Flu Vaccines Elevate Air-Borne Flu Particles by 630% - USA National Academy of Sciences Publication

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New Study from PNAS Finds Vaccinated Adults More Likely to Spread the Flu than Unvaccinated Adults!


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The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America (PNAS) reports that vaccinated people (mainly young adults 19-21) emit 630% more flu virus particles into the air than unvaccinated people.

Air-borne flu particles emitted via e.g. sneezing and coughing are believed to be the primary reason behind the spread of influenza. The study also raises questions about the veracity of herd immunity.

It seems that the herd may in fact be the carriers and spreaders of the flu.

The study is titled Infectious Virus in Exhaled Breath of Symptomatic Seasonal Influenza Cases from a College Community


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The scientists screened 355 volunteers with acute respiratory illness. 178 volunteers qualified for the study. 156 (88%) were confirmed to have the flu.

Excerpts from the study:

Fine-aerosol viral RNA was also positively associated with having influenza vaccination for both the current and prior season… We provide overwhelming evidence that humans generate infectious aerosols and quantitative data to improve mathematical models of transmission and public health interventions… Our observation of an association between repeated vaccination and increased viral aerosol generation demonstrated the power of our method, but needs confirmation.

The study observed an association between repeated vaccination and an increase in flu viral particles from e.g. coughing and sneezing.

The association of current and prior year vaccination with increased shedding of influenza A might lead one to speculate that certain types of prior immunity promote lung inflammation, airway closure, and aerosol generation. This first observation of the phenomenon needs confirmation. If confirmed, this observation, together with recent literature suggesting reduced protection with annual vaccination, would have implications for influenza vaccination recommendations and policies.

If the study results can be reproduced it would mean that flu vaccinations lead to reduced protection.

Self-reported vaccination for the current season was associated with a trend (P < 0.10) toward higher viral shedding in fine-aerosol samples; vaccination with both the current and previous year’s seasonal vaccines, however, was significantly associated with greater fine-aerosol shedding in unadjusted and adjusted models (P < 0.01). In adjusted models, we observed 6.3 (95% CI 1.9–21.5) times more aerosol shedding among cases with vaccination in the current and previous season compared with having no vaccination in those two seasons.

If you were unvaccinated you were 6.3 Times Less Likely to Spread the Flu Compared to a Vaccinated Individual.


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Sayer Ji commenting on the Cochrane Database Review


It is a heavily guarded secret within the medical establishment (especially within the corridors of the CDC) that the Cochrane Database Review (CDR), considered by many within the evidence-based medical model to be the gold standard for assessing the therapeutic value of common medical interventions, does not lend unequivocal scientific support to the belief and/or outright propaganda that flu vaccines are 'safe and effective.'

To the contrary, these authoritative reviews reveal there is a conspicuous absence of conclusive evidence as to the effectiveness of influenza vaccines in children under 2, healthy adults, the elderly, and healthcare workers who care for the elderly. Sayer Ji - Green Med Info


The Cochrane Data Review was conducted over 40 Years and included data from 75 Studies of Influenza Vaccination.

Following is the conclusion of the Cochrane Review titled Vaccines for Preventing Seasonal Influenza and its Complications in people Aged 65 or Older


The available evidence is of poor quality and provides no guidance regarding the safety, efficacy or effectiveness of influenza vaccines for people aged 65 years or older. To resolve the uncertainty, an adequately powered publicly-funded randomised, placebo-controlled trial run over several seasons should be undertaken.


Cochrane recommended a Placebo-Controlled Trial over several flu seasons


Over 200 viruses cause influenza and influenza-like illness which produce the same symptoms (fever, headache, aches and pains, cough and runny noses). Without laboratory tests, doctors cannot tell the two illnesses apart. Both last for days and rarely lead to death or serious illness. At best, vaccines might be effective against only Influenza A and B, which represent about 10% of all circulating viruses. Source: Cochrane Data Review Summaries


Conclusion: Flu Vaccines May be Effective in 10% of Cases


Canadian Study - Vaccines May Decrease Resistance to Infection


Flu vaccine among Canadians (2008-2009) increased the rate of pandemic H1N1 infection. Therefore, vaccines, may in fact decrease resistance to viral infection via their immunosuppressive actions. Association between the 2008-09 Seasonal Influenza Vaccine and Pandemic H1N1 Illness during Spring-Summer 2009: Four Observational Studies from Canada


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Contrary to what the government, media and scientific establishment are telling you - the science is NOT settled. We have conflicting studies stretching back over many decades. It has not been scientifically proven that flu vaccines are even effective - so why are so many babies, children, adults and elderly receiving flu shots every year?

For the most part they get their annual jab because the media told them to. The doctor repeated the message during your visit. He got his information from the pharmaceutical company selling the vaccine, and his respective medical association and department of health. Family and peer-groups may further re-enforce the false belief of a need for the flu vaccine.

We, the citizens of the world are divided on this issue and that is not good.

We need to be discussing the data, all of it, not just the studies that the media, scientific academies, CDC and other bad actors tell you that you are allowed to trust. These entities are scientific gatekeepers. Did you hear about the above studies on the TV, radio or other mainstream media? Did your doctor tell you?

If you consume mainstream media you will no doubt have seen numerous reports re-enforcing the need to vaccinate. We are only being told one side of the story. It is not a fair, scientific, reasonable or balanced debate. It is an agenda to sell more drugs for pharmaceutical companies and you do that by keeping people in a perpetual state of sickness.

In the United States, people that believe that they have been injured due to vaccines are not allowed to have their day in court before a judge and jury. They *cannot sue the pharmaceutical company that manufactured the vaccine.

No matter what camp you sit in - that is unconstitutional, a gross miscarriage of justice and a huge slap in the face to the victims of vaccine injuries.

Instead we have a Vaccine Court that has paid out approximately $4 Billion to victims families since 1998*. The vaccine court compensates people that can produce strong evidence that the injury, disability, or death is linked to vaccinations. The Center for Disease Control (CDC) estimates that only about 10% of adverse events linked to vaccines are reported.

If all events were reported it is possible that $40 Billion could have been paid out.

Surely the pharmaceutical companies are responsible for paying the compensation claim you ask?

Nope, they call it a no-fault settlement and the taxpayers foots the bill.

This image is a snapshot from the homepage of the Health Resources & Services Administration which is responsible for governing the vaccination compensation program.


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No-Fault means the **taxpayer foots the bill ** for the administration costs to operate the court as well as the compensation/damages claims that the vaccine court awards. The victims are required to sign a confidentiality agreement before they receive the payment i.e. a coverup and silencing of witnesses.

Big Pharma should be footing the bill. The victims are not at fault yet not only do they have to live with the injury or death, but they also have to pay all costs via taxation.

The government needs to stop rubber-stamping the approval, manufacture and distribution of the said vaccines, order a truly independent enquiry into corruption and collusion between government and the pharmaceutical industry and conduct transparent, scientific studies with the aim of reproducing the results that we find in the PNAS study at the top of this article.

That is not going to happen before medical professionals and scientists demand it. If you are in one of these fields I implore you to start asking difficult questions within your industry. More brave and honest whistleblowers are also needed. Please stop defending your sides position and come down from that wall and let’s work together and effect positive, lasting change.

The government, media, pharma and science is lying to all of us on this issue.


This is affecting every human being one way or another. Our governments have been covertly taken over by corporations - Big Pharma is not the only industry e.g. banking.

Big Pharma makes multi-billions in profits every year selling the vaccines that caused these injuries. Strong evidence was required to win those cases and I can assure you that they are not easily won. When you create the rules of the game you almost always tip them in your favor - that’s just plain common sense.

One has to be incredibly naive to not see the blatant corruption, collusion and injustices that are being carried out by the pharmaceutical industry and our elected officials.

Too many people were suing Big Pharma in the 70’s and 80’s and they were going to stop manufacturing the vaccines that were known to be causing the damage. That seemed like a sensible option but that’s not what happened. They just moved it out of the courts and into closed hearings and passed the expenses on to the taxpayer.

I hope that you are beginning to digest the magnitude of the situation that we find ourselves in?

We had a problem back then and we have the same problem today, only it’s much bigger now. Big Pharma never treats the source of the problem but always the symptoms. If people were healthy and free of disease they would be out of business. The symptoms on this occasion was law suits and loss of profits. Big Pharma suddenly started feeling very queasy so they lobbied their bought and paid for politicians and got them to change the law.

The most responsible way to avoid infecting other people may be to AVOID flu vaccinations.


If this study is correct and reproducible the herd is weaponized to spread the flu faster, and more widely than the unvaccinated. Parents that are choosing not to vaccinate their kids are being labelled as child abusers and there are calls from some quarters for the government to begin mandatory vaccinations.

Just last year a law was passed that allows the Center for Disease Control (CDC) to Detain, Quarantine or Vaccinate any person attempting to cross state borders that they suspect is carrying an infectious disease and fine anyone that doesn’t comply up to $250,000.

Imagine that you're at the airport and you have a cough, runny nose or common cold. An officer removes you from the security line and informs you that he is going to quarantine you on suspicion of you having a communicable disease* and ask you to receive the vaccination or be prosecuted and fined.

Oppressive laws such as this are rubber-stamped through Congress on an almost daily basis (across all agencies and pertaining to all aspects of our lives), in stealth and with impunity. Our civil liberties and freedoms are under direct attack from the corporations that bought our elected officials and governments before we were born.

Pro-vaxxers, anti-vaxxers and vaccine awareness advocates are all standing up for what they believe is in the best interests of themselves, their families and the wider community. Rather than in-fighting amongst ourselves, our time would be much better spent if we demanded more from our governments and elected representatives.

I understand that some of this may be challenging for you to blindly accept. It may even come as a surprise?

If that is you, I strongly encourage you to do your own independent research. Hear the evidence from all sides of this debate with an open-mind and a desire to discover the truth and come to your own conclusions.

Don’t be afraid to question the status quo. Don’t let the government and media tell you which studies you are allowed to read and which scientists and doctors to trust.

This problem exists because there are greedy, corrupt men in the world that prey on a public that (for the most part) trusts what the media, science and government tells them.

The human race (all of us) need scientists and medical professionals to lead the charge from within and tell the world what they know, see and suspect. This system is rotten at it’s core and we need tear it down and replace it with a decentralized one with all of the data on a blockchain.

We can do it. Thank you for reading.

Till next time…

Yours in Peace, Health & Truth
@SteemTruth

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I've written on this subject before and it disturbs me how many people still don't do ANY due diligence before injecting themselves and/or their loved ones. The Government/Big Pharma circle jerk needs to be broken before anything will change. In the meantime I'm convinced many unnecessary deaths will be caused NOT prevented.
Nice one buddy.

Well said @tremendospercy.

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Absolutely! Thank God people are realizing this! Cheers to you mate and people like you!

Protocols when set are difficult to change, so many things are built on it, it would take years to change it.

Flu vaccines cause antibodies to develop in the body about two weeks after vaccination. These antibodies provide protection against infection with the viruses that are in the vaccine.

The seasonal flu vaccine protects against the influenza viruses that research indicates will be most common during the upcoming season. Traditional flu vaccines (called “trivalent” vaccines) are made to protect against three flu viruses; an influenza A (H1N1) virus, an influenza A (H3N2) virus, and an influenza B virus. There are also flu vaccines made to protect against four flu viruses (called “quadrivalent” vaccines). These vaccines protect against the same viruses as the trivalent vaccine and an additional B virus.

Just a heads up here that you should not copy and paste figures from journal articles. Technically this is a copyright infringement and could result in legal action against you (since you are using their content and making money from it). Cheers

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It disgusts me to see how much it's marketed and advertised where we live. They have these signs on all the street lamps in the grocery store parking lot, all kid-like and cartoony "shoo flu" get your free flu shot...anything that needs this much advertising must be pretty shitty...just sayin'.

Good news spreads by word of mouth, not bombardment marketing and fear/smear campaigns. You make a very good point.

Took my time to look a little over the linked article and your post. While I think the study is interesting and needs a close look on follow-ups, your conclusion is just wrong and a typical "click-bait"!


This:

Flu Vaccines Elevate the Spread of Influenza by 630%

is YOUR INTERPRETATION of

The PNAS reports that vaccinated people emit 630% more flu virus particles into the air than unvaccinated people.

The study doesn't say that flu vaccines elevate the spread of the disease!

You know that - and you are misleading your readers with an own interpretation without any proof yet again.

Is such misleading what you demand from our governments as well? Or is drawing a conclusion without facts supporting it the independent research you want people to do?


The article above is about:

Flu vaccine study.
$4 Billion of Vaccine Injury Compensation since 1988.
Big Pharma receiving so many law suits that they may have had to stop manufacturing some vaccines.
The families that are impacted by vaccine injury but must remain silent.
Taxpayers footing the bill instead of Big Pharma.
General, widespread corruption and collusion between government, big pharma, scientists, medical professionals and the media.

These are very serious issues. Rather than addressing the most important problems you chose to focus on little details?

If you want to be part of the solution and help fix the healthcare system, and seeing that you are an aspiring doctor, I would have thought that the above points would have been far more important to you than a headline?

With all due respect, you seem to have your priorities in the wrong order. If you're an aspiring doctor and representative of the next generation of doctors I can see that we still have a lot of work in front of us.

Your industry, whether you want to believe it or not is riddled with corruption.

Please stop ignoring the big issues and help us try and fix them, please!

P.S. I made a small edit to the headline. I had not slept for 24 hours when I posted.
P.P.S. Be courteous and reasonable please.


I am yet to research the following but I think that you should take a very serious and close look at it.

While the government in the U.S. continues to resist doing a true study on vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children or adults, stating that such a study would be “unethical”, researchers in Hong Kong have conducted a true vaccinated vs. unvaccinated study on the influenza vaccine. This is probably one of the few, if not only, true study conducted in recent times where a real placebo was actually used and compared to the vaccine. The results are quite remarkable, suggesting that it is unethical NOT to pursue more studies comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated populations. People receiving the flu vaccine suffered from other respiratory infections at a rate 5.5 times more than the placebo group! Source: Study: Flu Vaccine Causes 5.5 Times More Respiratory Infections – A True Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Study

My comment was regarding your headline, nothing else - If the headline is "a little detail", you might just call it "A study about the flu vaccine!".

But since you know as well as me, that it is not a "small detail" but rather the number 1 criteria why people click on a post, you decided to post a clickbait that you know is not statet in the article you linked to.

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Wow this is terrible
Mainly because of global corruption
Oh really. Life is complicated by our sins.

A study in Hong Kong did a double blind placebo study and found that people who vaccinated were 5.5 times to get sick (people were monitored for about 270 days)

https://healthimpactnews.com/2013/study-flu-vaccine-causes-5-5-times-more-respiratory-infections-a-true-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-study/

This is a good study because unlike gov- funded studies, it uses a genuine placebo (a saline solution).

Keep up the good work! :)

Thank you for sharing this with me :)

I've read the link and bookmarked the study which I will come back to later and read.

It is people like you that make this so much easier and more enjoyable. If I write about this study I will give you a shout-out :) I also wish you well with your studies.

Keep in touch and if you come across any other powerful data please pass it on. Or better still, write it yourself and send me a link and I will read it.

Till next time :)

Excellent work and research as always my friend, thank you for continuing to speak your truth in the face of much adversity. Equally like you say, "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger". In the UK I often wonder if the Royal chlldren are vaccinated and even if they are I very much doubt they receive the same vaccinations as the rest of society. Ive even seen private clinics over here advertsing "clean vaccines" and to me those two words speak volumes.

All of my family had the flu this year including my Mum & Dad, whom had the flu vaccine a couple of weeks before! They also had the worst symptoms of anybody an my Dad ended up in hospital. I obviously can't prove the connection but I believe his previous flu vaccination affected his immune system and made him vulnerbable to this different strain. Thank you for sharing @steemtruth

Thank you for your support and encouragement my friend. I feel stronger everyday :)

I'd like to know what their definition of a 'clean vaccine' is? Sounds like Orwellian doublespeak to me!

I think you are most probably right about your Dad. I hope that you all stay healthy @perceptualflaws

Thanks for dropping by and sharing your experience with us. It's always a pleasure!

No problem my friend, it's been very good to see you back on the platform again and sharing your truth.

I think their idea of a clean vaccine related to single shots and equally shots clean of the associated adjuvants.

This a very cool finding and thanks for sharing it. I also read the paper...at least abstract and conclusion of the paper. I would like to quote their conclusion and emphasis what they said:" The association of current and prior year vaccination with increased shedding of influenza A might lead one to speculate that certain types of prior immunity promote lung inflammation, airway closure, and aerosol generation. This first observation of the phenomenon needs confirmation. If confirmed, this observation, together with recent literature suggesting reduced protection with annual vaccination, would have implications for influenza vaccination recommendations and policies."

Authors empirically find the positive correlation between vaccination and virus infection for the first time and since study is limited to a community college...this data cannot be generalized and in their own words "need confirmation"! This is a huge SPECULATION based on limited data! But if this is true in large population and several researchers need to confirm this..not only this one, then there will be a huge change in policy and way people see influenza vaccination.

@guernicamikan shared this with me in another comment on this page.

A study in Hong Kong did a double blind placebo study and found that people who vaccinated were 5.5 times to get sick (people were monitored for about 270 days)

https://healthimpactnews.com/2013/study-flu-vaccine-causes-5-5-times-more-respiratory-infections-a-true-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-study/

This is a good study because unlike gov- funded studies, it uses a genuine placebo (a saline solution).

That link led me to this study - Oxford Academic: Increased Risk of Noninfluenza Respiratory Virus Infections Associated With Receipt of Inactivated Influenza Vaccine

I am yet to read it but I will. If you care to share your findings me I'd be grateful.

Thank you for a great summary (which I should have included but will now edit in).

Great finding! This is very non-intuitive knowing the way inactivated vaccine should work to enhance our immunity. Strains of the flu are generally grown in fertilized chicken egg and they are killed or inactivated before their antigen is used for vaccination. Seems like problem is with how our body is reacting to those virus antigens and developing immunity against it after vaccination. One hypothesis could be the strain of virus antigen people are getting rather amplifies the immune response in a bad way by messing up with the inflammation signals, particularly of our adaptive immune system that is suppose to remember the antigen it encounters for future defense.

Or simply there are so many strains of flu given to us these days through vaccine that our immune system get friendly and used to with the virus antigens. As a result, immune cells do not not attack the real virus at all (do not even release antibody) when its time to defend us from influenza. The real influenza then does its job of getting us sick by replicating quickly in our body. I will wait till someone contest or backup the PNAS paper you have highlighted.

I found this paper in the Lancet journal [1] saying influenza vaccine is not that effective (only roughly works about 35% of the time) and other paper saying 43% people believes flu vaccine can give you the flu [2]. Influenza vaccination is indeed a confusing thing for many people and it’s worth highlighting and talking about it in the platform like Steemit. Looking forward for more post like this.

[1] https://doi.org/10.1016/S1473-3099(11)70295-X

[2] https://doi.org/10.1016/j.vaccine.2014.11.017

Our family went to get a flu shot only once ever and will never do so again!! The one year we went to get the flu shot was the year we were sicker than any time before or since. All 5 of us (2 parents and 3 children) were constantly sick that year. I had heard that you may be sick soon after the shot as you are essentially injecting a strain of the virus into your system but I never expected the number of times family members would be bed ridden with high fever, vommiting and diarrhea. It seems like an endless revolving door. One person would start to feel better and another would go down. Don't think we ever spent so much time washing sheets and disinfecting.

Like I said: NEVER again!!!

That sounds like a horrible experience. I wish that you didn't have to go through it. Your comment will hopefully make anyone reading it stop and think about the virus, bacteria and chemicals that are being injected into their bodies.

Our bodies and nature can provide us with a strong, natural immune system and antibodies to fight a flu. Keeping people sick is big business!

Thanks for sharing your experience!

The new years vaccine is always for last years flu. Don't see how that could possibly help.

It helps the stockholders at least : /

hello again @steemtruth. In my condition getting the flue is a big concern. I have not gotten the flue shot in years. Don't be mislead I believe in vaccines and received everyone under the sun for every part of this planet. The flue shot is a crap shoot. right now they are working on next years vaccine with best guess information on how the bug (virus) will appear next year. Sometimes they get it right and its a blessing for many people. This year its a 30% chance of working. ooops. Everyone needs to make that decision on their own with information on the pros and cons for each individual. Example if I had a small child I would get the flue vaccine to them. To much information is a good thing and everybody need to do their own homework from many sources and weigh what they have learned. keep up the work

nice to hear from you @wolfhart and thank you for sharing some honest, rational and important information. I'd love to continue in that vein.

In my condition getting the flue is a big concern. I have not gotten the flue shot in years

Is that due to increased risk of catching the flu from the vaccine?

I believe in vaccines

Are there any that you don't believe in or don't have as much trust in?

Example if I had a small child I would get the flue vaccine to them.

What would be the earliest age that you would start? Why give a child the flu vaccine?

To much information is a good thing and everybody need to do their own homework from many sources and weigh what they have learned.

I agree with all of that. I will add that the men pulling the strings do not make it easy for us to find accurate and balanced information. It should be freely given to us but that is not going to happen so we must find it ourselves and arrive at our own conclusions.

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Flu vaccines, chem trails, poisoning the food, poisoning the water, you name it, all attributing to the rise.

the rise of the people and awareness?

Yes, and the rise of all kinds of illnesses.

Agreed, they are definitely linked. Welcome to Steemit.

Thanks!

Excellent post! Follow

Thank you!

Vaccines kill all the time! No way I'm sticking myself with the most toxic substances on earth and claiming it is "for my health"...

Yeah I've been against flu shots for a few years now. I never thought about sharing with other people though, so it's inspiring of you to put this out there

It makes me feel a little bit better to see many more people beginning to question the vaccine agenda. It always seemed laughable that they fear the unvaccinated when they are the ones carrying the live virus intentionally. RESPECT

I learnt from your post thanks for the update

really interesting and helpful post.

Thought you might like to see this...This winter’s awful flu season was made worse by a wildly ineffective vaccine
https://qz.com/1198395/this-years-flu-vaccine-is-more-than-20-less-effective-than-last-years/

Thank you @wolfhart - appreciate it!

I am so grateful and thankful for this article! Thank you for putting it out there!

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This vaccine discussion is driving me nuts. In general, I can handle a difference in opinion but there is a point when someone has to say stop. Especially if it comes to the health and safety of our children.

My take on vaccinations:

  • This [http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/here-s-visual-proof-why-vaccines-do-more-good-harm] shows a decline in reported cases after the vaccine has been introduced. There is a very high probability that the vaccine is causing the decline in cases. If you decide to argue that the decline can also be because of cosmic radiation coming from a steeper angle out of the Andromeda constellation. I would say; unlikely but if there is data- he drop me a link.
  • 'Its is filling the suitcases of big pharma' but to be honest; cosmetics and/or oncology products are more of a money maker than vaccines. This coming from a guy who works in the industry. Take the Polio vaccine, one vaccine costs about 0.25 dollar- even if you would vaccinate a country of 50 mln people this would provide you with a very meager turnover of 12.5 million USD. You would make more money if you make people believe that Paracetamol works; giving every person an ampoule of Paracetamol (0.48 USD) and your shareholder would be much happier. [source of prices: http://mshpriceguide.org/en/drug-search-page-2/].

If anti-vaxxers would use the same tone as academics/scientist and be less militant, coming up with creditable sources and a methodology which shows actual causation and which is verifiable by other sources. I'm more than willing to listen and even reconsider my point of view.

I worked at Lonza Biologics as head of security. I went through FDA inspections, talked to Scientists that worked there, talked to drug reps daily while they waited to talk to the scientists. All I can post is my opinion from what I saw daily and from what our officers did during their shifts. I would not get the Flu shot or the HPV vaccine ever. Multi-shot vaccines are also dangerous.

There is anti-vax and smart-vax. I'm not against proven vaccines given at safe intervals. I can say with certainty, the flu vaccine has not been tested enough independently, it does not work to make people healthier in the future, it does not stop the flu, it contains chemicals that most of you will never be told about.

If you want specific answers, I can't post them on a public board.

Maybe you are right about the flue vaccine. There is a lot of fuss around them, everywhere. I think time will tell who is/was on the right side.

The pediatrician makes a lot more then $0.25/vaccine. Vaccines and the related visits that go hand in hand with the vaccine schedule makes up the majority of pediatrician's income. So there may not be too much money made on the manufacturer's side but distribution there is plenty.

Also with vaccines being immune from lawsuits that decreases the risk that the manufacturers have for any losses. So that smaller profit is almost a guaranteed profit.

Being immune from lawsuits might have something to do with local liability laws. Imagine, every child gets vaccinated and the local population has a love for litigation, as a manufacturer I would not like to spend my profits on lawyers; court cases etc. I would choose to leave the business of developing/manufacturing vaccines and go into the foot cream business (lower risk, higher reward). In the end when almost every private company but one has left price of a vaccine might be equal to a new Lexus. The other option would be for the government to start manufacturing vaccines but I believe this is the ultimate nightmare for a certain group of people...

The lack of ability to sue makes vaccines inherently more dangerous. There is no incentive to make a safe product.

Compound that with the fact that most vaccines are directed at infants which means it is that much harder to detect a vaccine injury since they can't tell you how they feel and you get a increasingly hazardous environment to grow up in.

The thing that governments falsely believe is that the cost of the vaccine out weighs the cost of treating the acute illness. But if you take into account the extra burden of chronic illness that vaccines set your immune system up for that excuses doess't hold up.

Governments absolutely should be the ones producing vaccines. they are already the ones footing the bill for current vaccine injuries why let private companies profit off of it. The only reason that governments are still pushing vaccines is that they feel that they are in too deep to reverse that decision from a litigation point of view and they are way too short sighted in their thinking to see the cost savings to the healthcare system over the longterm if we no longer pushed vaccines on everyone and rather respected the wishes of parents to make decisions for the health of their families themselves.

Almost everyone has had this one illness. Generally this disease occurs due to the infection of the virus that attacks the respiratory tract. This one disease has a relatively short incubation period. Various symptoms of this disease generally only occurs within a few days after the patient is infected. The flu is a contagious disease. Thus, this disease will be able to move from one person to another. The mechanism of transmission can occur so easily. When the sufferer is in one room along with a healthy person, then he sneezes or coughs, then the discharge is exposed to another healthy person and then at the same time the healthy person is interacting with the nose or mouth, the transmission of the virus the cause of flu will occur easily. The period of transmission of this flu can occur one day before symptoms muncil and about 6 days later.

Some people are actually working on getting around less-than effective flu vaccines without promoting misleading results and bitching about them:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-02725-4

Take a look before perpetuating this narrative that this is some nefarious plot to harm people and making this yet another grand conspiracy.

Truth may fear no investigation, but given you cannot validate your claims it leads me to be believe you are being untruthful; knowingly or not. Do better.

If "truthtrain" sees this, spare me your rambling incoherent babbling.

Things with a lot of publicity have so much influence in our daily life and even in our subconscious that they can have a healing effect not so much because their components are effective, but because of the wrong faith that we give for the advertising effect marked on us.

Argument for vaccination here

Post declines payout and is a series of links to other posts past payout,

Who should get vaccinated this season?
Everyone 6 months of age and older should get a flu vaccine every season. This recommendation has been in place since February 24, 2010 when CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted for “universal” flu vaccination in the United States to expand protection against the flu to more people.

Vaccination to prevent influenza is particularly important for people who are at high risk of serious complications from influenza. See People at High Risk of Developing Flu-Related Complications for a full list of age and health factors that confer increased risk.

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First i saw this headline, 'vaccine denier' comes to my mind.
But after thoroughly read your article, i find out it is quite reasonable assumption.(not confirmed as you said it).

I'm really curious about one thing as a newbie to this subject.
This risk of getting vaccinated is not applied generally, right?

I need follow every other guidelines when it comes to vaccination other than this flu shot, right?

It toke me time to read it but it deserve that great useful and informative post. It is the flu season with distinction

I will have to check that study, herd immunity is very important for vaccine preventable diseases, this is essential for countries like mine.

It would be nice if 2C and 2D showed which data points are derived from vaccinated and non-vaccinated patients. It is not clear in a quick reading whether increased viral RNA equals increased infectivity (towards others). E.g. high RNA counts could be indicative of an attenuated virus.

Also, this conclusion anti-vax seem excited about is only for flu A and not flu B. That only 22% of participants were vaccinated really underscores the need for replication. Still a very interesting study.

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