RE: 4 responses for flat-earthers; Facts over Fiction

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4 responses for flat-earthers; Facts over Fiction

in science •  7 years ago  (edited)

i'm not pushing a new narrative. the heliocentric model isn't that old. it is the new kid on the block.

and no, i don't need to do the experiments either, i just interpret the data differently and don't believe nasa photos are real.

and many times, i'm simply looking at data that is being ignored. you don't get to ignore things in science... sorry.. but it appears to me people want to change the rules...

like why is the suez canal 100 miles and completely level? you see i don't need to do any research, this is a known fact. yet it is completely ignore, or confused. let us be clear...

if the earth was in fact 'curved' we'd see would see 80+ feet of change... yet there is none.

yet water is known to always find its level. nobody as proved or shown water not doing this.

if water was not level... all those pictures of perfect reflections in lakes or ocean would be impossible... why? because if it was curved the reflection would inherently not be complete.

this picture...

moon.reflection.png

is impossible on a curved surface. the water is flat.

oh nasa.. your not even good at faking it... this gif is from a 'live iss feed' ... watch as the solar shield appears out of no where. lol

https://imgur.com/a/STzYcFb

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You seem to be struggling now. You once again ignored every point except the suez because I happened to skip that one because I never looked into it. So let's look into it.

It turns out, you claim it's straight but have you actually shown that to be true? Cause it isn't. Check a map of the Suez canal

So now we know the numbers you started with are a lie, here's a telephoto shot of boats on the canal anyway, in the longest straight strip, showing them beneath thee horizon. Or was this a fake picture distributed across social media by the evil government, too?

Maybe you should save up a couple of hundred bucks for a plane ticket for a friend and do Eratosthenes stick experiment. It's cheap. You can probably find your answers for under $100.

Get back to me when your homework is done!

here is a Truth. you could be skinny as fuck. but if you had mentally internalized the idea that you where fat, you could end up dying like Karen Carpenter

be careful how much you have invested in any idea. if I truly saw a round earth, I'd change in an instant. i am not attached to it. I love the truth more than my comfort (because it would be false comfort.)

It turns out, you claim it's straight but have you actually shown that to be true? Cause it isn't. Check a map of the Suez canal

100 miles as the crow flies. it is actually longer than that. the actual length is unimportant to calculating the curve, so I had to find the true distance, the straight line distance, to make any sort of accurate prediction of the curvature.

So now we know the numbers you started with are a lie,

nope, they are not

your picture shows clearly the 'mirror line' .. what is it? a mirage, it is what makes it appear the boat is 'sinking below the horizon' among other things.

in the picture below, the red line is the mirror line. the green is the actual horizon. (roughly)

suez2.png

here is a great video looking into this mirror line... the ship isn't going below anything, it is getting covered up with a mirage. mirror line stuff starts at 3:04

maybe you could stop jumping to conclusions and realize that in science, if I can prove even one part of the theory wrong, there is a problem. the lack of proof of curvature of the earth is pretty freaking huge on the scale of problems with a theory.

If you don't get that, than stop calling what you are talking about science.

@klevn I'm wondering how to account for stars 'travelling' the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere on a flat earth? Also, they do a ton of astronomy these days and it all works because of the math involved in the globe model. How to explain thousands and thousands of people who rely on the statistical presumption of a globe spinning in space during the course of their daily observations?

Circumnavigation in the southern hemisphere is either 12,000 miles or its 60,000 miles (rough comparison) but it can't be both. People have sailed it and flown it - all we need to do is reference their journals and reports - many are public domain and therefore free.

I'll admit there are some mysteries and gaps in our collective knowledge, but I don't think this is one of them. I'm interested to hear how a serious 'flat earther' would answer my questions