Disulfides in Proteins

in science •  7 years ago  (edited)

Between lectures, lab, gym and regular life (yes, I have one of those!), there wasn’t much time to produce creative content for Steemit lately. The fact that I have to hold a presentation on this publication on Friday, together with someone who doesn’t understand English that well made it even worse.

This morning, I started researching for a post on what chemicals in our brain are responsible for our happiness. After an hour, I deleted everything, because I just knew that this post would be incredibly boring. Not because the subject was boring but because I was bored.@suesa

At first, I considered not posting today (as I did yesterday) but then I thought to myself, why not explain some things to you that I’ll have to present on Friday anyway? So, let’s talk about disulfides.

In your body, there are proteins. Proteins are made up out of amino acids, which are made up out of carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen and sometimes sulfur. After the amino acids are put together in a long string, the protein needs to be folded in complicated structures, so it can do what it’s supposed to do.

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That’s the part where the sulfur comes in. If there are at least two amino acids that contain sulfur (the amino acid in question is called cysteine), the sulfur parts form some sort of “bridge” which folds the protein a certain way.

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There are other ways a protein can be folded, but we’ll concentrate on this one because it’s very … extensive.

Connecting the parts doesn’t just happen by itself. It involves 4 Proteins, called DsbA, DsbB, DsbC and DsbD (in E. coli bacteria, that’s what the paper is on, in case you haven’t clicked it. I’m talking about bacteria here. The process of disulfide formation is slightly different in humans). I’ll call them A, B, C and D (Dsb stands for disulfide bond, DsbA means disulfide bond protein A).

It happens like this:

The protein encounters A and gives it an electron, which causes a sulfur of A to connect to a sulfur of the protein. Another protein sulfur gives an electron to A, which leads to the release of A from the complex and forms a bridge between the two sulfurs inside the protein.

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This process is an oxidation-reduction reaction, where A gets reduced and the protein is oxidized. Reduction is the gain of electrons, while oxidation is the loss. I’ll be using these two words from now on!

The protein is oxidized now and the disulfide is formed. But there’s a problem now: A needs to be in an oxidized form to function, but it’s reduced now! That’s where B enters the stage.

B takes away the electrons from A (oxidizes it) and then moves them to a molecule called ubiquinone, which has several jobs inside the cell. Here, it just transfers the electrons, until they end up being transferred to oxygen (if there is air available) or to nitrate (if there isn’t). Both A and B are now in the form they’re supposed to be and can get back to work! Yay!

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But wait, something is wrong, I told you that there are four proteins at work, we only discussed two so far!

This is because A doesn’t always do a good job. You see, A is only good at connecting two sulfurs that are next to each other, but sometimes, you need to skip one to get the proper form. When A tries to do that, it fails.

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For that, we have C. C can open the bridge up and form a new one. It can also just break the bridge apart without forming a new connection. If the second version happens, it’s effectively reducing the protein and gets oxidized in the process.

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But it needs to be reduced to work. So, again, we have something to help: The protein D.

D does a lot of things. It moves around electrons throughout the cells in ways that aren’t fully understood yet. What is understood is, that it gives electrons to C, to return it to its reduced state. And everyone is happy again.

Of course, there is a lot more behind the mechanisms than I explained. The 3D-structures of the proteins A, B, C, and D are complex and, in the case of D, not yet fully discovered. But I thought it might be interesting for you to learn something that not everyone can find out via a simple google search.

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Hello @suesa

I couldn't help but chuckle at your sketches all the way through. I regularly workout at the gym and have some basic knowledge of protein and amino acids. Was nice to get a more technical break down of how they function.

Question/Suggestion: I guess protein supplements like whey, specifically the "Gold" brand work in a similar fashion when consumed? If not I think it would be an interesting post to read. :)

Protein supplements just provide you with amino acids that you need (and sometimes can't produce yourself). No relation to disulfides. You eat the protein, it's broken down in amino acids and those are used to form new proteins :)

Yep, sounds about right. Thanks for the clarification :)

Welcome to Steem, remember me when you are rich :]

You know about it,, I personally never been to Gym and I dont know anything at all about Protein or amino acids.
But Seriously have huge muscles just like a Champion.
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I am just kidding: No gym= No muscles looool

Haha, maybe one day? ;)

"No gym = No muscles"

Have you ever seen a black person?

hey @xodan,
I recently wrote a post about collagen supplements, which is also a protein, and general protein supps will be a topic of mine in the next 2-3 weaks.
Let me tell you a spoiler: If you take up enough proteins via your regular nutrition, there is absolutely no need to take supplements - not even if you want to gain muscle mass.

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Queen of science... Your sketches prove that art ain't your strength! :D

Thank you for breaking down proteins for us. Question; Was recently told by a doctor that my body or blood (not sure) is full of proteins so I should reduce them. What does that mean? Are they harmful? He said they are.

breaking down proteins for us

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Hey, my drawings are magnificent, ok? :P

I'm not sure what your doctor might have meant by that. Technically, your blood is full of proteins. But it's possible that there are elevated levels of the wrong proteins, or byproducts of protein breakdown. Can't say much about it from afar.

Lol. Okay :p

I am thinking elevated levels of 'wrong' proteins because he suggested I stop consuming them for a while.

Education trough fun - that's what I like :)
Thanks!

Where were you when I was reading this for exams :P

Probably writing about something else... :D

I was dusting up an old poem about DNA, when I read this, so now it doesn't seem so nerdy to post it

I like your art style. You struggle with handwriting tho.

I could lie and say that my handwriting is only so bad because I'm not used to drawing on a tablet but... I mean, my handwriting is better on paper, but still pretty bad.

I assume the reason is that I only wrote cursive until I was 14 and then forced myself to switch. Never really developed the "typically pretty" handwriting most girls have xD

I LOVE the illustrations - the happiest proteins on Steemit! Great post, explained simply but accurately. I'd use this to study for exams if I still had any in this field :-)
Upvoted!

It suddenly felt like I was back in school studying biochemistry all over again. Nice sketches although one looked like a car. Nice post. The human body is an amazing structure with so many activities going on. We can never exhaust it. Interesting piece. I learnt something new today

Maybe I wanted it to look like a car. It's art. You'll never know :P

Oh okay but nice drawing.

I'm happy that you stated that regular steemians do have a life and not just some 1s and 0s in an algorithm :)
Reduction and oxidation or redox reactions are one of my high points in high school classes. Happy to be reminded of some of my high school biology/chemistry classes.

I'm just trying to hide the fact that I'm actually a very sophisticated bot

We love a bot with a human touch :)

boops your nose

Human touch :P

Even Sophie could relate :)

As I have to do another f*cking Western Blot tomorrow, I'm momentarily more interrested in cracking disulfide bonds that building them.^^
But nice sketches ;-)

Break them open!
Western Blots suck so hard, I'm so sorry

ty for your sympathy, I am used to it anyway...

Lol. What a coincidence, we happen to be studying about protein and its functions relating to its 3D structures. Even learnt the disulfide bond is a more stronger bond as compared to the hydrophobic bond, vander waal's forces etc. As to why protein A doea not do a good job in connecting. It is because protein are specific as to what substrates they bind to. "Structural complementarity"

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I enjoy visiting your blog, though this is not my field of study, but when ever I discuss what I have learnt from your blog with my best friend who is a nurse she always marvel at where I get my knowledge from. Thanks @suesa for always sharing. And oh please the post on what chemical in the brain makes us happy ain't going to be boring as a matter of fact, I am already anticipating it

You know where I'm confused? It's the relationship between the mechanism you explained above and free radicals. If these are natural processes that happen in the body, can we be right to say that they also deposit reactive oxygen species in the body?

Actually, DsbD and reactive ocygen species are connected! I just left it out to not make it too technical, not everyone has a background in chemistry or biology. But yes, if you read the paper I linked, it even specifically talks about the connection.

Awesome. I'll check it out, and l I'll be looking forward to your posts. I guess this is a refreshing way of studying chemistry without going through those boring voluminous books.

Greetings from a Biologist, Venezuelan. These are definitely the topics that I like to read, those that expand my mind, those that make me remember because I am a scientist.

Definitely a magestral class of proteins.

You got to think more when you really are bored. Hey you have cute drawings! Hahaha It is so good to learn while having fun.

@suesa : Hi.. this article gives me motivation to write on the research work and articles I read about. Keep up the good work. But my concern is that since I am a newcomer to the arena it is very difficult to reach out to people. Even quality works gets unnoticed. 😥

You should reach out to steemSTEM, either on steemit.chat or on Discord https://discord.gg/smd26A

this was really an interesting and easy way to understand disulfide bridges in protein structures.....i will really appreciate if you could come up with some more ideas and stuff to other macro-molecules and make them simple through your meticulous way of posts.

I'll see what I'll come up with. Thing is, breaking it down that simple is really hard. I've spend hours reading and understanding that paper for the presentation I have to hold. On that basis, I was able to extract the most important points and post them here.

hmm still it was a really good effort and whenever you come across such topics so do give them a try because you will also be working for easy understanding of complex processes for students and science lovers so keep the good work

When I see your drawings to illustrate your points so eloquently it makes me think that perhaps ,where you a teacher in the past ? or even now ?

I'm a 21 years old biology student ^^ But thank you :)
I wouldn't be a good teacher as I don't have enough patience.

Between lectures, lab, gym and regular life (yes, I have one of those!)

Wait until you become a PhD student ;)

What will I drop, gym or regular life?

Probably regular life.

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Error 404: Regular life not found XDD

You don't know how bad my grades are, compared to my peers.

At least I have friends and get enough sleep.

Same here~
I am the one who dont know how to do exam 😂😂
Really glad to have a prof pick me as a RPG and not just look at grades
Competition is always tough, we used to make jokes:
"Sleep"? What is "sleep"? Something can eat? lol

You have empirically proven record of good social skills (the most important).
Concerning the posts you are way above an average student, thus you will finish it in 2 - 3 years easily with a lot of good time on conferences.

And now it's time for my workout. Reading the papers requires serious core strength and endurance.

What would your life be like without a regular life?

Full of work and food I suppose

I'm sure you wouldn't want that

Food is nice tho :P But yea, a life is kind of nice too

Perhaps if i can use the word oversimplified , you oversimplified disulfides. And this was far away from being boring.
Your idea of using A and B even made it more easier to understand. I do envy your way of interaction with readers through your post.
Kudos

Oversimplification is sometimes necessary when explaining things to people who don't have the same educational background. It's actually hard to decide what can be left out and what is absolutely necessary.

Happy you seem to have enjoyed the post :)

Sure

Disulfide bonds in proteins are formed between the thiol groups of cysteine residues by the process of oxidative folding. The other sulfur-containing amino acid, methionine, cannot form disulfide bonds.

Good job quoting wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disulfide

Very nice post m'lady I tip my fedora at you (no sarcasm really god post) damn good stuff ma'am

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In very short the amino acid doesn't just going and connect to a line of amino acid, but there is a DNA molecule that becomes RNA and mRNA to make the protein.
There are 4 different structures to protein:

  1. Is the line of amino acids that connected to each other.

  2. In the structures, between specific amino acids form hydrogen connection. Those structures called Alpha Helix \Beta Sheet.

  3. This one is a 3D structure that gives the protein the ability to do its job in the cell. this structure contain the disulfids bonds, ions bonds, Hydrogen bonds.

  4. This is the last structure, in some cases the final protein can be build from a few protein in the 3D structure that connected to each other. one example is the Hemoglobin that build from 4 sub protein in the 3D form.

Yes. But I really didn't want to explain transcription, translation and protein structures too.

I understand, but still think that some background info even very basic can help here. I gave my mom read the post and she asked me about who decided what amino acid will be connected first and second and so on...

It's always a thin line between over- and underexplaining I'm afraid. But that's why I read and answer comments: If someone like your mom wonders about how something works, they can just ask and I'll provide an answer.

Hello @suesa.
Your posts are about science and this one about acid helpfull for me. My exam will come on next Saturday and the topic is "Acid-Base". I have some preparations of my exam. This is my post about it:-
https://steemit.com/science/@pradeeprajora/theory-s-about-acid-base

nice art,, ha ha

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Its a great knowledge sharing. Good informative post. Thanks for sharing the post.

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Interesting explanation of the relation of sulfur and electrons getting transported to the folding of proteins.

Sulfur is the source of our bad odors yet, as you explained, is essential for the 3D shapes and thus the functions of our many different proteins.

Interesting that CoQ10 (ubiquinone), a very important molecule necessary for converting sugar energy into usable ATP energy for our muscles and heart, also helps, as you explained, the process of shaping proteins. CoQ10 deficiencies are much too common in elderly people resulting in weak muscles and weak hearts.

Thanks for the informative science post. Resteemed.

Looking forward to your future post on brain molecules for happiness.

Nice lecture, thanks for sharing.

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chemistry education is the best ever i see
science education is best also
carry on with science

Konten yang sangat bagus, saya menantikan yang selanjutnya

hahhah i like ur drawing, the smiley are cute :) :D

:3

That was an awesome read, thank you! I love how you started out this piece.

"This morning, I started researching for a post on what chemicals in our brain are responsible for our happiness. After an hour, I deleted everything, because I just knew that this post would be incredibly boring. Not because the subject was boring but because I was bored.@suesa"

As a person who used to deal with a great deal of depression, reading your words was like looking into a mirror of my own thoughts and realizations. What does cause depression? Is it DNA, RNA or boredom? For me the answer was boredom or to phrase it better, not doing the things with my life that make me the happiest. This is the coolest part of Steemit because through this platforn, I have been able to learn what things truly make me happy and I have also been given an outlet for sharing and learning about these things. As individuals and as a community we can learn and explore so many new things and talk with so many people from so many different cultures via Steemit. A tool bringing into the light, so many more prospective. Like a set of cameras set up to capture every angle of a shot, this platform appears to be boundless. Thx for sharing!

Start of this post is amazing, it made me read complete post... nice work

great work!

Wow, this post was very technical, definitely need a biology degree to understand what is happening here....

Can't tell if sarcasm or actual criticism

My background is so far from Biology/Science so that's why I had commented, its a very good post for those students studying that field who want to learn more

Your sketches brought life to your words. Now I know what disulfides in protein are.

Thanks for your valuable post.

thanks for sharing that educative post.

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Your in a great cycle of life. @suesa

Fun stuff and I agree, posting about something you have to learn anyway is always an amazing way to keep the stress levels under control.

Damn !! Now I understand why being happy is so complicated 🙆🏻‍♀️🤣

[...] what chemicals in our brain are responsible for our happiness. After an hour, I deleted everything [...]

This post is not about happiness. I first considered writing about that topic, but then decided against it and wrote about something else.

Oh !! All the time i was thinking that how weird is it that proteins makes us happy 😝😂

Thank you for these valuable info !

It is an informative post of proteins.It is an
educative value for all steemians.
thanks for sharing that educative post.

like your life style,not bad

It's work, work, work, like a good German minion :P

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You have the nicest way of saying fuck you!! I read it all, and mostly I love your drawings..and your ability to teach, and keep things interesting!

hahhah u just like me i like her drawing