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pharesim (74) · 5 years ago

The problem is being solved by the code. The solution is called free downvotes. They were introduced exactly for cases like yours.
Why not use your stake to benefit the whole platform? Your investment doesn't help the price when you only use it to enrich yourself. Do you really think you selling would have a long term impact on the price? That's hilarious.

You can have an impact though. A positive one. By supporting the vision and the value proposition of steem, laid out in the whitepaper.

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slowwalker (80) · 5 years ago

I totally disagree with you
It seems that you are one side mind person.
Of course, I exchange my vote, and I donate my vote sometimes.
Selling vote is not the right expression.
There could be many behaviors in vote spreading.
One thing important is Steemit can not survive with the donation system.
What you want is the platform being survived with the donation.
The system must be competitive.
We already experienced this situation in the Korean community.
I definitely tell you "YOU ARE WRONG"

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pharesim (74) · 5 years ago (edited)

You only argue from your own position, and all you can bring forward is telling everyone else that they are wrong.
You had your way for years, didn't work so well, did it? We lost tens of thousands of users in that time, many of who could've become investors if they felt appreciated.

It's not donating when you don't give away something. People either get rewarded for their work, or they will work somewhere else. Authors left for medium and other outlets, because people like you think growing their own stake is more beneficial to the value than growing the platform.

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slowwalker (80) · 5 years ago (edited)

You need to look at the problems of Steemit carefully.
The concept of POB was failed.
You need to recognize that.
I did everything including delegating my steempower to the curatiors without any rewards. But most of my try was failed.
So my conclusion is that I need keep the accounts as many as possible with spreading rewards.

So I dare to say you are wrong.

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slowwalker (80) · 5 years ago

One thing more, do you know why SCT of steemengine is successful compare to Steemit. Because the way of running SCT is the result of the failure of the way you are doing now.

You need to look at SCT.
The most important thing in SNS seems Loyalty in SCT case.
And What makes people loyal to their accounts?

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stef1 (81) · 5 years ago (edited)

Hi @pharesim, I just noticed the trail of your comment communication with @slowwalker and reading carefully through all of it I thought I must leave a message just for your information as well as any others who will be reading it.

In august 2018 me and my hubby @myskye created @art-venture project. We asked around for delegation from organization and Steemians: @fundition, @donkeypong, @theycallmedan, @slowwalker many other people I can't remember just now because few declined it immediately, the other said yes, but then we never heard anything.

Here are the original comments from one ago ago:

And that was answer two days later, without asking anything in respond just for free in order to support undervalued artists:

He is still supporting our magazine so that we have enough for leasing and also for running Art Contest in order to pay the rewards for winners.

It is funny that one year ago all that "whales" did not care about a new project that was supporting undervalued artists, the project that had nothing and started from scratch.

Now the same "whales" behaving themselves like Heros but Hey, those guys also earning 50/50 on those content creators. That is even better for them they do not need to post just randomly walk around and upvote. Therefore it is double benefit, they will not need to spend time for creating a quality contests and also because they do no posts that means they do not receive Downvotes, they still earn much more on the posts of Content Creators.

If people really looked carefully in what @slowalker does, his posts about the Culture and heritage of his country and see that he is not only supporting the friends who earn more but also many small accounts, who happy to any attention, then probably they would not behave like that.

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pharesim (74) · 5 years ago

That's nice of him. But don't be blinded by the generosity, when it's not even 0.5% of his whole stake, while a big part of the rest is still used for self voting and vote exchanges. It would be nice if he used more of it to support the rest of the community, and if he did we wouldn't be in this situation.

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stef1 (81) · 5 years ago

That time many others did self-upvote wihtout any problem until very recent but now they sound innocent. In the past non-of other whales gave us any respond just ignored. If not him then many Artists who are there and who your curation @curangel curating now would not be there many of them we started to support in 2018 but with indirect support of him.

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pharesim (74) · 5 years ago

Support of < 0.5% of his stake. Got it. No reason to look away what he's doing now.

We didn't have the tools to fight self voting before last HF. Now we do, and we use them.

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