@steemcleaners WTF?

in spam •  7 years ago  (edited)

This is a Youtuber with over 1,000 subscribers and your flagging his shit? How is this gonna help our community and reputation?

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Thanks @mrwang, I tried to make similar points to YellowFever4U on his original Steemit post. It's important to differentiate between Steemit the platform/community/currency and steemcleaners. I understand YelloFever4U's frustration, but he could provide better, more targeted criticism of steemcleaners' behavior, rather than blaming Steem itself. Hopefully if he hears it from multiple people, he'll change to be more effective.

Agreed

People should read the whitepaper, specifically:

Eliminating “abuse” is not possible and shouldn’t be the goal. Even those who are attempting
to “abuse” the system are still doing work. Any compensation they get for their successful
attempts at abuse or collusion is at least as valuable for the purpose of distributing the
currency as the make-work system employed by traditional Bitcoin mining or the collusive
mining done via mining pools. All that is necessary is to ensure that abuse isn’t so rampant
that it undermines the incentive to do real work in support of the community and its
currency.
The goal of building a community currency is to get more “crabs in the bucket”. Going to
extreme measures to eliminate all abuse is like attempting to put a lid on the bucket to
prevent a few crabs from escaping and comes at the expense of making it harder to add new
crabs to the bucket. It is sufficient to make the walls slippery and give the other crabs
sufficient power to prevent others from escaping.

Linking youtube content is fair use and granted by the youtube license. Anything that is granted a license to use in any manner you see fit is ok to post on Steem. Steem isn't only about about creating original content, it's about creating work for the blockchain. The whitepaper, which few will read, goes into great detail about this.

Posting any content, of which I have a license, to the blockchain provides value to my followers is in and of itself "original" and provides "work". As long as you are not using content you don't have rights for all legitimate posts should be allowed and ignored by the cleaners.

If I take pictures from NASA of the moon landing and I spend the time to publish them on the Steem blockchain and my followers enjoy the format in which I have displayed it for those users I am doing work and the people who upvote are curating that work for the network.

Did I go to the moon? No. Did I take the pictures myself? No. Did I present them in a way that others can easily see and appreciate them? Yes. Is it OK for me to do that since it is public domain? Yes.

Steemit's going to fail hard because of these Steemcleaners, one's just asked me to verify that I own my youtube channel.
All this doesn't seem so decentralised to me...

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

i am not a steemcleaner just tagged them

every post you've made is all copy and pasted with link
#identityfraud
your account here links to youtube but none from bitcoinboy's verified accounts linking here

you need to stop this shit stupid who are you to judge people , and you have no steem power you just wasting your time

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

anybody can identify when something is plagiarism

steemit is full of spam unless is dealt with will destroy spam

nowhere needs people copy and paste/plagarism/spam filling with shit

please remove flag spam

I really suggest you verify.. this shouldn't be such a huge issue as your making it

isacoin I appreciate and understand what your trying do within the Steemit community, but the youtube channel 'BitCoinBoy' is mine; and after this comment I can now understand your confusion better.
I only joined Steemit around a week ago, the account name 'bitcoinboy' was already in use; I could however have used the screen name 'bitcoinboy' but didn't choose to do this to avoid confusion (this appears not to of worked) with the Steemit user who already has the 'bitcoinboy' account.
I see you commented on my youtube channel to which I replied, I hope this has cleared up any confusion.

I don't want to come across as hostile in any kind of way but double check before flagging content as you could do irreversible damage to someone's Steemit profile.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

thanks for verifying.
I noticed most of your videos
weren't created by you
and you haven't changed or added value to them
this infringes on IP rights and you cant promote here

Interesting, thanks for sharing.. well check more into it, later

And just how is allowing a referral spammer to continue doing so just because he has followers on another platform going to help steemit? I don't care if he has a million followers spam is spam and if steemcleaners doesn't flag it I will.

Well you do you, pat yourself on the back... I'm talking to @steemcleaners not you 😂😂😂

YellowFever4U who is better Youtuber I am a subscriber in the channel

flagging his shit? How is this gonna help our community and reputation?

I never got the full comment from steemitcleaners on my post but it was flagged and I have not received any rewards from it. I posted a video on here from my youtube channel and thought it would be okay since I see a lot of people doing it but it was flagged and currently sitting at $0.00 with 6 votes on it.. I wish they would ask the person if its their video with some proof to see if they are lying or not. But from that I learned and now I put a little disclaimer with proof that its actually my video and so far that has worked.

People always talk about the whales and minnows. MF'ers forget about the piranhas. I don't know who YellowFever4U is, but his sentiment should be heeded.