Moving to hive

nonameslefttouse (74) · 6 years ago (edited)

How to Make an Original Meme

Step 1: Create an image using software or a camera yourself.
Step 2: Put words on the image yourself.

Example:
His name is spot.jpg

Simple!

So why not just do it the honest way?

What good are those rewards when you get sued by those assholes who work for the big media corporations?

Just adding this bit in:

I checked the dmania tag under the 'new' tab. As of this writing, based on the past two hours... clearly, not many are interested in these meme posts. Maybe some are, but I'm only seeing 1 or 2 votes on majority of those posts and a lot of $0's. Two hours worth of dmania posts. Hardly any views or votes. I think that says a lot about the true value.

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cryptosharon (69) · 6 years ago

Hmmmm, https://reddit.com/r/dankmemes

It may be something accepted by the whole of society, but it doesn't make it right. However, it's not something that can be demanded of every memer, since memes were born from unattributed modification and usage.

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nonameslefttouse (74) · 6 years ago

They were also being passed around for free. Nobody was getting paid. I recently read how the owner of the grumpy cat photos was rewarded nearly 1 million dollars in a lawsuit of sorts. That money has to come from somewhere. Since money is now involved here, it's a slippery slope. Since some of us use pseudonyms and can't be easily tracked down, those lawyers who make a living looking for ways to sue people would just go straight to Dmania. If you're running a business, it's only common sense to have all of your ducks in a row.

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baah (61) · 6 years ago

It's not a business.

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nonameslefttouse (74) · 6 years ago

What is it?

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baah (61) · 6 years ago

It's an Entertainment, it's an Education, it's Community Forums and more than anything it's a Co-Op.

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abjectpermanence (43) · 6 years ago (edited)

Copyright infringement doesn't have to be profitable for it to be copyright infringement. Money needn't be involved at all. You're right that people often don't take interest until money is involved, but it's still copyright infringment to steal Grumpy Cat's likeness whether you're getting 10 SBD from it or whether you're getting 100 karma on reddit.

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baah (61) · 6 years ago

You don't steal the Intangible, it's reproducible without any effort on your part, when you Make up a Dance and then claim that others owe you credit, however small or it's "copyright infringement" they can roll their eyes knowing that monopolizing ideas is counter to freedom of expression and let you try to extort them for expressing an idea.

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abjectpermanence (43) · 6 years ago

I agree philosophically, but that's not how law in the USA works. You and I might roll our eyes to see posting unlicensed Grumpy Cat memes be considered a form of "stealing", but that's how intellectual property law works.

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cryptosharon (69) · 6 years ago

I don't think the law says "stealing". Copyright laws have words that make more sense for the topic, such as unauthorised copying, reproduction, unlicensed distribution, etc.

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baah (61) · 6 years ago

Yeah, that's why you have to keep it PLAIN because Unauthorized copying means Stealing. Or when the judge calls you up you ask him to his face if he could clarify what unauthorized copying means, because it's clearly Stealing of Work. Licenses by definition are there to allow people to do what otherwise is ILLEGAL AND UNLAWFUL (both).

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ackza (72) · 6 years ago

Tell that to @grumpycat LOL

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baah (61) · 6 years ago

So what do I care, those are PRIVATE LAWS. Read the fine print, you think Citizen and Sovereign could ever describe the same thing?

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havok777 (68) · 6 years ago

USA be damned!! Another faceless corporation

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cryptosharon (69) · 6 years ago

Check artopium's response below for a lawyer's view on the image plagiarism issue.

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nonameslefttouse (74) · 6 years ago

I still believe original content producers should be rewarded while the plagiarists get nothing. There's enough bad press about anything cryptocurrency related. Some people still think it's a dark web tool to purchase guns and drugs. We don't need to follow the same road as napster when we already know the outcome. That's the part I think @artopium is missing. Lawyers step in, the media steps in, the place gets a bad name, all of these investors lose. It's simple stuff and we've already seen what happens in the past.

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cryptosharon (69) · 6 years ago

I agree with your view. It would suck for that to happen to Steem and to the blockchain in general. But today we're in the age of uncensorship, whistleblowers, freedom of information, insurgent journalism. This is just the logical consequence and it is bound, regardless of our choices today, to keep growing in that direction.

And it will be accepted by the hivemind because it will theoretically allow journalists to publish undeletable work, uncensorable words. Imagine a perfect Wikileaks or a clearnet Tor. I think that's where Steem leads no matter the efforts toward cleansing the improper content.

I myself am working on a search tool for the blockchain. It's not advanced at all, but it would allow to get low rep and high rep results equally. Votes would not matter much in the end if this succeeds.

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nonameslefttouse (74) · 6 years ago

Those journalists would be publishing original content. I fully support having freedoms and the benefits that come along with a free and open society. History shows us those who abuse freedoms are the ones who typically ruin it for everyone else. People can protest, but as soon as someone starts smashing windows, they all get the pepper spray. That's an abuse of freedom. Just because the windows are there and just because they can be smashed, that doesn't mean it's a good idea to smash them. Embrace freedom, enjoy it, there's no need to abuse it.

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littleboy (72) · 6 years ago

Well, then memers may demonetize their work if them want to meme. Posts in the steem blockchain are monetized.

devi1714 (57) · 6 years ago

I have to agree here. Memes in essence are pretty much stolen photos/images that the creators (of the memes) have no rights to. These then spread all over the internet and it seems as if no one cares about the origins of the contents. Posting to Steemit however is different straight away, as everything here is monetised.

There are some good incentives here to create original memes (such as competitions), but they are overwhelmed by the amount of non-original/stolen memes. I have always disliked memes, but DMania is a new level since everything there is automatically monetised.

I think people view it as an easy way to make money. Posting memes (and those daily quotes which have just been taken off the internet...) is about the easiest thing you can do to attempt to make money here.

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cryptosharon (69) · 6 years ago

They could, but they probably won't. Rules are such a fickle thing in the face of social acceptance.

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artopium (66) · 6 years ago

I agree @cryptosharon. Pointing figures as to who stole what image first is in and of itself a slippery slope. And to settle the debate: because I've personally dealt with lawyers involving copy rights as well as unauthorized publication, no lawyer will take any case to court unless damages can be proven. The prosecuting party must show how they explicitly, and monetarily suffered from the direct actions of the offending publisher. In other words, stealing an image and making a few dollars on it is not enough to go to court, even if it does technically violate a statute. The original owners have to demonstrate in court how this negatively impacted their own finances.

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hendrafuadi (27) · 6 years ago

so , what should i do ??

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baah (61) · 6 years ago

If Copying is Stealing.

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hendrafuadi (27) · 6 years ago

of course no , copying is copy , and stealing is steal , good luck

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baah (61) · 6 years ago

and your comment doesn't say anything

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cryptosharon (69) · 6 years ago (edited)

I didn't say 'stealing', I said 'unattributed modification and usage'. I could have added digital reproduction, but that's obvious since we're talking about memes.

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baah (61) · 6 years ago

Therefore Unattributed Modification and Usage is in the context of Stealing Ideas, it cannot escape being in that context, or it resolves to be the UTMOST pettiness that can be demonstrated: To WANT attribution and Notice if someone changes your idea, as if you thinking of something makes it EXCLUSIVELY yours, regardless if it's a recipe, a dance or an illustrative representation.

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cryptosharon (69) · 6 years ago

The usual usage of that "notice" is not to tell the author that their idea has been reused but to ask the author for permission to use the idea. It is petty, but humans are self-centred and self-interested. I surely am.

as if you thinking of something makes it EXCLUSIVELY yours

Going back to research, Let's say I spend a decade working on thousands of monkeys, secluded in a laboratory in dangerous conditions, trying to identify the gene that causes early-onset Alzheimer's. Let's say I get a satisfactory result and write my words in a Word document in my computer. But there is someone in the building to whom I've trusted my thoughts and well, he thinks that he would probably get a nice monetary reward if he published my words first.

So he hacks into my computer, extracts the document, sends it to an editor, then to the Nature magazine, and here I am sitting in my lab, having used all my life for what I wanted, but I get no attribution for my work. I will spend my years in solitude while my friend spends his life in conferences and luxurious hotel rooms describing to scientists my experiences as I told them to him.

It's not a dance or a recipe, it's work that requires time to create. It's an investment that is easily devalued by the indifference of others toward the expected compromise of exclusivity.

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baah (61) · 6 years ago

The usual usage of that "notice" is not to tell the author that their idea has been reused but to ask the author for permission to use the idea. It is petty, but humans are self-centred and self-interested. I surely am.

THen you deserve the war, famine and hate that the world is filled with, reap it.

Going back to research, Let's say I spend a decade working on thousands of monkeys, secluded in a laboratory in dangerous conditions, trying to identify the gene that causes early-onset Alzheimer's. Let's say I get a satisfactory result and write my words in a Word document in my computer. But there is someone in the building to whom I've trusted my thoughts and well, he thinks that he would probably get a nice monetary reward if he published my words first.

Then make better friends.

So he hacks into my computer, extracts the document, sends it to an editor, then to the Nature magazine, and here I am sitting in my lab, having used all my life for what I wanted, but I get no attribution for my work. I will spend my years in solitude while my friend spends his life in conferences and luxurious hotel rooms describing to scientists my experiences as I told them to him.

Then make better security protocols.

It's not a dance or a recipe, it's work that requires time to create. It's an investment that is easily devalued by the indifference of others toward the expected compromise of exclusivity.

Why did you want to do all that research? To get compensated, get famous? can he ever STEAL the idea, do you go without ideas once he takes it? Can you not continue that research? It's not ok to go into MEDICINE, SCIENCE with the ultimate motive to make BANK from your fame, and discovery. Go chocke on a microphone to a pop beat, that would be much more lucrative, and let the people who invest their own talents into researching cures for Alzheimers do it simply to find the cure, and any compensation afterwards would be the icing on the cake.

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accra (52) · 6 years ago

Asiide from plagarism why would i waste my time posting whe @dtube takes such a huge reward chunk. One cpuld just post the meme directly to steemit.

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sku77-poprocks (67) · 6 years ago

It's DMANIA Bruh,,,

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limabeing (56) · 6 years ago

Honestly if a meme of a video doesn't go viral then its not a meme. Its just a funny picture with words.

meme
mēm/Submit
noun
an element of a culture or system of behavior that may be considered to be passed from one individual to another by nongenetic means, especially imitation.
a humorous image, video, piece of text, etc., that is copied (often with slight variations) and spread rapidly by Internet users.

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anarchistwisdom (51) · 6 years ago (edited)

everyone on this site is delusional anyway smh.

They need to bring actual meme lords here instead of trying to do it themselves, this appeals to no one.

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nonameslefttouse (74) · 6 years ago

Everyone?

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anarchistwisdom (51) · 6 years ago (edited)

maybe not everyone, but the vast majority definitely. I can count the ones I have met that aren't on one hand.

if I don't include the ones i brought myself ofc

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cryptosharon (69) · 6 years ago

Can confirm, am delusional.

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baah (61) · 6 years ago

Astute Observation.

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limabeing (56) · 6 years ago

Wow you busted out the caps?!? Trying to figure out is this is sarcasm or you really want to give a nobel commenting prize

baah (61) · 6 years ago

The later of course.

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limabeing (56) · 6 years ago

Cool do just an asahst. Good to know. I so like your addition to the discussion "memes are meh"

So glad you came here to clear that up!

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baah (61) · 6 years ago

How glad?

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josteem (58) · 6 years ago

Yep you are true. However people who post on Instagram or the like .. most of them do it for fun not waiting any financial return.

the lack here is the popularity !

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baah (61) · 6 years ago

Memes are Meh.

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hendrafuadi (27) · 6 years ago

i like this anime

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jankos55 (46) · 6 years ago

The thing about them being plagiarized is not true . Why ??! Because Copyrights and Patents Act clearly states that it is not a breach if the content is used for purposes of humour . Dmania is all about humour and having fun which relates to what I just said . It is not a plagiarism if is used for this sole purpose . I do agree that it might be better to give credits to those who made it .

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nonameslefttouse (74) · 6 years ago

It's a waste of resources having ONE meme spammed countless times on this blockchain. We don't allow others to copy posts from the trending page to their blog in an attempt to earn. You wouldn't be impressed if you wrote a blog post and someone copied it and ended up earning more than you. Here, we're given the opportunity to create, publish and get paid for our efforts. People can create memes for free and pass them around or they can come here, create a meme, get paid for being original if people enjoy it, then pass it around on other social media. This place can be used as a tool, not a dumping ground for people looking to make money from another's efforts. It is considered plagiarism to take someone else's creation and attempt to earn money here. Like I said, just do it the honest way. It's not hard and you get paid more than you would if you created the meme anywhere else. Why people are arguing this common sense is beyond me.

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jankos55 (46) · 6 years ago

Yeah , I know what you mean . Memes are constantly being spammed . Most of these are not worth more than $0.01 but some do get constant $2 or more which is quite disturbing . I am trying to learn on how to properly create content but it's actually hard with no specific guidelines . I do see some people trying to give such valuable information but it is still quite insufficient . The other side is that people are way too lazy.

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whatsup (75) · 6 years ago

The same thing happens everywhere on steem. Don't blame the tools, blame those who will not flag and the bad actors.

I like dmania.

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berniesanders (77) · 6 years ago (edited)

Blame those who won't waste their voting power (earning potential) to consistently flag trash that is upvoted by one service mainly supported by the CEO of Steemit? Sure.

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inertia (73) · 6 years ago

I like dmaina. I'm staking them because I think they have a pretty good strategy on rewards distribution. It can't be done perfectly and I get it when there are examples of rewards going to people who didn't create the original content.

I'm curious, have you read their faq?

https://dmania.lol/faq

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7 votes

berniesanders (77) · 6 years ago (edited)

You get it that they're taking advantage of the community, earning rewards, by upvoting and rewarding stolen content?

A useful service would be one that takes the time to reward users and content that have been verified as original, especially when those users are earning $40+ for a single image, with @dmania taking a decent cut of each of those.

I have not read their FAQ, nor is there any way for them to try to explain their way around laziness and dishonesty.

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inertia (73) · 6 years ago

Well, it's about scalability. They can't manually look at each piece of content. They had 1,500 posts to look at today, almost 1,700 yesterday. If their automation has a few bad hits, I see that as an acceptable trade for competing with the other free services.

Are you looking for a perfect record or is there an acceptable level you'd be able to overlook?

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berniesanders (77) · 6 years ago

Rewarding $2 to someone who stole an image...sure, I can live with that. But, rewarding someone $40+ for that is absolutely fucking ridiculous.

There are VERY FEW memes that deserve anything near $40, if I had the time to do a reverse image search on all of them to pull numbers I would, but I've seen enough to know it's a problem.

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16 votes

inertia (73) · 6 years ago

Well, I think that's fair. I'm sure they could stand to tighten up their requirements more than they already have.

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berniesanders (77) · 6 years ago

Or, not give out ridiculous rewards to unverified content. Especially when an original meme takes about 1 minute to create.

john02ejiofor (33) · 6 years ago

I buy the angle you are coming from especially with them possibly taking a big chunk of the earnings. It's pure daylight robbery and worst, no credit at least is given to the creator. I'll also add incompetence to laziness and dishonesty.

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whatsup (75) · 6 years ago

How is it any better or worse than what is happening on Trending?

We can all watch the same 12 people (accounts change sometimes) get all of the rewards. Or we can watch some people who are "Undeserving" in some way get the rewards. I don't like it and I can get triggered by it, but I guess if those are my options I would lean towards distribution.

I poke you sometimes and disagree with you, but I never doubt that you are investing time and thought into Steem. Thanks for that... Even when you disagree with me! lol.

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berniesanders (77) · 6 years ago

It's not any better or worse, it's just another form of abuse that needs some attention. You know I've touched on the Trending page in the past and will likely go there again.

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whatsup (75) · 6 years ago

Okay, that is fair.

Here are a few positives for them.
They are upvoting a variety of people.
They are trying to address self-upvoting
They are doing a better job of spreading the Steem around.

I agree some shitty stuff makes it through their process.

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raheelkhan1 (50) · 6 years ago

I agreed .

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dceroo (50) · 6 years ago

seconded!

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berniesanders (77) · 6 years ago

Sounds like it's quite easy to exploit. May have to give it a little test...

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whatsup (75) · 6 years ago

If you do it, I hope you publish the results.

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noorijaz (46) · 6 years ago

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transisto (74) · 6 years ago

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kryptik (63) · 6 years ago

I lol’d pretty hard at this.

I think this is meme worthy.

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sircork (64) · 6 years ago

yer my fav. you crack me up.

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bitius (55) · 6 years ago

thirded!!

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crystalhuman (64) · 6 years ago (edited)

Here are all the original memes I've made that haven't caught much traction. Thanks for inspiring me to make another one. I just shared the one I just made to my wall. Here are the rest.

crystalhuman (64) · 6 years ago

I actually hadn't shared that top one yet. Hopefully it gets some upvotes here :)

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limabeing (56) · 6 years ago

Thats weird because ive seen it before...

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crystalhuman (64) · 6 years ago

Unless someone else had the same idea, I kinda doubt it. I've not shared it yet and my wife watched me make it so I have a witness lol

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crystalhuman (64) · 6 years ago

All of my memes are original, any likenesses are because I'm a stoner and probably forgot I saw it before...

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adonisabril (74) · 6 years ago

Yeah, how come NOBODY ever makes a fuss over this issue? It's very blatant and in your face it's disgusting. The circle-jerkers know it and we know it, yet we put our heads in the sand. There should be a variety of content on TRENDING, not the same Self-Voters and Circle-Jerkers.

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ilyastarar (64) · 6 years ago

Sheer waste of delegated SP which can go to a better project like Utopian. Dtube is going to have trouble too because people are copy-pasting videos.

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kryzsec (59) · 6 years ago

But some grops/communities/curation efforts specifically unvote/unreward and flag posts that we find to be plagiarism.

Manual curation efforts (like steemstem which is unsupported by @ned and steemit.inc) work to prevent plagiarized work on steemit (and we report a lot of posts to steemcleaners along with throwing flags of our own) and yet dmania, something supported to hell and high water, doesn't seem to do anything about its plagiarism problem. If people want steemit to succeed then it will take more than just whales expecting minnows to flag plagiarized posts that were voted by whale accounts... And the tools should take the due-diligence and unvote content when it is made aware of plagiarism.

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tngflx (61) · 6 years ago (edited)

Ned is pushing too much for wide usage of steem token. But the fundamentals weren't well managed. We are still stuck with the ancient UI to write a fucking post. How hard is it to introduce a great tool to write a freaking post? Is this even a place to blog? who the fuck still type html syntax just to make your image pull right or left. This is absurd. And you're trying to push for a bigger market. @ned please stick to the core of steemit! A freaking blogging site! Get your fundamentals right and people will come naturally. Do support all those curators who help you to maintain this platform!

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whatsup (75) · 6 years ago

I agree manual curation would be the best.
I am still happy steem is using their stake to promote distribution.
Curation also allows for downvoting.

I don't think the success or failure of steem has much to do with Plagiarism at all. It is just an opinion though.

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veerall (50) · 6 years ago

Whales prefer rich, ass kissers and whores, Just like the elites and banksters of the "Central Banking System"

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whatsup (75) · 6 years ago

That seems kind of harsh.

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pele23 (68) · 6 years ago

Lol, but I do get what he is saying. It's really hard to get some whale attention, let alone upvotes! And most of the time the ass kissers and "whores" get the upvotes... Really!

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veerall (50) · 6 years ago

true, i just got flagged for speaking the truth.. now you know what happens? its just like the real world here..

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whatsup (75) · 6 years ago

What world did you expect to be in?

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veerall (50) · 6 years ago

Blockchain especially steemit was created for like minded people who are against the govts. i guess one can never change the human nature of the majority..

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whatsup (75) · 6 years ago

I thought all those like-minded people and those who are the "majority" all lived in the same real world.

I'm just messing with you.

charitybot (63) · 6 years ago

Delegations create subsidies, subsidies are not always a good thing. Delegations appear to continue to be allocated in a very hands-off manner, and steemit inc does not seem to have changed their stance on never writing up a written contract for anyone receiving a delegation.

Correct me if I'm wrong, and maybe there are actually hard requirements for any of the delegated parties to submit anything remotely resembling transparency reports of what they're doing with the delegations and how they go about doing things, other than voluntarily releases of information on their administrative activities.

That's problematic because so many of the issues revolving around the delegations in the past and present could have been prevented in the first place if they were to have gone the contract route. I'm guessing it's a carry-over mentality of avoiding contracts and anything that smells ICO or securities/IPO-related so they don't get hit by any regulations, considering they're based in the US.

whatsup (75) · 6 years ago

Are you suddenly expecting Ned to be the controller of what is successful on the entire blockchain?

I don't want Ned to decide what is worthy. And... I find him to be very bland. I want him to delegate to lots of people/projects for diversity reasons. I want them all to try different things.

It is an experiment.

sames (65) · 6 years ago (edited)

I agree :) We don't need to be the bitcoin community worshipping the grounds of the white paper and Nakamoto, respect them but please do not use then as evidence they are made by humans.

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ackza (72) · 6 years ago

@dan is Nakamoto of steem, @ned is the Roger Ver of steem :D whatsup @whatsup

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sames (65) · 6 years ago

So whos adam black ;)

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spirits4you (57) · 6 years ago

hey @whatsup... noramlly I would agree with you however dmania doesn´t really give one any chance of stating where one has gotten the picture/ content from, hence it isn´t always the user trouble shooting.

If one would like to state where having gotten it from the only possiblity right now is to edit the post after creation in steemit... I dont think that it should actuall work this way.

whatsup (75) · 6 years ago

While you make a good point, it is okay for a platform on Steem to make it's own rules, and you don't have to agree with them. The rules are clear and published on a site that works as defined.

They continute to tweek the bot as needed. Cut them some slack while they work on it,

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spotlight (60) · 6 years ago

Exactly. I fully welcome people to flag anything they deem unworthy of payment.

ackza (72) · 6 years ago

Arent you da chosen one on dmania bro?!

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one.min.crafts (40) · 6 years ago

I agree with you @whatsup
i love dmania too.

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opeyemioguns (68) · 6 years ago

Not everyone have enough power to flag. And they may retaliate

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pirateofthedtube (52) · 6 years ago

I was going to say - this seems like a Steem issue more than anything. Is there even really a system to stop somebody from just copying and pasting articles from one user to their own account? What about on DTube? Is there even a system to stop somebody from just reuploading somebody's YouTube videos? I feel like this is something that is difficult to address with Steemit in its current form. Although flagging and giving people negative reputation help a little bit, I don't think that will stop it all.

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leprechaun (56) · 6 years ago

Absolutely nothing. Could we create a repository of Tube-video hashes in order to have a resource for detection of the event?

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pirateofthedtube (52) · 6 years ago

Big issue with that is that some YouTubers have come to this site and are reuploading their own videos. You could have people who do so identify themselves, but that kinda hurts the anonymity aspect.

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leprechaun (56) · 6 years ago (edited)

Even if you're creating content anonymously, you can link accounts by validating from one to the other. Suppose some big Youtuber puts up a video here and then from YouTube says that this Steemit account really does belong to him, then we know. It would be good to have some kind of standard machine readable format. That way Bernie's bot army doesn't flag an author who posts in both Steemit and somewhere else

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ramizmurtaza (52) · 6 years ago

Exactly, i agree with you.

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thoughts-in-time (64) · 6 years ago

^{Image: via Pixabay}

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mjglqw (40) · 6 years ago

and not only on Steemit in general. Pretty much on every social network site or community.

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mohammadosama (25) · 6 years ago

What is steemit can you tell me?

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katteasis (63) · 6 years ago

Dmania itself is a Joke when it comes to voting distribution.I can understand they can't view and vote every post manually, but they should have applied voling algorithm like busy? that way every meme(whether copied or not) has chances to get at least some votes/rewards, fair enough?

In my opinion, the bot should vote every post in an equal/ or rational manner, for something like meme it's completely fair distribution.And this can encourage more users too. But right now as I said Dmania itself is a joke, there are many better projects to fund with that huge amount of SP when it hasn't used in right way.

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whatsup (75) · 6 years ago

Typing in bold for a whole paragraph is a joke. Saying something is a joke doesn't make it so.

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katteasis (63) · 6 years ago

I hope you got your satisfaction. Cheers!

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buzzard (56) · 6 years ago

dmania is the least of steem's problems.. Crap like this hurts steemit worse. A new person finds steemit gets stoked post their introduction to only have it spammed by a bot with out even an upvote.. and then the spam comment gets a better payout than the new person post.. Yeah that's the first impression I would have wanted..

berniesanders (77) · 6 years ago

Thank you, killing these now.

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11 votes

buzzard (56) · 6 years ago

they are using a couple accounts.. https://steemit.com/steemit/@buzzard/wecome-to-steemit-com-here-let-me-show-you-how-to-rape-the-rewards

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pomocnik (36) · 6 years ago

I have something nice for you (25+ accounts farm, circa 18k SP)
Full list:
https://pastebin.com/vAxzzFTM
Screens:

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anarchyhasnogods (68) · 6 years ago

at this point do you have any hope of getting ned to actually help the platform?

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10 votes

berniesanders (77) · 6 years ago

After 2.5 years and absolutely nothing to show for it other than a more jacked up site than when it was released? Nope.

He hasn't even posted here in over 2 weeks... What kind of CEO doesn't use the product he's allegedly trying to improve? (Hint: One who got what he wants ($$) and doesn't give a shit.)

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12 votes

anarchyhasnogods (68) · 6 years ago

in that case I think convincing him to step down as the leader may be the best option, although I have no idea how we can get that to happen.

(Maybe allow him to keep his stake, so he ends up making more money without effort?)

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enforcer48 (68) · 6 years ago

Sounds like @ned's totally got the "shitcoin dev" mentality: just here for the cash grab; then, peace out.

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dromzz (57) · 6 years ago

It's sometimes worse than 9gag itself but sometimes it's good. I think it would be great if there weren't so many stolen memes though...

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monajam (70) · 6 years ago

From Steemit blockchain, everyone tries to pull rewards as much as possible, and dMania is no exception. I would not blame it; it's human nature to earn easy money. It happens everywhere and anyone WILL do it if get a chance.

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nokodemion (59) · 6 years ago

My thought was that goldman sachs wants to buy Venezuela real cheap. /sarc

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jenara (52) · 6 years ago

Do someone differ reposts from plagiarizm here?

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cnstlf60 (63) · 6 years ago

Okay.
I'll try.

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mikepm74 (66) · 6 years ago

All this and to say nothing of the fact that hundreds of users post content to that service and never get an upvote from the "bot" while a circle of regulars are constantly making those $40 rewards on stupid memes, and the dev makes sure to upvote everything he puts out with 100% vote too.

These "services" are all just skimming as much of the pie as they can while voting for their buddies to get more rewards. It is steeminc condoned circle jerking.

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7 votes

fitzgibbon (61) · 6 years ago

Things are unfair in Dmania. Things are unfair in Steem. Things are unfair in the world. Things are unfair in your life.

Deal with it.

anarchyhasnogods (68) · 6 years ago

the best way to deal with it is to destroy the system that forces it on us.

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fitzgibbon (61) · 6 years ago (edited)

You are a true anarchist.

I like that. Let order arise from chaos. Demolish every structure and let's all be truly free, right?

anarchistwisdom (51) · 6 years ago

we must only destroy the unjustified hierarchy that arises from the state. That will destroy all of the capitalism around us and leave us with less chaos and far more freedom than before.

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fitzgibbon (61) · 6 years ago

Hmm, weird to find such voices on a platform built by a dude that thinks that free market solutions are an end-goal.

Do you really think that destroying capitalism leads to less chaos??

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https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-anarchy-works

anarchyhasnogods (68) · 6 years ago

It turns out, when you live in a system where literally everything around you is a market you have to use the fucking market. Anyways, it turns out stealing resources from others is easier than producing them yourself, so one of the few ways to actually get a foothold against this system is to join it. That is the nature of capital.

Everytime the state falls, the result is less chaos. It turns out people plan things better without the complete chaos of markets

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cryptosharon (69) · 6 years ago (edited)

There's nothing wrong with circlejerking if you admit it, but don't go defending seriousness afterward or you won't look good :3

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ocupation (68) · 6 years ago

I created original content for Dmania and reached decent engagement but never managed to get any support

At the same time stolen memes were in trending, so I got demotivated

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14 votes

fitzgibbon (61) · 6 years ago

I can understand that, I did get a dmania vote a couple of times, but it's hard to get a grip on why and how. This is very often the case, also in normal posts, sometimes the rewards on a post are extremely high when I don't expect it. And sometimes, when I feel like, yeah, this post is really something awesome, it gets next to nothing.

Such is the way of Steem, I think.

Note: what really helps on dmania, is following the FAQ rules. If you do not meet the exact criteria / requirements for a dmania upvote you will never get one. That's something I personally learned the hard way.

Good luck!

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dera123 (62) · 6 years ago

That is normal and happens on every social media platform, if you think you did an awesome job the ppl are like "meh it's ok" if you just did it for fun and didn't invest that much effort it will rise like a star xD

fitzgibbon (61) · 6 years ago

That. Exactly that.

whatsup (75) · 6 years ago

Some people quit rather than try harder. It's a choice.

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cryptosharon (69) · 6 years ago

I never quit! Unless I find something better! :3

I spent a long time getting but cents for my posts until I found a way to make it slightly more profitable. My mindset was more "if you ain't got it yet, you haven't worked enough to take it", and it still is to a lesser extent, since now I'm researching and changing strategies a lot.

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oups (63) · 6 years ago

can be cheated with upvote bots I guess.

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yesaye (53) · 6 years ago

Agreed, then I moved over to DecentMemes.

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truce (73) · 6 years ago

"truce"

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yesaye (53) · 6 years ago

Truce indeed, truce.

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misterakpan (61) · 6 years ago (edited)

DSound. DTube. DMania. DShit. DThat. They are all the same. Someone I know released a very brilliant single that was exclusive to Steem through DSound, and cross posted the studio session video on DTube. This release was to stay away from other mainstream CDS's for at least a week so it can hold true to being exclusive to Steem. Neither of these services voted for this promising artiste who expressed so much faith in the platforms and had a brilliant material. Mind you material was fantastic. Then the DSound post received a Curie vote and trended the DSound tag for a good 3 days or so I was checking. They still didn't see it. Seven days afterwards, posts pays out and the frigging services take their fee.

I felt that the artist was robbed by some corrupt folks facilitated by Steemit. It's messy, mehn. Everyday my hope for this platform dwindles. If we have another highs in the near future, I may have to sell off reasonably.

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girlwithnojob (51) · 6 years ago

I like @dmania .
It's true that people steal posts , but we just have to upvote the most beautiful posts and everything is ok. Do not stress @berniesanders Dmania is funny its ok.gif

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zedikaredirect (62) · 6 years ago

Yeah it's like these people are talking about a filter. Moderate/censor ? You are your filter. This is the internet, and in art, "everything is a remix".

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one.min.crafts (40) · 6 years ago

Yeah you are right @zedikaredirect

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jademont (68) · 6 years ago

Steemit needs people like you, it's more and more a platform for bots and low quality contents.

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pagandance (55) · 6 years ago (edited)

And didn't you yourself steal somebody else's name? Or are you the @realBernieSanders ? btw thnx for pointing to this dmania thing, maybe I'll try to figure out what it's all about.

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brianphobos (70) · 6 years ago

I agree dMania is bad for STEEM. At the very least they need to "hire" human curators to focus on upvoting original work. If there was a focus on creating original work it could draw more attention to the STEEM blockchain. All it is doing now is draining the reward pool to crack babies posting other people's stuff.

Initially I thought dMania was an interesting experiment but about a month ago I undelegated power to them and took my elite meme game elsewhere. Here are a couple ORIGINAL memes I created that weren't worth anything there.

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16 votes

krischik (61) · 6 years ago

Thinking of it: Maybe I stop using dmania as well.

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statsmonkey (49) · 6 years ago

Congratulations, your post received one of the top 10 most powerful upvotes in the last 12 hours. You received an upvote from @postpromoter valued at 93.98 SBD, based on the pending payout at the time the data was extracted.

If you do not wish to receive these messages in future, reply with the word "stop".

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celinavisaez (62) · 6 years ago

Hola!
@berniesanders. Soy nueva y la verdad busco informacion en google para mis post, no es nada original, pero poco a poco uno va aprendiendo, de todas maneras de una forma u otra todos nos ayudamos en nuestros post, de libros, noticias, politica, economia etc. trasmitimos la informacion con nuestras propias palabras y nos ayudamos con figuras y fotos de google para ilustrar los post, al poner la fuente de informacion no se considera un plagio, respeto tu opinion. saludo cordial, mucho exito en tu proximo post

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cryptosharon (69) · 6 years ago

Él se refiere a los posts sin atribución a la fuente original. En los casos que él menciona sí es plagio.

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celinavisaez (62) · 6 years ago

Hola!
@cryptos, gracias por la informacion, estare pendiente para no caer en ese tipo de abuso, saludo cordial, cariños y besos dede la distancia.

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saywha (63) · 6 years ago

I use decentmemes since it has manual curation. Dmania is trash. A solid meme is probably the lowest form of acceptable voteable content, and I have yet to see a single good meme from dmania.

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13 votes

anarchyhasnogods (68) · 6 years ago

i have yet to see a good meme on this platform

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thabiggdogg (56) · 6 years ago

I liked using DecentMemes.com too. But the past week it hasn't been working.

cryptosharon (69) · 6 years ago

I find that long text posts are more satisfying, but I don't condemn those who use decentmemes and dmania. It's just another way to do things.

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saywha (63) · 6 years ago

I agree. I use decentmemes. Im just saying... A good meme is the lowest acceptable form of post. It is still acceptable... It just better be good lol

elizahfhaye (68) · 6 years ago (edited)

Dmaina is created for a noble purpose but some of our fellow steemians found a way to abuse it by plagiarizing or stealing others work. Most of the apps or software have its own loopholes in it that were exploited by those culprits. These abused should be hindred and stop and one way to somehow discourage them to do it is to flag them.

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fitzgibbon (61) · 6 years ago

I will give you one point @berniesanders: it's debatable whether or not @dmania is good or bad for Steem. However, in the same light it's debatable whether @berniesanders is good or bad for Steem.

Maybe instead of picking fights with accounts that try (within their own potentially misguided vision) to promote Steem and help support it.

Would you maybe try a different approach: find the posts you do like, new and interesting people contributing quality content and UPVOTE them?

Right now, your posts tend to focus the attention on YOU.

Which I don't really mind, btw. I like you. But I don't think a fight with @dmania is helpful in any way. I like @dmania too.

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sames (65) · 6 years ago

but then he would be accused of rewardpoolrape ;)

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fitzgibbon (61) · 6 years ago

for upvoting quality content?

I think not.

sames (65) · 6 years ago

Humanity alwayd finds a way to blame others, I sure he could be blamed for anything he does. But it would be cool if he upvotes steem projects

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h3ck02g (39) · 6 years ago

Reposts are found everywhere. I know an owner of a 100k+ Meme Page that doesnt even made 1 meme by himself. Everything found on other Pages, Reddit, 9GAG, Imgur... He is earning good money by doing some advertising and I personally think he didn't deserve anything.

Let me know what you think..

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viraldrome (67) · 6 years ago

I would like dmania better if it was voted on by group consensus rather than an automated bot. Some moronic shit that doesn't make sense and isn't funny gets the bot vote. I stopped posting there because you lose 25 percent to Dmania and the delegators. If you don't get the bot vote enough you will lose money since you pretty much have to buy votes to make it to trending and get the bot vote. Also 40 bucks is shit was almost double that not long ago. Why doesn't cheetah catch stolen memes anyway? I made all my own but half the people there just steal them which is anti Steemit. I figured there would be a backlash against dmania months ago.....

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ssjsasha (67) · 6 years ago

They upvoted themselves up with bots so its not like they are absorbing organic voting power

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samueldouglas (54) · 6 years ago

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limabeing (56) · 6 years ago

👏🏻👏🏻😂😂😂....😆😜....🙃☺️...😛😏😒...😔😞😟☹️😣😩😩😭😭😭😭😭🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

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kryzsec (59) · 6 years ago

Bernie this message has nothing to do with you, I am pointing the finger at others here.

DMania could make a simple form (like what is located with steemcleaners) where you fill it out with a link to the post and link to the original image and have some manual curators check it, if the post is infact plagiarized then they remove the vote and grey list the account, if it happens again then blacklist (sure the plag could just make new accounts) but they do not seem to have a process to do such a thing.... And yet Ned supports this, a lot of whales do. Lets think about this, there are manual curation groups and groups that are trying to form communities and maintain people (keep them coming back to steem) and keep motivating them to post here that are unsupported by steemit, ned, steem.inc, etc... What does it say when steem.inc gives more support to services that actively destroy steem as a whole than it does to services that help it out.... Better yet, whales.... You have an investment in steem and you know the risks to having 1 person gain too much either through self voting, voting services, or otherwise.... So why the FUCK are most of you just sitting around with a thumb up your ass letting abuse be rampant in this system... Stop expecting 1000's of minnows to go out and flag some shitty ass plagiarized posts that are trending to oblivion because of vote selling services while you sit there voting yourself and using those services. Protect your fucking investment and fight the abuse, otherwise you will drive everyone away from this, currently, shitty system and the coin will be worth nothing...

Think about this, if nobody uses steem then all of the major exchanges are going to unlist it and the value will drop and your 100,000+ steem and 1500+ SBD will be worth less than toilet paper I wipe my ass with. So stop driving people away, fix this broken system that allows for very very shitty content to trend day in and day out, and use your stake for something useful. I know some whales do promote a healthy steem but many of you just make the system worse and you drive people away...

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sublimate (48) · 6 years ago

🐋

i will wait 1 more hour till my vp gets to 100% and see if i can give you $0.01 :D

to me this comment is like: "open letter to all whales"

maybe stuff like the bilderbergs meetings, or g20? happens because power controlled could be used more effective to achieve particular purposes / goals?

i am new to steem/it, but so far i have not read of whale meetings, or open discussions.

is like i agree you can do whatever you want, as long as you don't step into others to succeed. And here is like we trowing trash around the without care who is going to pick it up, i am not asking for governance, just common sense.

why not try to open a whale channel on discord, or similar, maybe also open to the minnows. for the purpose of sharing and creating a better place for all of us, not to go in secrecy and impose shady goals

🔊

You know instead of doing it in secretly, doing it openly, with open participants...

To create debate maybe know each other, reach to agreements, concensus if they are needed to help / create / support / delegate to new iniciatives or old that are beneficial for the whole of us

🐟My vp is ready

oh.. it's 6 am... 🐟

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ran-a-banana (59) · 6 years ago

If any comments are added to a MEME that are original, it falls under fair use. This platform is about curation of good content. Good content is usually popular because it is good. You can not say that it does not add value, because funny is valuable. You can not say that it shouldn't be on the platform, because it is curation. The best MEME should be collected and displayed on this platform, it adds value. The people who made the MEME in the first place, they have made their money, they have made their fame already. Sharing their content, is free publicity. Everything is already paid for. That is my opinion.

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themarkymark (78) · 6 years ago

By your description, I can take any Hollywood movie and put it on DTube and get some nice votes on it right?

garudi (61) · 6 years ago (edited)

🗅

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themarkymark (78) · 6 years ago

garudi (61) · 6 years ago (edited)

▀

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garudi (61) · 6 years ago (edited)

▀

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ran-a-banana (59) · 6 years ago

Once again comparing apples and oranges.
Your lack of vision is disturbing. The future is here. The future is now.

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a-dalora (50) · 6 years ago

"Fair use" is only applicable in Common Law not in Civil Law. So you have to restrict the existence of the blockchain to the US.

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ran-a-banana (59) · 6 years ago

Your lack of vision is disturbing.

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a-dalora (50) · 6 years ago

Your thoughts are limited to a very narrow world. Maybe a lack of vision is your problem, not other ones'.

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justinashby (61) · 6 years ago

Maybe, just maybe, post the same original meme content on steemit instead.
I agree $10/dankmeme, sure.
$40/stolen work, absolute bullshit.
Is it possible for people to try and self-flag as a way to discern fair distribution of rewards?
Self-regulation might have an affect.

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moeknows (60) · 6 years ago

I have been wondering about such a feature for a while.

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monkeebrain (28) · 6 years ago

It's very valiant of you to want to do something about this. On the other hand you yourself are profiting form it.

It's just the Internet. It's always been like this and it will never change.

thabiggdogg (56) · 6 years ago

I made this myself. Never even made $0.50 on it.

peppermintnick (41) · 6 years ago

The idea of a meme is to be shared. Never have i seen someone claim ownership of a meme. The same goes for every single meme that contained people in. Bad luck brian didnt create hes own meme therefore every single post was copyright infringement. The same goes for every other meme that wasnt made from scratch on paint of photoshop. Dont kill memes pls

yassine04 (54) · 6 years ago

never used it before ,, there is nothing funny during this market crash

thabiggdogg (56) · 6 years ago

GIFs Are FUNNY!!!

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vishalsingh4997 (57) · 6 years ago

we(Steemit) do not have a powerful plagiarism checker, even if any exist then that is not sufficient. If I have to say it is straightforward way than @dmania and steemit investors both are responsible for this situation. @dmania is now become the most plagiarized channel!!

imlikett (56) · 6 years ago (edited)

Half the crap on this platform is plagiarism. Even some of the people who are on the trending daily: adsactly etc... they all use some form of plagiarism or another. Just because you wrote "pictures from blah blah," doesn't mean you are able to use those pictures. Especially when you are gaining a profit from them.
I have always thought this is going to be the ultimate downfall of Steem; it will be attacked just like torrent sites, and shut down.

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trumanity (60) · 6 years ago (edited)

Adsactly! I couldn't disagree with you on that. I painstakingly check to see if the images are on Non Commercial license. I'm ashamed to admit though, that I have never bothered checking licenses for the few gifs I have thrown in to recent posts. I find those quite tacky anyway so i am now questioning whether to use them in future. They tend to give my otherwise nice posts, a sort of adsactly feel to them ;-) Oh the pressure of the herd! Ought we all to congregate around the lowest denominator already?

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cryptosharon (69) · 6 years ago

Steem can't be shut down like torrent sites loooool. You can't just go and hack all the witnesses or attack a blockchain. That's the point of it being a blockchain. It will become a behemoth regardless of the legality of the content within. The only thing that will change is how acceptable it becomes overall for corporations and society.

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samueldouglas (54) · 6 years ago

Could witnesses be sued personally for their role in breaching copyright though?

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cryptosharon (69) · 6 years ago

No, they can't censor Steem, so they can't be to blame for the freedom of speech that allows for copyright infringement.

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samueldouglas (54) · 6 years ago

I'd be happy to continue this discussion further, for the sake of playing devil's advocate, but probably best to not do it in public. Let's just hope you are right.

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imlikett (56) · 6 years ago

That is flat wrong.

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a-dalora (50) · 6 years ago

You can sue anyone that is offering access to the copyrighted content.

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imlikett (56) · 6 years ago

You don't have to attack the block chain, you attack it just like you attack torrent sites. You block the HTML interface (domain) from being able to appear on the internet. Literally just force host to not host steemit.com or any other iteration of such.

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candy49 (63) · 6 years ago

Maybe the way to stop this is a hardfork to end delegation of steempower. If people with lots of steempower want to get curation awards, they can easily curate themselves.

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spyking (55) · 6 years ago

Yeap ....I aggree

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arslan786 (61) · 6 years ago

I am tired on being posting on dmania and only the people close to the supporters are getting the dmania bot vote.

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andrewway87 (38) · 6 years ago

I post memes I create and never get much and see memes I have seen hundreds of times get tons of upvotes and high pay. My memes not great but they are mine.

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beograd (50) · 6 years ago (edited)

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mehedi1 (43) · 6 years ago

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gvincentjosephm (59) · 6 years ago

I thought Dmania is a good project. It's not too bad to get some laughs everyday with memes but the sad part is many of the posts are just copy-paste from the internet without proper credits. I hope they could do something to stop this abuse and rebuilt the reputation again.

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apvlog (47) · 6 years ago

keep it on! i like when people fights

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yorbin17 (56) · 6 years ago

I do not think the platform is a problem, even though it is becoming a problem.
Only the platform has a bad reputation, just like you. (No offense)

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mikeycinmountp (37) · 6 years ago

I just saw that neg 17 how can it be possible for this guy to have a $500 post?

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yorbin17 (56) · 6 years ago

BOTs and more bots

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ferow (52) · 6 years ago

Hi @berniesanders, i don't want to be "that guy" here but it might but i've seen that you misspelled @dmania in your post. You might wanna edit that, not that it mathers too much but i thought u might want to know about it. Keep up the good work buddy.

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apostle-david (39) · 6 years ago

what !!!! angry face.jpg

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brotherb (25) · 6 years ago

Why not slam GOOGLE for providing the content in the first place?

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unspecifiedindi (42) · 6 years ago

Decentralisation in general tends to promote plagerism or copyright infringement. That is if you believe the current model for copyright is effective in any way shape or form. The dplatforms in general DO NOT offer any form of copyright protection save for the agreement you sign but if you look on dtube for example you can find neumerous examples of fairly obvious "copyright infringement," Bare in mind that we are working with in a TRUSTLESS SYSTEM. This means that there is no real way to prevent copyright infringement, Ultimately the concept of copyright in this space does have to be addressed differently as if you put material up then there is potential for that work to be downloaded then reworked with no form of consent given, Dsound/dtube use a system called IPFS, This system allows you to download any works to your local drive with out any need for direct access. THIS MEANS THAT YOUR WORK CAN BE TAKEN BY ANYONE! If your concern is your artistic work is being stolen or used for something unintended then the answer is simple, Don't put that work on these platforms, Personally if someone wants to use my work for something I'm usually more than happy and increably flattered by the nod as long as I am given credit, If you want to use decentralised systems then your complaint about plagerism or copyright infringment should ultimately be reexamined. There are plenty of systems out there for copyright protection and the one thing they all have in common is they give central control to one person or entity, This presents an issue as in most forms of copyright law there is an exception for what's called "fair use." However most entities will not look at this as a presentable argument as they are for more concerned with the risk to their brand than any kind of work that might have been put in. In all honesty calling memes an artform is, in my opinion, a bit of an silly premise to begin with because most memes use many images that are already popular to begin with so if you chose to worry about copyrights in this space it seems to be somewhat redundant,

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https://dmania.lol/post/isfet.mage/stolenmemepng-zg1hbmlh-2uz71

isfet.mage (36) · 6 years ago

I started a new hachtag on dMania.

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luckm4nn (36) · 6 years ago

Please UpVote All post me, @luckm4nn
I UpVote back your post. Thank's

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izge (51) · 6 years ago

The comment section is much interesting than other posts on Steemit.

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luckm4nn (36) · 6 years ago

Please UpVote All post me, @luckm4nn
I UpVote back your post. Thank's

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saliv8 (40) · 6 years ago (edited)

WHY NOT MAKE A BOT THAT FILTERS OUT PLAGIARISM! IT'S HOW YOU SOLVE EVERY OTHER PROBLEM ON STEEMIT.

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leprechaun (56) · 6 years ago

See @cheetah

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olastonebridge (25) · 6 years ago

You are saying the basic fact,some people are not just creative.They find it difficult to compose and bring new ideas.

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danthundercloud (51) · 6 years ago

memes are a form of comedy. comedy is a form of art. granted most memes would fall into the lowbrow catagory of art, but still its art.
as for plagiarism goes, yeah it happens and it sucks balls to see some meme that has been bouncing around the internet since clinton was in office reposted and make more money than an original piece, but i still post. 90% of mine are from my own twisted mind. you can argue that im using someone ealses photograph and that is wrong and im being a bad boy and should burn in hell and all that jazz, but before you say anything google Andy Warhol, Peter Max, Dan Cretu, Charles Fazzino or even just google search pop art. they take an image or idea and use it to convey a thought, message or emotion. the same as any memer does with a picture and a few words.

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mikeycinmountp (37) · 6 years ago

Well put, and getting your jokes either riffed on or straight ripped off kinda means you've arrived in the comedy world.
Not saying that's right it's just the rules of the comedy jungle.

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sujonislam93 (0) · 6 years ago

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bigram13 (81) · 6 years ago

There is a Dmania? I assume from the post it is a meme site?

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btc-dialog (54) · 6 years ago

I would suggest to channel your energy in other ways than to attack.

I think it is good to ensure that plagiarism is kept away from steem, however I don't feel like attacking a project that is bringing users and value to steem in the way you have is the most effective approach.

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mahamlicious (37) · 6 years ago

Great its very helpful ♥️

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ehsan847 (7) · 6 years ago

Very nice Post About @dmania
Thanks for sharing this Post.
I appreciate your work......
You promotes original content on Steemit

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thabiggdogg (56) · 6 years ago

Gotta love shit comments like this. You must be a @Haejin follower!!!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright

bangash113 (50) · 6 years ago

Copyright is a legal right created by the law of a country that grants the creator of an original work exclusive rights for its use and distribution. This is usually only for a limited time. The exclusive rights are not absolute but limited by limitations and exceptions to copyright law, including fair use. A major limitation on copyright is that copyright protects only the original expression of ideas, and not the underlying ideas themselves.to be continued for more info.......please visit this site

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heimindanger (68) · 6 years ago (edited)

There is a typo in your article, its @dmania, not @dmaina.

I don't think people reusing meme pictures to be bad, however after clicking your links I noticed dmania adds a fucking SHITLOAD of ads at the bottom of the posts programmatically. This is insane. This is what the post should be about. Also it's promoting potential scams and bid bots (smart steem)... Scary

NVM, its actually the user doing it.

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klender (25) · 6 years ago

Pues, la verdad si pero no deberías de echarle la culpa a las herramientas ten en cuenta eso.

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arac (62) · 6 years ago

It is unfortunate that the efforts are not rewarded, as it should be.

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mup (55) · 6 years ago (edited)

I think when it comes to memes you can't really ask for unique / good quality content. Just look at 9GAG (aka dmania inspiration), they're reposting the same content over and over and over again. This is how a memes community "works". Repost the good ones until some1 makes something new so we can repost it again.

And why would dmania care? They take a 15% cut from all of that. :) dtube takes 25% and does nothing about stolen content.

Anyway, everyone is stealing content, unless we add an IQ test during the registration process this won't stop. :kappa: :)

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sumsum (64) · 6 years ago

This is just the reason I do not get dmania! Thank you for pointing it out so clearly!

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We love steemit to have fun,
but there are rules and we all need them
or it will be the death of everyone!

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verhp11 (67) · 6 years ago

It seem to be a trend to go trending or to contribute with false intensions. That worries me in fact a lot on steemit. I'm currious how that is gonna develop futher. But I hope it will get the right attention and it will be stopped in one or another way. This at least opens eyes... Thanks..

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pirateofthedtube (52) · 6 years ago

I think you have a point, but isn't this really just a problem with Steemit as a whole? I mean, what is to stop me from just copying and pasting stuff from other people and putting it up on my blog if I want?

Personally I think that there does need to be a system in place to prevent this, although I suppose the reputation system kind of does that.

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hazelalex (67) · 6 years ago

okay I have not use dmania

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tlsvchuoi (47) · 6 years ago

Interactive.

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xiaodehe (25) · 6 years ago

Well, sometimes it really happen. Let's work together to better it. Thanks.

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abjectpermanence (43) · 6 years ago (edited)

Uncredited reposts are a part of meme culture since its inception. Memes have power through repetition of imagery and symbols, making repetition even more necessary for the proliferation of memes. Furthermore, basically all memes are built on stolen intellectual property. On this very page there are multiple memes featuring Grumpy Cat, a popular meme that's actually copyrighted. Is that "plagiarism"? Is that "theft"? Is putting original text over copyrighted images not "theft"?

This post basically boils down to merely saying "reposts are bad". Yeah, sure, I guess that's fair to say, but what do you expect? Internet meme culture revolves almost entirely around reposts and stolen intellectual property. Reposts are baked in to Internet culture, and as long as people are sharing memes, reposts will be on the menu. I think the way to handle undesirable reposts is to not upvote them and flag them if necessary. Complaining won't help.

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erikaflynn (61) · 6 years ago (edited)

All is learned in comparison:

You spend several hours to write the original post - you have $1-2 from Steemit users and Minnowsupport team
You spend a few days on the translation / improvement the project - you have $10-20 from Utopian
You spend a couple of minutes to copy a picture from another site - you have $ 40 from Dmania

And do you know what is most interesting? Steemcleaners do not give flags to meme-posters. Never.

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shahidshah (53) · 6 years ago

The same things two times happened to me and also people are making memes on Muslim religious scholars which isn't good act!!

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sanmi (64) · 6 years ago

There is no solution worldwide to stop plagiarism, anyone can steal anyone's content from online. And unless dmania integrates with an automatic tool to find such abuse, it will be impossible for them to find out and take action manually. As others said, the community should report them or flag them.

By the way, I think, if there is a bigger community to find out the good things, and reward them , then that will help this place more. So if a whale like you would start some initiative to find out what is good, and reward them, then that will set a new trend.

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ghost2 (30) · 6 years ago

How sure are you ?
Who are the victims and how does Dmania help in plagiarism?
We need solid proof

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berniesanders (77) · 6 years ago

We are ALL the victims as they are taking rewards from the reward pool and giving it to plagiarists and thieves.

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deholt (55) · 6 years ago

The problem in my opinion comes from people thinking that they can (re)post the top 9GAG memes or some old ones from months or years ago.
It should be instead people posting original content that is "Steemit Only". Or well, "Dmania" only.

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maricic (25) · 6 years ago

Good

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akhawaja (25) · 6 years ago

I think this should stop now. We all should join hands on this issue to kick out the content
thieves. Even I saw a person charging $100 to guide his students on how to copy the
content of others. I raised my voice.
In my opinion, this is unethical and should be stopped. A person write a content by putting
in his years of research and knowledge and one person simply copy paste his/her material
in the tool and upload the paraphrased content. Although these kind of tactics not last
longer but still they are violating the rights of ther content writers.

I'm with you on this cause.
#stopplagiarism

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vanessav (57) · 6 years ago

Why is it that the vote of real value comes fromDmania? What is behind that? I noticed the same thing with Dtube and Dlive? Is it rigged?

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fervi (66) · 6 years ago

Khy, khy - Dtube, khy, khy (Most gameplays are illegal on Dtube / Dlive)

Maybe create (or I can if you can't) a website that everybody can report you (anonymously) pool rapes

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taurus1983 (55) · 6 years ago

Hi @berniesanders, I've created a funny meme on dMania. :)

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a1businessyhsbd1 (21) · 6 years ago

Good

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mikeycinmountp (37) · 6 years ago (edited)

There's allot of anger up in here.

americangg.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/2017.04.27E.jpg
68.media.tumblr.com/77f10efd9716f79689328b8f77f2ac62/tumblr_inline_obb7iqzYNB1s8cjnx_540.jpg

The Quote is from 'Spies Like Us'
The Pepsi is from a fell on it's face add campaign I believe the pic is from one of the many protests in Berkley. Don't ask me which one when they have so many out there I doubt they could even tell me.

^all this extra crap kinda ruins it.
Made by me just now, don't care who uses it just don't claim it as your own. I really can't claim it as my own either this has been out there in the wild (in some form or another) since Pepsi made that fail commercial; I just happened to cut and paste this one together.
have a pepsi.png

^all this extra crap kinda ruins it.

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graphxguy (42) · 6 years ago (edited)

The problem isn't just that someone posted the ingredients of Nutella. The problem is the people who support posts like that, read the comments.
Lol
Great post
I love Nutella
That's so funny
The other problem is the Dmania Upvote Bot. If they want to choose one at random that's fine but at least check to see if it's original first. Whoever gets the Bot Vote automatically makes it to the trending page.

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thedaud (51) · 6 years ago (edited)

I think we should not blame tools or platforms but to those who are violating. Can not say more than it. @ned is a great guy he do not support spammers.

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baah (61) · 6 years ago

It seems that user paid for that Promotion job, but one user is not indicative of everyone is it?

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berniesanders (77) · 6 years ago

So you want more examples? Sure, coming right up. How many will make you happy? Did you see the nutella post?

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bearbear613 (67) · 6 years ago

well the nutella post was also pumped by pay bots..

aiding and embedding?

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booster (68) · 6 years ago

This post has received a 59.34 % upvote from @booster thanks to: @ngc.

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isfet.mage (36) · 6 years ago

Why do you have a (-17) behind your name?
How could this be achieved?

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smokeasare165 (49) · 6 years ago

at the end no one punish them or even flag them... they keep making money while and they dont see anything wrong with that...

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timothy256 (53) · 6 years ago

Incase you didn't know what dmania is all about...
ZomboMeme 15032018012529.jpg

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clove71 (72) · 6 years ago

I can relate to this post as I have submitted over 30 memes, most of which had my @clove71 on it yet never one upvote. Recently, I started taking off my name as I saw all the people they upvote do not have any names/tags at all! I do not think they upvote tagged memes often.

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jzroa (48) · 6 years ago

reading all comments about dmania just like this... yep.. never gets old... :)))

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motai (48) · 6 years ago

I think I like dmania too, it makes posting much easier and though I have not earned anything thus far, I have used it as a platform to upload videos then edit my posts in my blog. The upvoters reward, not dmania

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tonyelvis (21) · 6 years ago

You are very correct ,every post should be preveiwed to make sure the poster is the author of that very content,that is the way is done on bitlanders not people stealing contents and earn.

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randystiefer (59) · 6 years ago

Some of the examples may well fall under fair use and be considered transformative work. At which point no attribution is legally needed.

I've see an example where a "artist" added a comment to an instagram image then made and sold large prints of the image/comment combo. They where ruled transformative.

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