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Great memes ;) It's a very hard concept for people I've found, even when I point out that the newest gimmick for lawyers offering to get you out of debt requires you to quit paying and let your accounts go into default. Of course I know that's because once it's picked up by a collection agency one short letter makes it go away. I say "Did you make an agreement with these people who have bought your debt? Then there is no contractual obligation, is there? If you were to take it upon yourself to pay off your neighbor's debt without consulting them, could you then walk over and demand they pay you back?" Of course it goes much deeper than that because it's all fraud to begin with, but this at least some people can grasp more easily.

It is physically impossible to pay back more money (interest) than was originally created (principal).
Banks only create principle, interest come from the bankruptcy of your neighbor.
Every dollar in your pocket is a dollar of somebody else's misery.

Yup, I know this. My husband worked on this problem for years. Unfortunately there is only so far you can go before you realize that you have three choices- be a man without person (live in the woods off the land, do not use anything of 'theirs'.) be a man who is a person (most people are this without realizing it, identifying themselves as the name instead of realizing they just are and the name is a costume) be a man who uses a person (know that you just are, but play the game because the choices, as I listed, are limited) We seriously considered dropping the person, but when we saw that we would truly have to walk naked into the wild blue, well. We do the best we can to limit the negative impact we have, no credit cards or loans etc., but we also have chosen not to take it so seriously-life I mean-it's very possible it's a game we chose to play, chose the veil of forgetfulness so it's important to remember to enjoy it as well :)

You might be better served by this guy, @marcstevens. he has taken fmotl to another level.
We just have to build the new and the kids will follow.

How funny, I know who that is, he's done a lot of neat things dealing with tickets. My husband and the people he worked with for years though, they were actually on an even deeper level. Because Marc still believes that the courtroom is needed, (I could be wrong, but I seem to remember him being an attorney) whereas we dealt with everything through filing papers, basically the idea that the only way we're going to court is if we're dragged there against our will. Legalese is an entirely different language, sounds a whole lot like ours, but the definitions they choose, not so much. Such as the word must, in our layman's language we know that word to mean "have to", in legalese it means 'may or may not'. It's also the reason that in Bill Clinton's trial when he was asked a question he responded, "That depends on what the word IS, is" because there are something like nine different definitions for that word alone, and if you're not constantly questioning them they will use whatever definition they see fit to use. If you do go to court, it is extremely important that everything you say is posed as a question, make NO statements whatsoever. It's a very intricate, complicated and ultimately exhausting game. It's also largely based on the Bible which is a book of law. (Judges in their black priestly robes costume) It's been turned into something mystical because there is nothing more effective to control a population than convincing them to be afraid, be very afraid, of an eternal life of torment. Interestingly enough the word eternity actually means "A long, long time". And the word Hell is "A debtor's prison under the court of Exchequer" which was an actual place prior to the late 1800's, here on earth, nothing to do with an afterlife.
Anyway, the paper game is much easier. There are few things that can't be handled by filing papers in the proper forums.
But after years of constant study we got so deep inside the rabbit hole (especially my husband) that we ultimately found...let's just say that if you flip to the end of the Bible (or the script...-ure)you will find there are empty pages. We think we're at a very unique place in history where the script they were following is over (not that they won't continue following it, it serves them to do so) and we can write our own scripts. It is time for the dreamers and inventors, the creators in this realm to shine. And none too soon since it really is only a matter of time before robots do everything that doesn't require the divine spirit of man that dreams and creates and invents.

@marcstevens, not a lawyer.
Agrees on 'only ask questions'.
Agrees on going to court only when forced, but for some folks being forced into court is an occasional hazard.
His 'Marcratic' method has helped me, a lot.

Do you know Eric Whoru, also?
I've met him in person.
He was very nice, as odd people tend to be.

Saturnalia is the black robed god they are worshiping, or so I read.

If you ask me, I'll tell ya that Dec21st 2012 was the end of the world as we knew it.
That world was ruled by force.
From that day forward the forces of good will come to be dominant and the death throes of evil will ensue.
Hopefully they go quietly, but nobody really believes that, that I know.

To the robots I say bring 'em on, death to the crapitlust bs.

Okay, I think I actually have him and another Marc (actually it's probably Mark) confused, although I do know his name associated with helping people out of tickets :)
Yes, it does seem like it's taking them a bit to catch on that their reign is over. I'm not generally into astrology, but I wonder if it's the phasing out the pisces era and into the age of aquarius. People tend to think it just switches over, but maybe it's a process.

If they only change every 25,000 years I'd imagine that they take their time getting going.
I see the end of rule by force getting closer, I just wish we didn't have to take our freedoms back by force.
Until enough of us rise up, slavery to the most violent is our only option.
Rule by bully sux.
If you want to explore what has worked in court for me here is the link: http://marcstevens.net

Money (and a price structure in a free market process) helps steer labor toward more beneficial production though.

Money doesn't do squat but perpetuate the status quo.
If you can't keep your goods in stock ask for help, if you can't give your goods away, find something else to do.
Orders are how we allocate resources.
No orders, send the labor/resources elsewhere.

Before you can look outside the box, you have to admit there is a box.
Have the rich people been running the planet for millennia?
Figure they would like to keep it that way?
Enough to mis-inform the kids?

IF the rich admitted the truth in what I say they would be putting the first nail in their coffin, and they know that.