Why It Was Stupid to Allow CM Punk to Fight in the UFC

in sportstalk •  5 years ago 

It might seem a bit odd to say, but I felt validated as CM Punk embarrassed himself in the octagon against Mickey Gall back in 2016. I had been against the idea of him fighting in the UFC since it was announced in 2014 and there are a few reasons why.

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Skipping the Queue

We all know that celebrities are treated differently to the rest of us mere mortals on Earth. Preferential treatment isn't anything new, but I found it a massive shame that the UFC would allow someone to join the organisation without having any previous fight history.

I've been a fan of MMA for many years and something that has been clear to me from the start is the amount of sacrifice these fighters make in order to follow their dream of being a professional. Just take a look at the fighters who have made an appearance on The Ultimate Fighter over the years. These shows are full of guys who have given up regular lives and have at times had to live away from their families just to get a shot of entering the UFC.

Many of them have fought countless fights within smaller organisations to tiny crowds and little pay. They train in local gyms full of working-class coaches and peers and give everything they've got to years of training and diet dedication. This isn't something that comes easily to these guys. You can see it on their faces when they are eliminated from the show. It's all they've ever wanted.

The fact that CM Punk was given a multi-fight contract without having to do any of this is frankly insulting to the sport in general and also to the fighters who have been grinding for years. This is a man who has proven nothing in combat sports. I had a feeling that he would be less than useless inside the octagon and that proved to be the case when Mickey Gall easily disposed of him. Make no mistake, Gall is a talented fighter, but he himself isn't in anyone's top 10s. I would put a lot of money on the fact that the majority of fighters who haven't even made it to the UFC would put CM Punk to sleep without breaking a sweat.

To make things worse, but compounding my initial thoughts, CM Punk was scheduled to fight again. Why the UFC decided to allow this is a mystery to me. Even if his name brings in a few extra PPV buys, was anyone really interested after his first whooping? Mike Jackson was to be his next opponent, someone who also lost to Mickey Gall. Now it made sense; let's try to make things as easy as possible for CM Punk. And what do you know, he got absolutely smashed again without any effort on Jackson's behalf. In fact, Dana White was furious after the fight because Jackson was simply toying with CM Punk when he could have finished it at any time he wanted.

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Tainting the Brand

MMA and the UFC, in particular, have fought hard for many years to gain respect for the sport. Long gone are the days of people thinking this is a joke organisation full of mindless violence. Rule changes and the influence of time have finally allowed the sport to be unbanned in many states and the organisation is stacked with talent.

Back when I first started watching UFC it was a lot less technical. MMA back then was actually more about the clash of two styles. For example, you'd have a kickboxer fighting a wrestler. It wasn't so much about having a good all-around game which is what's required these days even though fighters have their specialities. The majority of professionals back then, as good as they were, wouldn't stand a chance against the modern MMA fighter.

The only reason to promote someone like CM Punk to the UFC is a cash grab. Sales would have been up as people around the world tuned in to see how this fake wrestler does against a real martial artist. However, I really don't see the point. There are only two outcomes I can foresee for this kind of behaviour and neither of them is particularly good for the sport.

  • CM Punk wins and the world now thinks MMA is a joke because anyone can do it. This was also apparent before the fight when a multitude of fake wrestlers started calling people out on Twitter.
  • CM Punk gets smashed and the organisation looks stupid for adding him to the roster. Long-term fighters also question why someone of such low quality is being paid to fight while they're grinding away for very little reward.

An Alternative Option

What I would have preferred to see if CM Punk was serious about wanting to become an MMA fighter is for him to go away and fight in a small organisation first. There are multiple benefits to this. Firstly, it would give him a chance to prove his ability before stepping on to the largest MMA stage in the world. Secondly, it would provide a smaller organisation with the chance to promote a celebrity name and increase their exposure and revenue.

If it didn't work out then CM Punk wouldn't have ever had the chance to embarrass himself in the UFC and a smaller organisation would have made some extra cash from his name.

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The Future of MMA

MMA is in a great place at the moment. Fight cards are stacked from top to bottom and the skill level now seen in the UFC is increasing all the time. My hope is that Dana and the UFC have learned from the CM Punk experiment and stop trying to force broken PPV records by adding celebrity names to the fight cards with no valid basis. If not, we might end up with Usain Bolt in the octagon after he's given up on his newly found football career. No thanks.

Something that worried me recently was the aftermath of the Logan Paul vs KSI boxing match. If you watched this fight you'll know that it was a complete joke. There was no quality there at all. Yet, after the fight, Logan Paul was calling out UFC fighters. There was even a popular YouTuber known as the True Geordie who had the nerve to suggest that Logan Paul would destroy Cris Cyborg. Are you kidding me? Someone get the shovel because she would bury him in the first round.

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Freaking on point, MMA makes me wince too much and Cauliflower ears freak me out but I need to toughen up and make it through an actual match without being too much of a "girl"
"nice article dear" :P

I believe in you, BA ;)

Great article, I agree! It's all about the money my friend.

People get confused when they think that the UFC etc are genuine sports leagues, they are just large promotions who are there to make bank.

It really is a shame. I have enjoyed a lot of smaller organisations recently. Less cash-grabs, less drama, just good old MMA fights. Bellator and BAMMA are enjoyable.

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While it might sound stupid to you, it actually isn't.

The only reason to promote someone like CM Punk to the UFC is a cash grab. Sales would have been up as people around the world tuned in to see how this fake wrestler does against a real martial artist. However, I really don't see the point.

UFC is a money-making machine, looking at things from a fan's perspective you don't see the bigger picture that is more eyes on MMA sport the better.

Why would you let CM Punk lose a fight in some smaller promotion?

It loses all the magic and UFC would never sign him afterward.

The guy had a few years to train and he doesn't suck at all, he probably beats mine and your ass together but is not and never will be a world-class fighter.

Can't wait to read your "Bieber VS Cruz" post as Dana said he's down to make that fight in the UFC ;)

Well, that's the point isn't it? It's a good idea from a money-making perspective, but from the angle of actually wanting MMA to not become a bit of a joke, it's terrible.

The only thing I can do is vote with my wallet, sadly. I certainly wouldn't buy the PPV for Bieber!

The thing is, we've already seen that it doesn't work. CM Punk was smashed to bits twice. There was very little entertainment there unless you don't like the guy and want to see a trained MMA fighter hurt him. Bieber would be even worse. I doubt he'd last 30 seconds.

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but from the angle of actually wanting MMA to not become a bit of a joke, it's terrible.

Why because the guy decided to try MMA at 35 or whatever he was at that point? I give him props for having the balls. Or because he comes from WWE (btw i don't watch that sh*t)?

Let me remind you of Brock Lesnar who was UFCs biggest PPV star at one point came from WWE.

Jack Swagger is another WWE guy who transitioned to MMA and is killing cans in bellator.

Greg Hardy for instance (altho he had a few fights before signing with the UFC) is "old" for the standards of this sport, but is killing people right now.

The deal with CM was, Dana wanted to put him on the Ultimate Fighter first but he declined. Of course, the UFC still wanted to gamble on the outcomes that CM might become a new star or will get demolished as you said in your post but I in no shape or form see it as a bad move for MMA.

Yeah Bieber was then called out by Steve-O, we will see what happens :)

https://steemit.com/meme/@kid4life/the-rise-and-fall-of-cm-punk--your-welcome-phil-funny-memes-must-watch-material

I did make this for Phil a while ago talking shi*t as well haha

Nah, that's not it at all. I think it's great he wanted to try it. My issue is that UFC is the pinnacle of MMA. People spend most of their lives training and grinding away for the chance to even get to an undercard of UFC.

With CM Punk, his celebrity status meant he didn't have to put in the work that everyone else did. That was my problem with it. That's why I think if he was genuinely serious about wanting to try MMA, he could have done it at a lower level first.

There was no requirement for him to have any form of quality to his martial arts skills and it really showed.

Let's say I want to play football professionally. I'd have to work my way up through the lower levels for years before I got a shot at playing in the Premier League. Do you think a celebrity could decide to play in the Premier League with no footballing history? I severely doubt it.

That's why it's a cash grab on behalf of the UFC. Now, I understand why they did it. I also sympathise with your argument that it's good to get people watching. However, to my detriment, I am probably an MMA purist. I love the sport and don't care about who is fighting as long as it's top level. This just didn't match up with why I watch it.

There was no chance at all that CM Punk would have become a star. The UFC is filled with the world's most elite MMA fighters. He just didn't have the required skillset as he'd never trained as an MMA fighter. Even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was naturally gifted, a year of training isn't enough to compete at that level.

P.S, thanks for interacting like this. It's exactly what I'd hoped this platform could provide!

With CM Punk, his celebrity status meant he didn't have to put in the work that everyone else did.

I definitely agree he had an easier path than other people trying to make bank in the UFC. No doubt about it.

Let's say I want to play football professionally. I'd have to work my way up through the lower levels for years before I got a shot at playing in the Premier League. Do you think a celebrity could decide to play in the Premier League with no footballing history? I severely doubt it.

Of course, not. Usain Bolt has some skills from what I heard but can't get even near a solid club even if he wanted to. But, MMA/fighting, in general, is not like any other sport at the moment. While I can't see anyone becoming a world-class football player in a matter of a few years with no background what so ever, there are a ton of cases like that in MMA.

There was no chance at all that CM Punk would have become a star. The UFC is filled with the world's most elite MMA fighters. He just didn't have the required skillset as he'd never trained as an MMA fighter.

Duke" Roufus is a former kickboxer and head coach of the Roufusport where Tyron Woodley, the Pettis brothers and a ton of other people train at.

CM put a lot of work in before his fight, 2 years and some change. Duke said he never saw a guy so committed to something like this and I believe him. The fact is CM, is not naturally talented to be a fighter. He is stiff, no movement in his legs like you see pros do it. I think he would need a few more years before becoming a solid fighter (not UFC level probably).

Yeah my pleasure man. Happy to see we are all getting along here at #sportstalksocial. Enjoy your day!

Yep I agree. CM punk is just a wwe performer. Not strong enough to be a part of UFC. He was only boosted by wwe and he did what a coward man do. Left wwe and he thought to make a career out of it.

He was only boosted by wwe and he did what a coward man do. Left wwe and he thought to make a career out of it.

Yes, a brave man would 4ever stay in WWE and not go after his dream... BEING IN A REAL FIGHT sounds so much more cowardly :)

I think we will see CM Punk once more before he retires after a short-lived MMA career.

Oh so do you think UFC is real?
These are all scripted.
No, we’ll never see him again as he said by himself never in a million years

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Big LOL yes I think the UFC is real. You should see how people get their head open sometimes..

Oh wait, they use ketchap for blood scenes right? Smh

But don't you think all matches are scripted?

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Dana: Okay guys one of you two will have to beat the shit out of the other. Possibly put him in a coma okay?

Fighter 1: Yeah sure, I'm training like crazy for this day.

Fighter 2: Me too, I will beat the shit out of you.

Fighter 1: ?!?

Dana: Awesome, don't let anyone know tho. We might lose our promoting license, lose BILLIONS of dollars and never book a UFC fight again just so we can script a fight nobody cares about.

Hahahha!
Okay
Finally I agree that UFC is 100% real.