Update on your favorite reward pool rapist.

kevinwong (76) · 7 years ago (edited)

Could it be that haejin has perfected porn for crypto traders? Or something like European soccer? It's boring af imo, yet many people are into it and paying top dollars.

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dahlsom (44) · 7 years ago

lol. I do like my soccer and my TA... so you may be onto something here.

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

I said the other day something similar. #CryptoPorn

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

Don't forget who started the #CryptoPorn trending either. Also if really want to laugh, click it & go watch the chitty video.

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artopium (66) · 7 years ago

Well, it looks like something significant has happened because this post hasn't been flagged by the haejin cult in 3 days and Haejin's posts cannot be found in the top of the Trending category. Hmmm. Anybody care to illuminate?

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introvertspeaks (51) · 7 years ago

That's when a cult predator meets its submissive preys in a valley of decentralized jungle.

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artopium (66) · 7 years ago

Nah

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baicai (25) · 7 years ago

我喜欢我的教练

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doublejump (38) · 7 years ago

#cryptotitties

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silentscreamer (69) · 7 years ago

Take my crypto but leave my football alone! 😁

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jamesford (52) · 7 years ago

Dang, those are some big numbers. Do you think something like that has an effect on the value of the steem dollar? If so he needs to cut it out because its fallen like 6 bucks since i started in december

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jesseluther (45) · 7 years ago

Can you explain this in noob terms? Don't understand your issue with @haejin.

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eudhson (25) · 7 years ago

Não entendo nada desse steemit.

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verbalmilk (41) · 7 years ago

Thanks for the question Jesseluther. I am brand new here as well-dont know any of the characters personally. But this topic seems to be all over the place. I will read the answer below and try to understand for myself. lol

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baejin (0) · 7 years ago

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jesseluther (45) · 7 years ago

Still don't get it, why exactly is he getting flagged? I can understand if he's manipulating things to NOT get flagged, that's not good, but why is he getting flagged in first place? What's the root of the issue?

The shill accounting? Shouldn't this somehow be built into Steemit, to protect against this? Maybe block same IPs from voting for yourself? Or block self-voting?

The technical analysis is very good IMO (of course sometimes spectacularly off), and I am one of the top % alt traders out there....

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artopium (66) · 7 years ago

Man, this shit goes waaaaay back. Parts of it are personal. The root of the issue is this:

Do you agree with self-voting?
Do you agree with automated self-voting?

Haejin is utilizing that fact that the platform is open and self-policing. There is no centralized authority figure on Steemit to impose any regulations, so users are given the option of flagging to use their own vote power to diminish another's rewards. That brings us to the last point:

Do you think Steemians have the moral and ethical characteristics necessary for self-policing?

Many people on Steemit feel that Haejin's actions are immoral and economically detrimental to the platform in the long-run.

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15 votes

secondstar (49) · 7 years ago

Actually, there is a system for fixing this... and none of those in the power position to exercise it are doing so (likely because he's a sock puppet account of one of them... or they have sock puppet accounts scattered around doing the exact same thing).

It's very simple... there just needs to be an update to the code that limits how much power one vote (as a percent of the reward pool) can have, ever. Put a cap on it. It's actually somewhat unreasonable that one whale vote, no matter how much is invested/saved, can ever be thousands of dollars... unless maybe that was the intent of the engineers who built it the whole time... as a wealth generation tool more than a content platform.

Think about it.... they make it (with this glaringly exploitable feature) and hype up how it's all open, self policed, and votes are all about "curation" and encouraging good content... then, once STEEM/SBD gets a nice fat value, they can use everyone having bought into that to REALLY cash in for all of their work building it and hyping it.

It's literally built into the system... lol. Hell, the self-vote checkbox is checked by DEFAULT even... lol.

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10 votes

artopium (66) · 7 years ago

AH! What you don't realize is that Steemit is capitalistic by design, and runs on a decentralized and open market plaform. What you are suggesting is considered to be a "centrally authoritative change" and many are against it. Many who have come to steemit are venture capitalist investors who are hardcore capitalist. Not very many people, including Steemit Inc, would aprove of the changes you suggest s they are essentially "socialist" in nature.

I agree with you, however, in that a power distribution based on a curve rather than linear would be better overall. The true power of the platform should be held by dolphins, not whales.

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4 votes

secondstar (49) · 7 years ago

Precisely. Hajin is simply one of those same Venture Capitalists. You notice that these flag accounts specifically pick on other whales "not in the founders club" to chastise. They're not "trying to make a better platform"... they're "eliminating the competition". AND cashing in on it as they go by playing the altruism card of "we're doing it for YOU, upvote and support us!"

It's just another money making racket... but one that singles out victims to attack rather than genuinely creating valuable content.

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brainnipper (50) · 7 years ago (edited)

That's so ironic: being against social behaviour and using a social platform. They must have got something wrong. Being fair has nothing to do with being a socialist. It calms me down, that this post got so many upvotes.

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secondstar (49) · 7 years ago

Until B.sanders notices it and comes along and flags me for it.... i'm sure. his auto-flagger has had a field day with me recently for calling out such things.

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jason7282 (61) · 7 years ago

Basically he is taking advantage of the system which isn't right but you have to do what you have to do to pay the bills right? He isn't 100% right but no one can be that accurate. Creating Elliott waves in crypto is extremely hard. Since he post the most updates out of everyone it's only a matter of time till a few fail and some don't. He does state he isn't a financial advisor. New crypto investors must pay their fees. Sometimes you win sometimes you loose thats the school fees.

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pixelprince (39) · 7 years ago

Interesting breakdown, I appreciate that.

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

Screenshot (16)_LI.jpg

Here's the perfect example. How many people do you know that make $40,000 in a week? I've never made made $200,000 in my whole life. He makes that in under 2 months on here.

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5 votes

fechaugger (48) · 7 years ago

People making big money here, isn't what I'm having a problem with.
It's that the content provided isn't worth the 200K.

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bivar-asp (34) · 7 years ago

shit shit shit, 40,000$ in a week😭😭😭

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alao (64) · 7 years ago

Dude... he makes $100k a week by posting "analysis". How can you not see that as abusive to the system. If you look at his community index on steemworld.org he is 60% upvoting himself vs other users.

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jesseluther (45) · 7 years ago

I don't see how that's abusive to the system at all. Folks on YouTube make millions posting toy unwrapping videos. Is that abusive? Open your mind bro.

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alao (64) · 7 years ago (edited)

People who earn on YouTube have hundreds of millions of views and that money is not being generated out of thin air. It's based on advertising here. On steemit there is none. People like him are just gaming the system. Open your mind bro

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jesseluther (45) · 7 years ago

Huh? This comment makes no sense.

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alao (64) · 7 years ago

I typed it to fast. Updated it to respond to your comment.

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introvertspeaks (51) · 7 years ago (edited)

Folks on YouTube make millions posting toy unwrapping videos. Is that abusive? Open your mind bro.

You clearly don't understand what you are talking about bro. I suggest you read some fundamentals on the Steem ecosystem before comparing apple and orange. Open your mind bro.

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jesseluther (45) · 7 years ago

Already did, that's how I formed my opinion. You've failed to make a convincing argument otherwise.

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introvertspeaks (51) · 7 years ago

Oh no! I've been witnessing to this internal manipulation involving @haejin long before you registered for a Steem account.

So tired of this shit! Really, very tired at chatting to his blind followers in the comment section.

This is what happens when crypto trading becomes a religion.

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spiritualmatters (55) · 7 years ago

Shouldn't this somehow be built into Steemit, to protect against this?

@jesseluther, I don't know why...maybe it's your profile pic...but I somehow believe you just might be @haejin...lol...

You're obviously asking questions that have fueled this feud for months.

Smh...rme...l'ing ol ;+)!

Peace.

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jesseluther (45) · 7 years ago

I'm not Haejin. I'm a fellow TAer that thinks his analysis is excellent when taken moment to moment as TA should be (most people on in crypto have no business day trading, they buy and baghold, and that's probably why they don't like him, IMHO).

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spiritualmatters (55) · 7 years ago (edited)

that thinks his analysis is excellent

He has a disclaimer that his work is for 'entertainment' purposes only. That said, it is interesting to apply as a 'tool' for reading charts; which, he's made a niche for himself doing.

Love him or not so much, he's raking in the big bucks. As far as I know, he's not scamming anyone out of money; just, as they say, 'raping' the rewards pool...aka...not playing 'fair'.

Speaking of not playing fair, that seems to be common ground if, what's said about some whales is true.

@jesseluther, as noted, this has been going on for months; and, @haejin is so busy raking in the cash, he doesn't 'waste' time defending himself. This is his way of making a living.

If he was breaking the 'rules' I believe he would have been zeroed out in rank by now; but, he remains at current, an impressive SEVENTY FIVE.

Glad to know you're not @haejin. It was fun for a little why to think you might be; but, I should have known better than think he'd waste his 'time is money' mentality on such novelty.

Peace.

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jesseluther (45) · 7 years ago

Agreed with your analysis.

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spiritualmatters (55) · 7 years ago

✌!

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jesseluther (45) · 7 years ago

Also, don't get whats wrong with selling your post rewards to BTC, USD etc., isn't that the point of Steemit?

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13 votes

pandasquad (58) · 7 years ago

Hi jessluther, unrelated question here, how did you get your comment voted on through minnow booster? When I try it says we don't vote on comments.

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jesseluther (45) · 7 years ago

not following, please feel free to follow up

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11 votes

pandasquad (58) · 7 years ago

Whenever you comment you get loads of upvotes from people selling their votes to minnow booster but just realised they do a different comment service to their bidding bot. So I figured it out. Thanks for the reply though :)

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monajam (70) · 7 years ago

I upvoted this to earn curation rewards, but I unvoted it; sorry, I don't want to be flagged by him and you.

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3 votes

brokendreams (51) · 7 years ago

At least someone has common sense in here, don't wanna get involved too, let the kids fight ;)

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monajam (70) · 7 years ago

Well-said :)

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acrowland (42) · 7 years ago

I don't understand it to get into the comments just sitting here reading and learning the flagging and all seems to be done maliciously in more times than not. These wars really are a strange beast on steemit aren't they?

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brokendreams (51) · 7 years ago

Yep, indeed and instead of helping each other they represent greed and distrust of mankind, what a shame. IMHO that's not the purpose of Steem but a good reason to walk the other direction.

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acrowland (42) · 7 years ago

agreed

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georgeargyrousis (11) · 7 years ago

I recently flagged posts from @heijin and he has flagged 5hours worth of content that I have spent creating on my steemit Blog. To be honest I used to support him in the beginning being new to the platform. I didn't necessarily agree with his TA as it seemed really repetitive with no real value to the reader. The reason that I flagged his post is due to the comments being posted. There seems to be a huge audience that takes what he says for granted without putting any thought to it. I can agree that heijin is indeed giving disclaimers at every single post...but it is not enough. I do not want to see every single post of his getting flagged and I am not angry at the guy. I am just sad to see manipulation in a platform meant for users by users. People with power on the platform can literally ruin other's people's work that they disagree with and I am afraid that it's gonna stay like this unless we ALL do something about it.

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uglyhat (33) · 7 years ago

it is the followers fault if they blindly follow his advice. Also i dont think his TA is bad at all.

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proofmaster (60) · 7 years ago

I think I am a bit lost here. He is collaborating with Bittrex but you have pending upvote bids from Bittrex on some major upvoting bots

Maybe I didn't understand something correctly?

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albertvhons (64) · 7 years ago

bittrex is not bidbots

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alao (64) · 7 years ago

Someone is sending SBD from Bittrex to the bots. Bittrex is not working with them.

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projectenergy (26) · 7 years ago

I don;t think I have seen his TA right ever; I think you are right.

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safetony (47) · 7 years ago

waiting for the flags to come but I agree he posts way to much, upvotes own posts and is usually wrong

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mikefromtheuk (56) · 7 years ago

This vote bot system confuses me, but I can tell it's fucked up.

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najoh (70) · 7 years ago

His account rancho bought for 5 million USD of STEEM, he wants to ROI. Kind of normal I would say. Even if we don't like the fact that he makes shit loads of money for nothing, he paid for that power.

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metalbrushes (61) · 7 years ago

wow crazy

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bluewinter (57) · 7 years ago

He is stealing our reward !

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holabebe (52) · 7 years ago

lets bring him down !

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procaptainjoe (53) · 7 years ago

i mean he posts some TA stuff but why does it matter, not like 200k will effect the entire Steemit market. Just leave him alone, who cares! he can do what he wants with his profile , and you can do what you want with yours! just post the best stuff you can to the platform and hope for the best. Steemit with be a hit regardless. Just let him do him, and you can do you! i guess if you doing you is bashing him for doing him then idk! maybe just spend the money and buy his account :P hahaha

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introvertspeaks (51) · 7 years ago (edited)

You must be a retarded motherfucker noob who doesn't know shit, aren't you?

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profchydon (60) · 7 years ago

Why is this post receiving so manu upvote from bots courtesy of @bittrex?

Really wondering what's going on.

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artopium (66) · 7 years ago

If I were to take a guess @baejin is being supported by a few anti-haejin whales that must have just discovered this account. It looks to me like @berniesanders may have something to do with the high upvote value on this post, possible by transferring money directly from bittrex to a bot. Best guess. But I give this post only a few more hours before it's discovered by the pro-haejin whales and bots and we will probably see it flagged into oblivion. Could be a good show. I'm getting the popcorn right now.

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alucardgusto (25) · 7 years ago

(Unrelated question from a noob steemian.) Can someone else diminish the steem you are "powering down" by flagging posts? I am so intrigued by steem at the moment

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baah (61) · 7 years ago

no, only the rewards of a post before the payout is affected or can be affected by the flag.

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naseerbhat (55) · 7 years ago

@baejin
Now i see why is this in the trending feeds as it has fully supported by auto bots..keep this work up.

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jerrybanfield (74) · 7 years ago

Thank you bittrex for making a transfer to me for an upvote of 24.39% on this post!

Half of your bid goes to @budgets which funds growth projects for Steem like our top 25 posts on Steem!

The other half helps holders of Steem power earn about 60% APR on a delegation to me!

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5 votes

therealtblgk (42) · 7 years ago

@jerrybanfeild i will try your upvoting when i get my sbd back in a few days thanks for helping the community!!

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laramrm (50) · 7 years ago

Good¡

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braduc (29) · 7 years ago

good luck with your strategy !

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umaira-karlinda (28) · 7 years ago

Good post brother
@baejin

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pablovicentec (25) · 7 years ago

its spam, voteup.

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myklovenotwar (61) · 7 years ago

Wow I have so much to learn. I don't understand how this user could be scamming you... Or is it the whole system that is getting scammed? Whatever it looks like they are making a lot of money on whatever scam they are pulling.

Oh so Noob 😜

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https://www.steemnow.com/@haejin

mornevd (7) · 7 years ago

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thatanimesnob (48) · 7 years ago

The greatest snake oil merchant of the crypto era

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3 votes

founounhamza (25) · 7 years ago

Nice theme, continue your work
Good luck

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dorvax (25) · 7 years ago

what is this??? I can't understand. smell like scam

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logicknot (34) · 7 years ago

"Reward pool rapist" haha

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slyde (48) · 7 years ago

By my count, he is depriving us all tiny fishes from getting fragments of the Rewards and only one Whale have i seen Combating this Menace; @berniesanders ! Only if other whales could wakeup and kick that scoundrel off this platform!

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pitboy (55) · 7 years ago

Omg!!! Look at noganoo! Digital judo kick... :O

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sami100 (31) · 7 years ago

Can you explain this in noob terms?@sami100

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kuttlefishx (37) · 7 years ago

I don't fully understand how the reward pool works, but it seems to me that a lot of filling is being taken from the Rhubarb pie, and talking the glass of milk that was offered.
Thank your for being on the watchtower for the takers.
Cheers
K

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xerovlade123 (43) · 7 years ago

uhmmmmm.... hmmmmmmm, yeah?

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bojidar (25) · 7 years ago

Why all that drama ? You do it for money or ?

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baejin (0) · 7 years ago

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baejin (0) · 7 years ago

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postpromoter (63) · 7 years ago

You got a 28.40% upvote from @postpromoter courtesy of @bittrex!

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dima123 (29) · 7 years ago

subscribe to me please bro

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pablovicentec (25) · 7 years ago

this is spam, let's report it, vote to continue working

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kil (46) · 7 years ago

Good

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spiritualmatters (55) · 7 years ago

In truth, @haejin regards himself as an 'entertainer'.

I admit, I am 'amused' by his Elliott Waves explanation.

That said, I've long believed Steemit is an AI experiment to see how long before people's actions/infighting cause a 'world' collapse...lol.

I hope I'm wrong; but, @haejin's actions, no matter how debatable in terms of ethics, is obviously not crossing any foul lines, as he remains whale status...love him...or maybe, not so much.

In truth, Steemit is not for the person who is vulnerable to scams. While there aren't 'many', there certainly are enough to drain your account. (lol).

Peace.

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introvertspeaks (51) · 7 years ago (edited)

All of @haejin's followers are a bunch of morons who are expected to buy some snake oil sold at street magic show. This is what happens when crypto trading becomes a religion.

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spiritualmatters (55) · 7 years ago

expected to buy some snake oil

In 'defense' of @haejin....by free will, I might add. He acknowledges that he's an entertainer. Some people like to be 'entertained'. Some people pay to see a game, others, Elliott Waves...lol...

To each his own, as @haejin continues to hold the attention of his crowds, while choosing to not HODL...;+)

Peace.

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martinf (33) · 7 years ago (edited)

But is it, 70% of his followers are sheep, i have seen them begging him to do videos for a coin even thou Bitcoin is crashing, when it is clear to anyone that that coin is going down and staying down until Bitcoin rises.

Blame his followers not him. Haejin is just putting content on steemit that people want to read. Thus he gets paid.

Also is has taking 1000s of people to steemit as well. You cant diss him, crypto is a market that could have a short shelf life, Haejin is just making as much money as he can.

Its called captilism. Even you are making money of him...lol

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alcatel (25) · 7 years ago

This guy literally just scrolls up and down coinmarketcap for 20 minutes and that's what he calls a video. Also his predictions are usually wrong.

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freedomshift (64) · 7 years ago

I don't care if he / someone is gaming the system to enrich himself or herself IF it does NOT hurt anyone. In this case, even with the disclaimer, it could cause someone to lose money.
I went to his profile and clicked on the "Mute" button and now, I do not see his posts!
I wonder if he can see mine or not ...

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freedomshift (64) · 7 years ago

You can be sure that the picture is not him or his - what can be done if he is using someone else's image? It probably cam from some movie.

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leftamessage (50) · 7 years ago

WOW, I had no idea this kinda stuff went on. Thanks for sharing.

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mindreader (54) · 7 years ago

Digital Judo!!!! Can't stop laughing! ( I mean I get your point here,but this is just way too funny!)

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arcange (73) · 7 years ago

Congratulations @baejin!
Your post was mentioned in the Steemit Hit Parade in the following categories:

Comments - Ranked 10 with 183 comments
Pending payout - Ranked 2 with $ 633,93

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mustaghfirridwan (41) · 7 years ago

Wow amazing

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alexworkout (25) · 7 years ago

wow

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tymaths (33) · 7 years ago

When half of this amount can address the issues faced by the newbies here

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baksi (43) · 7 years ago

I love the Steam and everything connected with it, thank you for the post, dear friend, give me your voice please.

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alcoinz (25) · 7 years ago

Oh man! Sounds like drama... 🐺👨‍🚀🚀

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jdmackenzie (33) · 7 years ago

This scratch open something I have no understanding of. Officially jumping into researching the system now to get a better understanding.

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therealtblgk (42) · 7 years ago

lost some reputation because of haejin and berniesanders let people live haha

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thisisethanlau (58) · 7 years ago

b3567e27ee299e4de712fc26b75974d6--the-player-the-games.jpg

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introvertspeaks (51) · 7 years ago

Exposing the scammers is part of the game. I hope you do realize that!

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thisisethanlau (58) · 7 years ago

Sure it is. But a lot of people here are using similar techniques for purely monetary gain, so I don't think it's fair on @haejin to get all the blame. The system itself should be put into focus. @haejin gets all the hate mainly because of his huge payouts from steemit. Currently the state of steemit is encouraging people to do so, even it's not its intended purpose. So something has to be done but not like this.

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introvertspeaks (51) · 7 years ago (edited)

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alejoclawful (50) · 7 years ago

Oooooor holy sky!

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https://steemit.com/article/@zubair159/cool-new-google-play-store-tips-and-tricks-2017

zubair159 (25) · 7 years ago

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buildawhale (74) · 7 years ago

You got a 17.68% upvote from @buildawhale courtesy of @bittrex!
If you believe this post is spam or abuse, please report it to our Discord #abuse channel.

If you want to support our Curation Digest or our Spam & Abuse prevention efforts, please vote @themarkymark as witness.

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anthonyfichera (34) · 7 years ago

YES. I was tempted to mute haejin but decided downvoting all of his spam was a better idea

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babshegar123 (45) · 7 years ago

What a waste... world we are in..

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kofibeatz (52) · 7 years ago

Why do you power down @baejin? I've never understood the purpose and function..

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kofibeatz (52) · 7 years ago

WTF!!!!!!!! Abaejin. You're on another LEVEL!!! I'm so inspired stunner. Keep claiming these rewards..

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marleyn (59) · 7 years ago

No entendi :(

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batman31 (32) · 7 years ago

Legend, please vote my account @batman31

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josecca (52) · 7 years ago

do you vote for me ? please...

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weifang (29) · 7 years ago

No difference between him and you...

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stormrider (34) · 7 years ago

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tawasi (63) · 7 years ago

Holy smokes!
As mich as the blog entry breaks my heart the comment thread gives me hope.
I love all of the folks learning and teaching, us little guys don't have much influince and are highly susceptible to a whale downvote, so we either need a shill account to down vote or be prepared to bave zero steem, if I understand what is going on.
That said, I hope the whales and witnesses get on top of this, guy, or that there another solution along the way.

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shwemon (47) · 7 years ago

Wow.

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nicholas83 (56) · 7 years ago

For me what is so bothersome is the silence of the whales who can do something to address this situation. Silence means consent.

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sadolee (25) · 7 years ago

very nice I liked it tenks

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