Okay, but who gives the money then? The answer is no one. Nobody on Hive gave you the money. Hive was a 1:1 copy to Steem, so you had Hive, just like you had Steem.
And these people had their money, until they disappeared from their accounts and went to another account.
If the stake used to attack the chain wasn't addressed, then the attack would continue. As Dan Larimer, the designer and creator said, we are supposed to remove the tokens of people that attack the chain. Attack means a single entity controlling multiple witness positions. The instructions of the creator were followed. Ignorance isn't justification. Replace ignorance with learning, not with ill treatment of others
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First, Dan Larimer is an idiot.
Second, looking from the blockchain side, it was a steal
Thirdly, the whole HIVE project is quite controversial, because it means that you can manipulate the blockchain.
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Good job arguing with these idiots. You know you are right, they know you are right, but they will never admit to it because they know what they did, and they aren't protected by CCP, and they risk legal issues if they admit it was a coin wipe and thievery.
You're basically talking to a wall
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Dan Larimer might be a lot of things but he is not an idiot.
Claiming so shows what an ignorant fuck you are.
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Definitely a misuse of the word "idiot" if I ever heard one. The word was used in its context for being derogatory rather than descriptive.
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If he wasn't an idiot, he wouldn't have made a system that was easy to attack. You can say whatever you want. If a DPoS system is supposed to require (at least some users think) blocking someone's account, it means that it is bad for a very simple reason. A couple of people decide who to steal money from.
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If Dan Larimer is an idiot, quit using his products
Looking from blockchain side? What is that supposed to mean?
ALL blockchains can be forked
Again, this ignorance is astounding. Why are you so against learning? Does it make you feel good to spew ignorance? Go. Learn.
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He ran away from Steem like a rat.
I'll ask you differently - how many blockchain data are modified? Wasn't Blockchain supposed to be an immutable database?
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just look at any of the bitcoin.X (gold diamond black whatever blurp etc) forks.
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Of course they don't count in the market, but I guess none of them modified the blockchain, just introduced their solutions.
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Blockchains are immutable, that's why they fork to make changes. Bitcoin has forked multiple times. Eth has forked multiple times - famously, the sole purpose of one of those forks was to move funds. Steem has been forked many times and had it's data modified. Go read about blockchains. I'm sorry somebody told you wrong or you made false assumptions, but being ignorant of reality doesn't change reality
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But most Bitcoin "forks" was "soft forks" that don't break any rules.
Unless you mean fork like BCH. Yeah, there were some, but NO one modified the blockchain content
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untrue.
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I'll ask you another question. Did you make that proposal on Hive? Maybe I'll support you there. There should be no difference
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PoW and PoS (DPoS is a type of PoS) work very differently. I know it makes you feel righteous to be ignorant, but I'll leave you with this final suggestion - GO READ
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I see the theory coming up here. You're wrong, and unfortunately you can see it.
But if you recognize that Hive has the right to censor people in the name of the "higher good" - you have to acknowledge that Steem has that right too.
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Incorrect. Hive was almost a 1:1 copy of Steem. But not completely. It excluded 350 accounts out of 1.3 million.
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Universe truth : Every action has reaction. It may be late but not forgotton.
Hivemanis started action, steemians do reaction.
See from starting day 1 of drama, always action started by hivemians and reaction done by steemians. Hivemians also don't wants reaction. That's not fair.
I think we all have over and all loss by this drama. When this drama will end. I dont know....... but i don't like all this.
I am not happy with this action but i have to support.
See from deep heart( take deep breath, stay cam then think), you will know all.
Without community, No invester get success and without invester, no community get success. Both required each other.
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I´m 100% agreeing with your comment, that´s what I´m writing since weeks, and all the old witnesses and their friends is telling me I´m dumb and ignoring fact that they had the right to do so, maybe needs more time to think over for them .
I don´t give up to see the light at the end of the street ;)
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Thanks @don-t for your understanding the real truth before all understand. Thanks.
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Your welcome @mehta, I´m a business man in real life and like there here is also some rules and this rules are the same for all, it is not acceptable that some state this does not count on them because they are right, that´s not true you can´t measure with two meters.
I seems like they act as writen in the cristian Bible -eye for eye, and tooth for tooth, this is really crazy and for sure not helpful to find peace between the two counterparts.
sunny greetings from Andalusia (Spain)
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True, Thanks man.
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Your support to steem from starting not forgoten in any manner. You are the good and technical person. We can't forget your contribution. You are awesome. Thanks for all.
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Imagine, as your family elder dies, leaving a will sharing out their savings to all EXCEPT you, because you were a massive disappointment who did nothing but harm the family business.
Did your elder steal YOUR money...?
Of course not, that would be ridiculous. You never, at any point in your life, owned his wealth. As far as you're concerned, it never existed.
The problem you have is an emotional one, and I get it. You feel left out. But it's ridiculous.
Imagine going to a lawyer:
Lawyer: So... did you ever own Hive tokens?
You: No, but it's mine
Lawyer: On what grounds?
You: Cuz everyone else has Hive tokens
Lawyer: Please get out of my office
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Right, first all my assets was seen on Hive too 1 to 1. I was denied access to the wallet, then everything was transferred to steem.dao. What is it other than robbery. I had never voted for witnesses myself. My proxy was Berniesanders. He had chosen a Sun witness for fun. I was therefore excluded from the airdrop.
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How can something that never existed for you and was never in your possession be stolen from you? If the new chain was being created to have parameters in place to air drop funds to people that were not supporting the certain witnesses and you were one of them that were supporting them and were excluded from getting that drop, then you never got anything. You were never in possession of any Hive for it to be stolen from you. How hard is that for you to understand? Nothing was stolen, you were just not eligible for it.
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