch gespannt. Ist ja eigentlich nur ein Bruchteil. Aber was für eins!

Thanks a lot for discuss about crypto update ..Carry on your activity and focus your all creativity in steemit..Thanks for sharing...

Maybe the need liquid steem to create new user accounts. If someone creates a new account on steemit.com they have to pay the witnesses a fee for the account creation process.

I believe its going into the SMT dev and launch

I’m still fairly new to steemit, what does powering down mean and why is that a good thing? I’m not sure exactly what all this means.

Powering down used to take over 100 weeks to prevent dumping, but after a change powering down takes 13 weeks. Basically you're "cashing out" your steem power. You can't sell steem power on the markets but you can certainly sell or buy steem or sbd. They're implying that one of many things could be happening, and they are hoping that the powering down that's taking place for such a large sum of money means that whatever steem they sell is going to be converted to cash (or other coins) that will be used to fund further development of things related to SMTs. Smart media tokens are all of the token-based projects and apps you see talked about sometimes elsewhere on steemit.

Thanks for providing such a detailed answer :-)

Nice Reporting!

I think this is good for the ecosystem. At the very least - we have more steem being distributed to more people which is good overall for the continuing...growing network effects of steem and steemit.

smt's will be interesting as possible value added layering's for participation...stacking good on top of good. seems like a strong point of organizing the development of community participation.

the future is indeed bright with possibilities. Surfs Up and Hang Ten! We got some Fibonacci's at play here :)

cheers @surfermarly

Wow so nice.

I don't know much about economics and things like that, but it goes without saying that a large sell-off of steem would bring the value of steem down.

seems very helpful to me!

Well let us hope for the best !That this gets back to the system !
We do really believe in this system and have really high hope for this system !

So it's still a mystery why the power down? I don't like secrets

The market price has tanked along the the general crypto market.

to pay the debts in fiat world

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Since most of the $70+ Mio STEEM is flowing back into the market, it´s not necessarily a bad thing - if done right, it could push the volume and prices, which in the end, is the best marketing possible. Ok... I´m still in my honeymoon phase, so I´ll see everything positive - I guess I´m biased... :D

I agree that transparency would be better - But maybe they need some liquid cash for further development?

And one other thing - If their account has less SP, it is at least spread amongst more people in the long run.

That was also my thinking about the power down - more development or paying their staff? There can be a lot of reasons behind this. I am not worried about this particular one.

I thought @steemit2 was the account to pay staff but who knows.
The only reason why I don't worry about the numbers is the fact that I haven't ever invested in Steem :-) If my money was in here I'd like to be informed.

If their account has less SP, it is at least spread amongst more people in the long run.

If they're really planning to sell their share, Steem price would be affected considerably. Before thinking about a fair distribution we should be aware of the immediate consequences.

I have no idea what the money is for. That's why I wrote this post :-)

I'm not entirely with you here - I value the longterm consequences over the immediate ones ;)

And I think they are smart enough to not let the price drop huge by selling millions at a time - The account with the most losses in case of a huge drop would be themselves!

I have no idea what the money is for.

Me neither obv. I just think this post looks a little bit panicking and panic could harm the price even more!

So I guess we will just have to trust them here - As long as they, sadly, don't make an announcement about it.

I'm the last person panicking here. I'm powering down by myself since a couple of weeks :-) Steem's gonna build me a nice new house.

I just thought it could be interesting for investors to know where the money's going.

So glad you touched on this @surfermarly . I had to read it a few times to wrap my head around it. It is scary to see that the interests of the person and the business apparently don't align but I like our explanation and excitement. I for one don't care about the price of steem but I do care how the behavior those with a lot of it behave during fluctuations. I've only been paying attention during the upswing so this is my first real experience watching the markets crash. I'm just you are monitoring it and have opinions on whats happening.

I specially agree with the social interaction. Groups would be a real boost as well as lists. Also I think the UX of steemits needs to be better as well as the design of the profile page which is nothin impressive