Moving to hive

mountainjewel (68) · 7 years ago

@dahlsom LOL!!!

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truthtellerhere (59) · 7 years ago

I love the humor. Planning scam for centuries. LOL :D

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randyw (61) · 7 years ago

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chrislo2004 (52) · 7 years ago

@leranion, ahah you are going to be nailed by the chinese, at least watch some korean dramas or kpop girl groups MTV to know that Haejin is a korean name lolz... and it is very common name...definitely not a chinese LMAO hahahha

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doujiang (47) · 7 years ago

yes it is！

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leranion (54) · 7 years ago (edited)

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

For us, it DOES MATTER. You are telling everybody he is Chinese. It's NOT TRUE.

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misslasvegas (71) · 7 years ago

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randyw (61) · 7 years ago

He IS Korean

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dahlsom (44) · 7 years ago

Has he been scamming the system throughout time? How old is that photo? 1820s?

chrislo2004 (52) · 7 years ago

you know theres a popular movie sword weilding man called the highlander that is an immortal, check it out

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chrislo2004 (52) · 7 years ago

i got a real question out of curiosity, who is the real person in this picture? like he must be somekind of a korean actor...would be good to know

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randyw (61) · 7 years ago

this seems to be him - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5364609/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

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dahlsom (44) · 7 years ago

HAHAHAH FUT.... But you can build your player how you like. It's early stages and these issues will get ironed out. No need to worry so much about returns in the short run. Let him do his thing until the platform grows. He's not preventing growth, he's posting and people seem to be reading the posts and following him. Clean house later.

fuckmylife (59) · 7 years ago

Don't steal, don't lie, don't cheat, don't sell drugs. The government hates competition!

lunix (53) · 7 years ago

honarparvar (72) · 7 years ago

as long as any post can benefit the community, why I should worry or get concerned?

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fakeinternetnews (56) · 7 years ago

I like your attitude. Yes, do the work and consistently upload and we will all do well. And I just noticed that the poster has a -18 reputation. MINUS! I've only been doing this in earnest for 9 days now and I have a 28 reputation. How many people do you have to piss off to get anywhere near minus on this thing. So my feelings about this post now is that it was designed to get the poster the maximum number of upvotes possible.

And, I have decided to ignore in-fighting and this troll.

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xutesleeks (25) · 7 years ago

Now I know what the figure in the brackets stands for. :-)

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misslasvegas (71) · 7 years ago

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honarparvar (72) · 7 years ago

then that's a scam which Steemit managers @ned should be concerned. thnks for information

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halozamus (25) · 7 years ago

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emma28 (58) · 7 years ago

Hahaha... 13 downvotes for this comment. I don't care this flag war. I just enjoyed them. I know, I am a little member and I can't do anything. I am very sad to see that you lost your reputation for this comment

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introvertspeaks (51) · 7 years ago

Lol--haejin looks like a member of the dreaded Abu Sayyaf group!

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obiwon (33) · 7 years ago

what that is?

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mstaxidrvr (29) · 7 years ago

ya, i'm curious also

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introvertspeaks (51) · 7 years ago

Try Googling it my friend.

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democratsonly (40) · 7 years ago

I spend half a year in the Philippines and Abu Sayyaf for those who do not know is the ISIL affiliated group there in Southern Philippines.

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crypto-empire (25) · 7 years ago

Is this really he on the picture? hahahahahaha

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

I doubt it. This looks like a 12 year old. If you listen to a video of his, he sounds like he's 70. This might be his Butt Buddy Ranchorelaxo.

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farazahmad (58) · 7 years ago (edited)

in this post check @sweetsssj is more than @haejin so why only haejin is on record only why not any action against her https://steemit.com/steem/@farazahmad/reality-of-sweetsssj-caught-is-this-legal-on-steemit-to-cheat-minnows

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charles1 (68) · 7 years ago

@sweetsssj does not post 10 times a day and has the best holiday post in steemit...no one nears her quality. She is rather good for steemit and deserves what she earns

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cflclosers (67) · 7 years ago

@farazahmed that is a good point but as far as I can recall sweetssj does really great posts and returns almost every comment on her posts and votes up a lot of the good ones so her audience earns money for their time. That seems legitimate to me. I don't know anything about haejin so I cannot comment .

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kareivy (25) · 7 years ago

sigueme y te sigo pleasee!

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steemingmark (55) · 7 years ago

you are getting confused with @cryptoempire bit bot think you need to work something out ... Thanks

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llanos (25) · 7 years ago

HAEJIN is being paid to everyone XD

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cryptomatrix (25) · 7 years ago

Good for him. he should be an inspiration to all of us :) is showing us the way...

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tuck-fheman (74) · 7 years ago

lol

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mominsdt (49) · 7 years ago

He is flagging honest steemians comments. I am victim.

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beeznutz (27) · 7 years ago

Those Attributes need a little clarification:

Pace - 0
Honor - 0
Trustworthiness? Truthfulness? Truculence ? - 0
Abuse/abusiveness - 99
Decency? Deceptiveness? DECOMPOSER ? (Maybe @haejin is a serial composter...) - 99
Physique/Physical whatever - 01

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toe-tag (9) · 7 years ago

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aashik (37) · 7 years ago

But we can't earn from steemit .... why....?? nobody response our post..

nikikopolapa (25) · 7 years ago

It is really hard to get a response at a post, or anything the steemit is saturated with loads of writers that want to express themselves, and striving in that kind of competition is hard. I'm responding on your post, so will other people too, you just need to ask the right questions.
Have a nice day.

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jasonls (25) · 7 years ago

I'm responding to this response that was a response to a deleted response in hopes of gaining acceptance and clicks on my ignored posts

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aashik (37) · 7 years ago

ha ha ha.... you r right... thanks for comments

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importanteye (34) · 7 years ago

I commented you and you never responded back

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cloudsabovenine (28) · 7 years ago

I'll respond

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kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago

From steemreports its roughly 70% from 2 users (roughly 35% from himself and roughly 35% from ranchoralexo)

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clasicktv (66) · 7 years ago

So if am understanding correctly, is it just whales supporting and upvoting themselves in order to get back author/curation rewards? I see so many doing it, yet have a hard time breaking it down to see how it effects the whole community! I guess you should share your Steem Power as that is how the community will grow with quality content! Just my .02 cents since I just started to buy more Steem and then Powering it up since I see the growth on the platform! I also took advantage of the SBD/STEEM pricing to get almost 1.6X, I am still learning but man I finally got it! If anyone here suggest anything differnt, please let me know as I am looking to increase potential Steem Power over time, just want to do it the best way. I see all these resteem accounts and whale accounts, but how can going that route be better than just organically growing it? @kryzsec @berniesanders

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kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago

So to answer your first question, that is kind of what is going on here. How it affects the entire community is that there is a limited amount of Steem in existence and it gets shared through the reward pool using the PoB algorithm. However if all the whales upvoted themselves then the reward pool would be depleted and the value of an upvote (and flag) will become 0, basically.

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jasonyoakam (43) · 7 years ago

What's hard for me to wrap my head around is why I wouldn't vote for my own posts. It increases exposure, and rewards myself for participating, which makes me want to participate more. On the other hand, it feels like it's cheating the system, even for a Dolphin? Large Minnow? like myself. I try to balance it for myself morally by upvoting at least one other person for every upvote I give myself. I don't know if that's enough...

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thehoneys (60) · 7 years ago

Currently, my vote is worth 2 cents, and I can vote 10 times a day for 2 cents. (Which, I love doing - feeling like a high roller at 2 cents! LOL!). But, I only do one post every 3 to 5 days, so, feel it's somewhat fair to upvote myself once out of 30 to 50 votes. But, I do enjoy giving it to others, because of course, 2 cents isn't going to make or break me. But, when I'm staring at a post that I poured my heart into, and it's got 4 cents on it, my finger gets twitchy over the vote button! :).

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abajnath (53) · 7 years ago

keep it up.

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asianetwork (55) · 7 years ago

i know how u feel. but we always have that hope of "oh, maybe it could somehow help to boost the post, a vote is still a vote"

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thehoneys (60) · 7 years ago

And now it seems my vote has dropped down to 1 cent for some reason! I was so excited when it was worth 2!!! :)

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asianetwork (55) · 7 years ago

time to pump up the SPs then =)
the more you invest, the more returns you get

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wanasoloben (61) · 7 years ago

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minigunner (52) · 7 years ago

Steemit should have a max 5 posts a day limit. That would cut him of 50%.

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sabrin514 (45) · 7 years ago

I love this idea because some people create posts that are complete crap just to vote themselves more rewards.

Maybe we should not limit the persons number of posts, but limit how many posts they are allowed to get any rewards for... like after the first post, the rewards would be reduced by 75% and the post after that the reward would be reduced by 90% until if they posted say more than 4 times in a day, only the first or maybe second post would be worth posting simply for the monetary value.

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leehope (25) · 7 years ago

good idea i think

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charles1 (68) · 7 years ago

I suggest 2 and when steemit crossed 2M members then 1 daily to avoid flooding

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democratsonly (40) · 7 years ago

The idea is to invest and buy steem. I m new and waiting for my steem to transfer but I think the idea is the whales are whales because they invest in the Steem and platform.

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superdavey (52) · 7 years ago

That kinda sounds like censorship. If one makes 5 posts and makes another great one but has to wait...

Then if this happens quite often there would be posts that could never happen because of an arbitrary number.

Just playing devils advocate

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blackserpent (43) · 7 years ago

Any attempt at limiting like that would just mean he would need extra accounts so it would have no real effect.

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jeffandhisguitar (66) · 7 years ago

Good call man. Problem solved.

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

Then he would make 10 more accounts.

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itharagaian (64) · 7 years ago

so true, especially when you see the bigger fishes playing the game with their own rules

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maeolloves143 (45) · 7 years ago

Chuckles*

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soul-thru-da-ink (54) · 7 years ago

Sharing some love. It's not much, but it's something =)

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Your voting over the past 100 days

kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

So here are the stats for your outgoing and incoming votes (by weight) over the past 100 days and mine. Personally someone up voting themselves with a few $1 (or less) votes (while abusive to many) is slightly abusive in nature but nowhere near as bad as the bigger guys doing it. Remember by weight means that if you upvote yourself 20x at 100% and someone else upvotes you 40x at 50% then they have given you between 49.897215469% of your votes by weight and you have given yourself 50.10278453% of your votes. You decide what you make of the numbers these provide though. I would prefer a few thousand minnows upvoting themselves, and distributing the rewards over a large population, over a single user getting that reward... personally

Mine over 100 days.

Breakdown of your income over 100 days

Breakdown of my income

Btw, the calculation for finding the amount of voting done by weight is a little more complex then what I did (rough approximation) and is supposed to take into account the SP of the voters as well, I didn't in my hypothetical situation.

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jasonyoakam (43) · 7 years ago (edited)

Thanks for the breakdown. I just don't know what to make of this ethically. On one hand I do want to contribute and add value to people, on the other hand it seems profitable to always upvote yourself while at the same time upvoting others. It's something I'm having trouble wrapping my head around economically and ethically. In an ideal world all of my upvotes would be from other people, but it's like I have this "free" money here since I spent my hard-earned money to buy steem, so it would feel wasteful not to at least allocate part of it to myself if I feel that I am contributing in some meaningful way to the conversation.

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kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago

Well if it helps you out, if you reward others then it is likely that they will be more likely to trade it around or get more people to buy into it this increasing the value where if you just reward yourself and nobody else then it is less likely to increase your value in the long run. Basically it becomes a quick buck and thats it. So how you come to a decision on what it morally right or wrong, up to you... but at least what you are doing isn't decreasing the value of the reward pool in amounts that are actually noticeable to other people.

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jasonyoakam (43) · 7 years ago (edited)

Well if nothing else your resources gave me a chance to objectively look at the proportions, which gives me a more accurate idea of how I feel about it. (When I just do 1 upvote for someone else with content I appreciate and 1 for myself when I contribute meaningfully, it feels pretty fair, but seeing the numbers in a pie chart... it feels a lot different). Thanks for helping me clarify my feelings on the matter.

soul-thru-da-ink (54) · 7 years ago

I don't think it's bad to self vote. You can only do it once per post anyways. I agree that by balancing it out with rewarding others for decent comments or posts, you remain true to the goal of the platform.

Maybe if you're a huge whale with a crazy amount of power and you're only posting to upvote yourself, then that's not really fair. But there's nothing preventing that. In the end, the majority of us are here because of some kind of financial incentive. Otherwise, there are platforms like Medium, which boasts 30,000,000 readers and features regularly curated content that features on their homepage.

Plus, I feel that it's a waste for me to remain at 100% voting power. Unfortunately, i don't always have the time to find great content, read and upvote, and that's because I have a demanding job.

There are a lot of empty posts on Steemit too like "this is a flower, please like and follow me. Follow for Follow". I'm tired of that.

I realized that I made a mistake by immediately following back anybody that followed me or engaged on my posts, because I ended up with all that crappy content in my feed. I'm working on cleaning up my following list and reducing it to only those that I feel are actually worth following! Otherwise, it's hard to find good content when you land on the home page!

Content is King! And if you invest the time to write great articles then you should reward yourself with a little upvote too. Because you deserve that!

And without a decent following or an investment in upvote bots, it becomes difficult to gain visibility on your posts, and it just gets lost in the noise.

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likedeeler (66) · 7 years ago

For great content I invite you to look at @ecotrain, a nice mix.
I understand your difficulties with finding great content, if the ecotrain authors sometimes don´t put out the usual number of articles in a day, for whatever reason, busy with other stuff I guess, I also don´t really know where to check and what to read and what to upvote.

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jeffandhisguitar (66) · 7 years ago

Well said soul.
If you want music to listen too whilst you clean your page,
I'm your man :). Original curator.

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phgnomo (64) · 7 years ago

The Mute button is your friend.

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johano (59) · 7 years ago

Yes, specially if you write in a minority language it is hard to get noticed.

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dexter-k (67) · 7 years ago

There is nothing wrong with voting for your own posts, it's well within your rights to do so, however there comes a point when it becomes blatant abuse. For example, you are allowed by the system of steemit to upvote your comments as well, but if you were to say, spam hundreds of one word comments on old and irrelevant posts and then 100% upvote them yourself that would be seen as abuse, since you are not contributing anything to the system, only taking from it. Haejin's posts are seen as abuse because of the sheer amount of them. He could EASILY combine them all into three or maybe even four posts per day, but he posts like ELEVEN per day. The reason he does this is because he can maximise rewards that way, and take more of the community reward pool for himself. He also doesn't do anything to engage with the community here, just take from it. Anyhow, the main point is: Voting for your own post is totally ok, abusing the system by posting a ton of low value and then upvoting it yourself is not ok.

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martin-s-k (29) · 7 years ago

Yeah! The whole upvote of your own post seems so narcissistic. But hey! -I do it! Nobody else is doing it! HA! :P

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gsusgod (48) · 7 years ago

^Reference: Black Mirror season 3 episode "Nosedive". An appropriate metaphor.

yuckboys (45) · 7 years ago

So I'm new here guys, how do i get a whale, shark, or large minnow to upvote me? I promise not to type in all caps or even use title formats when im posting or replying (at least most of the time but old habits die hard). I also promise not to complain or try to load my bandwagon with people whom your lofty contribution effects blatantly or indirectly. as far as i'm concerned : And To Whomever This Applies:whalealert.gif

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theinsideout (52) · 7 years ago

Well, those of us who are trying to grow our accounts have a big incentive to engage by commenting, voting, following, etc. It's hardly torture -- I mean, most of us are happy to vote and reply if another user visits our posts. At the same time, it's obviously self interest because we want to grow our networks.

Still, I guess it's easy enough to understand why people who already have a large stake don't have to work that hard. Also, the sketchier the information that you provide, the less you would probably want to say about it.

Still, many of the whales do take an active interest in growing their following and helping out small fish -- which is really cool. I'm just sort of amazed that the whales in question are still so brazen and shameless after getting called out so many times.

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idikuci (61) · 7 years ago

yes but for whales it is also self interest that they choose to upvote minnows. See right now steem is somewhere between $4-$6. If we bring in new people (and they stay and buy steem and power up) this creates demand for steem, which will take the price of steem to (eventually) $100. So, if you have 100,000 steem and you encourage new people to join and help steem hit $100, you just made $99,400,000. If you post dailt and just take from the reward pool, (haejin makes approx $4,000,000 per yr) it will take him 24 yrs to earn that. where as, steem can hit $100 in under 2 years...

So it's more profitable to actually be nice. and not rape the reward pool

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nomad0712 (41) · 7 years ago

Totally agree! Be nice here, be nice in the real world and help anybody you can without asking for anything in return. The life has its own ways to thank you for your kindness. Keep up the good work Dear Steamians! May the power be with you!

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jasonyoakam (43) · 7 years ago

So, if you have 100,000 steem and you encourage new people to join and help steem hit $100, you just made $99,400,000.

That's a really good point that I hadn't considered in the whole incentives structure debate. The question is how does that balance with my obvious self-interest to up-vote myself when I respond to your post? Shouldn't I be able to reward myself if I own enough Steem? It's a really weird dilemma to try to work through.

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idikuci (61) · 7 years ago

you can reward yourself. Everyone can. In a previous hard fork there self upvotes weren't allowed by the steem blockchain. But there is an easy work around... create a new account and upvote that one instead, same shit...

My arguement isn't meant to stop people from upvoting themselves, feel free to do it, if you bought steem you've invested and self upvoting is a way to recoup money on your investment. I'm just saying you will make a shit tonne more money if you upvote other people instead.

A rising tide lifts all ships. We are all on the same ocean, so you can either use your upvote try build a dam and lift your own boat, or contribute to steem, play the game give everything away and watch your invest grow....

Now here's the fun part. The example you quoted, was with steem at $100... that's easy, year or two steem will be at $100 (provided enough new people keep coming in and qualtiy content also increases). Now think about 5 years from now. steem at $1,000... suddenly, that $10,000,000 in steem (100,000 SP) is worth $100,000,000... All because you weren't selfish. because there are 100 million steemit users, because SMTs are here...

and your 4,293.181 is worth $4,293,181 that is why you shouldn't be selfish...

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kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago

That is true, but try to explain that to haejin or his followers

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hirikoto (29) · 7 years ago

I feel like people just dont give a damn about it. For some reasons they just prefer to stick to their old habits and not browse through the steemit to look for the steemians that touch the similiar topics as @haejin. Who knows, maybe certain people do it two times better but they get pennies, because they are not so well known.
Anyway I think it should get clear and obvious for all of us that someone is standing behind @haejin to upvote and uprank his posts, just take a look at the reward: almost everywhere they are equal to 300 $. I would love to see this madness being stopped.

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kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago

Ranchoralexo is standing behind and supporting haejin

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bitgion (26) · 7 years ago

Yes, it seems so.

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misslasvegas (71) · 7 years ago

I have the feeling they're one and the same. I also saw that Haejin only ever delegated (100! lol) SP to another user. This user is now copying most of his posts into Korean and posting them as well...If that's not fishy, then I don't know.

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soul-thru-da-ink (54) · 7 years ago

Great point! It is smart to hold Steem for the long-haul. It has some serious potential. I am powering down a little now, as I need some extra cash to help finance my house move, but then I'm keeping the rest in the platform.

And I am looking at a long term plan to build up Steem by posting quality content!

idikuci (61) · 7 years ago

I understand, if you need to power down then so be it. but if yo udo get a chance, buy more steem when you can. It will be worth it.

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marloujen (32) · 7 years ago

This make sense. I am new and hardly understand steem language. But this is the most logical comment I ever encounter in my few days here.

likedeeler (66) · 7 years ago

would you mind checking your math again please, I think you´re off by factor ten

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idikuci (61) · 7 years ago

100,000 add 00 on the end, becomes 100,000,00 move comma to the left by 1 digit 10,000,000 looks good to me

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idikuci (61) · 7 years ago

100,000 add two zeros to multiply by 100 = 100,000,00. Move comma left to put it in the right position = 10,000,000.

How are you calculating it?

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likedeeler (66) · 7 years ago

I´m still one of those old-fashioned guys who calculate in their head and to whom it appears to be a miracle if you have 100,000 Steem at 6 US$/Steem which turns into 10,000,000 US$ when Steem is at 100 US$ and then "you just made $ 99,400,000."
But who knows in this wonderful world of crypto and technology, of which I understand very little, anything seems possible.

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fakeinternetnews (56) · 7 years ago

Also, under the Steemit logo it reads "beta". So, we know it will get better. And hopefully loops holes will be taken out so all users can have a equal chance at succeeding.

But, it's good to call people out who are abusing the system and think only of themselves.

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cadawg (68) · 7 years ago (edited)

Basically, all posts share a pool of x amount of steem power & SBD, split across all the users being upvoted at that time, so when someone takes 70%, that only leaves 30% for the rest of the community to share between us, and that is how it affects us, I think!

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adil041 (25) · 7 years ago

not actual

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idikuci (61) · 7 years ago

yup, that's it. But no one can take 70%...

We have a limited reward pool that's created everyday and distributed according to votes.

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kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago

Kind of, it is a little more complex then that but for a very basic explanation, yes.

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fry (45) · 7 years ago

I'm with ya, brother.

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designdog (25) · 7 years ago

完全不明白你们的意思

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crypto-gains (34) · 7 years ago

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amigoponc (54) · 7 years ago

Friend, the epicenter of the problem is that the steem community is made to make money; The basic principles of sharing, giving opinions, having a good time like any other social network has become a juicy business. That's why, now in steem there are the famous mafias or whales as you well define them ...

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hirikoto (29) · 7 years ago

I am really so god damn glad that someone finally used his brain and moved on this problem because it should be fucking fixed!
Steemit is made for the community, it wasnt designed for the minority to take the rewards for them alone but for all the peoplw that wish to give some insight, publish their work or even just discuss on common things!
I never got dissapointed on @berniesanders, i remember him being almost at the top on steem but things changed nowadays. Even tho, he is just same as he was: a simply great guy that cares and supports the whole website along with the community, after all someone needs to guard the quality here, am i right?

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kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago

Many use their brains on this problem, its just many do not know how voting works so they do not see a problem.

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tesselart (59) · 7 years ago

You upvote stuff you like? Isn't that how it works?

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kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago

smh... the technical ways it works, mathematically. Where the value of an upvote comes from and shit... nvm

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gothika47 (48) · 7 years ago

I agree. At the start i was thinking he had a lot of people voting for him because he made good content... now i see its basically a farm...

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tonyr (60) · 7 years ago

Steemit is made for the community, it wasnt designed for the minority to take the rewards for them alone

:) Are you absolutely sure about that?

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penderis (63) · 7 years ago

Haha, first thing I thought when reading your comment was "I thought it was implied with steem being power based"... Since steem is democratic, can't we vote to kick haejin and fam? until they can figure out how their blockchain never considered the biggest threat which is human nature itself.

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lionidas (47) · 7 years ago

Didn’t you just join?

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hirikoto (29) · 7 years ago

Nope, I didn't just "join".
Im into steemit since the half of 2016, however I have lost my old account because I installed a new system on the disk where I had the password... I hope i'll recover it tho!
Anyway, greed,jelous and abuse were present on steemit.com since the very beginning, thats why we are obligated to fight the people that corrupt our community: that is my point of view.
I dont like when people use steemit only because it might provide some profits, it is a great tool for a publishers or bloggers that do not even expect profits: still, we have thousands of people that are making posts only because they hope that one day, a guy with the high account value with give them an upvote...

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gabbyg86 (61) · 7 years ago

Gotta stand up for the bro-nies!

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cakalakkabumbum (25) · 7 years ago

come follow and vote on @cakalakkabumbum for followback and boom vote

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lorddanzi (44) · 7 years ago

Yea... I have noticed it even as a newbie. It's not just fair. My highest so far is just $1.07. @lorddanzi

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mryuss (44) · 7 years ago

i've got $2.006 from 24 persons,, im a month old or maybe two and thats my very first time to gain that amount

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kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago

Well I gave you some more rewards,

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marloujen (32) · 7 years ago

could you give me one too? Thanks. ha ha.

ladyh24 (25) · 7 years ago

lol

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mryuss (44) · 7 years ago

wow such generosity

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tejjesh (31) · 7 years ago

i agree with you bro....

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donovanbanyard (41) · 7 years ago

Ive literally just joined and I'm so thankful I've come across this, is his steem pwr so high that his rewards to himself are that great? Thus just pumping more of his rewards into pwr to upvote himself? I'm still new to it all.

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kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago

Yeah, thats about it too

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makingthebest09 (54) · 7 years ago

What's the resteem counter number at?? haha

whales of crypto.gif

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moe68 (19) · 7 years ago

money rules the world!

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cadawg (68) · 7 years ago

Sad, but true. I mean, why are most of us here?

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tntdabomb (62) · 7 years ago

Because Steemit is cool and awesome? Someone brought me here. I didn't join because of monetary incentive. Although it does feel good to get paid, even if it's just a penny

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ladyh24 (25) · 7 years ago

yea, it feels good to get paid

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midfrost (33) · 7 years ago

So, not #Sol then? giggles

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marloujen (32) · 7 years ago

yeah! the more you have the more powerful you are

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nuella (60) · 7 years ago

Are there greedy people in steemit?

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marloujen (32) · 7 years ago

they are everywhere.

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navjot (25) · 7 years ago

Join FB group

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xiomi32 (32) · 7 years ago

when the whales begin to lower their voice?)))

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rajuahamed (6) · 7 years ago

good post me follow you

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henryblac (25) · 7 years ago

hey.. how did you do the statistics?

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kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago

Look at the upvotes received by @haejin in the past 100 days (by weight) and you notice that by weight, 71% of his upvotes comes from himself and ranchoralexo. Meaning that roughly 71% of his rewards come from them

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marloujen (32) · 7 years ago

interesting, how did they do it?

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kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago

Extensive VP and voting at 100% on everything haejin posts.

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asianetwork (55) · 7 years ago

so if he votes himself, meaning that he is just recycling his votes everytime, making it look like lots of ppl vote for him when its actually himself. what is him and rachoralexo are the same person?

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osolt (25) · 7 years ago

great post congrats

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renej (40) · 7 years ago

any system has its faults and weakness, its the communties job to fight them, sadly this will occur over and over again

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bachone (54) · 7 years ago

This is why we are following "The Good Whale" instead

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spiritualmax (64) · 7 years ago

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stanhopeofficial (57) · 7 years ago

UBR: Destroy target Haejin

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rikuforsell (25) · 7 years ago

That's cool card! 😎😁

estream.studios (67) · 7 years ago

This card made my day!!! :)

spiritualmax (64) · 7 years ago

Shameless self-promotion... you should see my other ones!
Cheers

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waphilip (63) · 7 years ago

Lmao I love this ahahaha

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lorddanzi (44) · 7 years ago

This card is by far the most awesome thing I have seen on steemit. Team bernie sanders all the way.

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jason7282 (61) · 7 years ago

Bernie Sanders speaks the truth!

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coanj (31) · 7 years ago

Hahahaha LOL!

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endymionoriax (44) · 7 years ago

i would play this ; but why is it not LEGENDARY ?!

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kamilo.sin.k2105 (42) · 7 years ago

what a awesome card, i need it xD

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obeyempresz (0) · 7 years ago

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atmosblack (63) · 7 years ago

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michaellamden68 (69) · 7 years ago

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12 votes

mr-lahey (25) · 7 years ago

7 votes

fechaugger (48) · 7 years ago

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

True. iv seen many amazing posts getting next to nothing, and some really dum posts are trending with 100z of dollars.

5 votes

biffybirdcam (65) · 7 years ago

all too often.

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mr-lahey (25) · 7 years ago

Indeed

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estadocida (34) · 7 years ago

agreed! but, i think we can revert this. there are many more of us here interested in actually quality posts. are we all whales? absolutely not, but if we keep up our good work,. i do think we'll all restore value to this platform. i know i sound like an optimistic fool, but as i see it now, this is the only way to fix this disequilibrium on steemit. kick, censor and other things wont do.

truly engaging even with our 2 cents (lol literally) will eventually lower the value of this haejins dude scheme.

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hellconnon (25) · 7 years ago

:D only reason i voted for your post

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mr-lahey (25) · 7 years ago

I feel that! Still trying to figure out how to catch a whale instead of all these "minnows"

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umerfarooqorak (17) · 7 years ago

Please guys finish drama of this fake and crap haejin. He is stealing money . Only he drew cup with lines and put on post. @salahuddin2004 is much better than this crap.

5 votes

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@haejin/bitcoin-btc-morning-update-a-different-perspective#@umerfarooqorak/re-scorer-re-haejin-bitcoin-btc-morning-update-a-different-perspective-20180124t174716016z

umerfarooqorak (17) · 7 years ago (edited)

Please guys help me to fight aganist haejin. I put comment in his recent post upvote that comment to visible to everyone. @bachone @berniesanders @spiritualmax @stanhopeofficial @rikuforsell @estream.studios @ngc @danknugs @theyeti @sonny.dharmawan @t-belema @the.bot @ozchartart @rewardpoolrape @nextgencrypto
His recent post in which he lies

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mr-lahey (25) · 7 years ago

How is he stealing money exactly?

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gabbyg86 (61) · 7 years ago

I don't know who the good whale is but I'm in. "dar she blows" lol

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mr-lahey (25) · 7 years ago

lol

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a-lek (16) · 7 years ago

the very Big good whale

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iamthegray (62) · 7 years ago

Who is the good whale?

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https://steemit.com/crypto/@just2random/1-more-day-of-haejin-20-20-hindsight-results-from-15-1-2018

sonny.dharmawan (58) · 7 years ago (edited)

Haejin’’s followers should read these reviews from @just2random. Almost all of Haejin’s TA were failed !

https://steemit.com/crypto/@just2random/1-day-of-haejin-20-20-hindsight-results-from-14-1-2018

Thanks @just2random for showing this to us

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reidlist (56) · 7 years ago

No way! Can't believe his reading of tea leaves can't predict the future.

davidblackwell (46) · 7 years ago

It's been very profitable for me. I got out of bitcoin when he pointed out a head in shoulders pattern around $18,000 and bought back at his target around $11,000. I then sold that around $15,000 when he said the correction isn't done. I still don't think he is sharing the information ethically though. Some posts hardly have anything on them.

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago (edited)

look at the reward pool rapes done by whales on hot chicks, friends, family, gf, etc. The only way to get rid of this mess is by removing the trending, promoted and hot pages. only then genuine posts will get good upvotes. since iv joined steemit, 95% of the time the top trending posts are all almost on same topics. Basically if ur not a hot chick or not a programmer or not related to whales or not a famous youtuber, u dont get anything for your posts, no matter howmuch you have worked hard on it.

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9 votes

gothika47 (48) · 7 years ago

How would removing the pages stop him from getting upvoted from 1-2 people over and over?

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

People who wanna cheat, are going to cheat. do u think whales and programmers here are not cheating? But, all the minnows, dolphins get a fair chance if trending/hot/promoted pages are removed. that way one will only search for posts/blogs one likes. Start noting down the top 20 trending posts daily for next few months, you will realise that most of the time its the same type of posts and sometimes same blogger too.

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stahlberg (61) · 7 years ago

Limit number of posts to 4 a day. In fact even 4 is too many unless you're 2 or 3 people making new content to post. Remember this is a site for CREATORS, where HIGH QUALITY content is supposed to be rewarded. So far the rules don't do that.
Also lower the threshhold for when votes start to lose value, to make it less profitable to use paid bots.

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veerall (50) · 7 years ago

We super rarely see high quality content on trending page.

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andyfishman (53) · 7 years ago

\i would say ban the bots altogether.

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stahlberg (61) · 7 years ago

Yes true, but it's impossible coding-wise apparently. So best bet is to make them less profitable to use.

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liverehab (57) · 7 years ago

I like that idea personally. We write about addiction and recovery which is already a hard subject area. Perhaps a reward curve that is more algo based to encourage content discovery and sharing with people unknown to you?

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missrawly (25) · 7 years ago

Is this true? I am new on Steemit and I would really like to maximize my time here. How do I go about that?

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missrawly (25) · 7 years ago

Is this true? I am new on Steemit and I would really like to maximize my time here. How do I go about that?

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sirstacksalot (63) · 7 years ago

Well, I guess in a decentralized system like this, skirmishes are inevitable.

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sidibeat (58) · 7 years ago

He's no community person. Just going for his profits.. Thanks for making it a public thing and for laying the focus of the community on this problem.

Steemians flag the shit out of him.

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spiritualmax (64) · 7 years ago

Problem is every whale prefers to stick their head in the sand instead of going for it... they're so fearful of hurting their own massive RPs...

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danyelk (69) · 7 years ago

I couldn't have said it better.

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j4y (45) · 7 years ago

The problem is that we are relying on the whales to flag in order to reduce the rewards for a user. That doesn't scale because it requires manual effort.

Is there a way that this can be solved in an automated fashion?

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spiritualmax (64) · 7 years ago

A Flag Curation trail of sorts?

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lyndsaybowes (71) · 7 years ago

Anyone can donate SP to @steemlegion.

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reidlist (56) · 7 years ago

You could probably get a donation pool to an account that flags all of his posts, but honestly I don't know if I necessarily like the idea of targeting a user like that. I agree that he's unlikely to post anything that's worth much, but it just feels like a bad precedent.

rose98734 (64) · 7 years ago (edited)

You don't need to flag him, you just need to upvote someone else.

The reward pool is fixed per 24 hours (because new coins are being minted at a steady rate) and they are shared out by percentages. Therefore if you vote for someone else, it's the equivalent of downvoting haejin, the post you upvoted will gain by the same amount his goes down as the percentages shift.

The real issue is that people are not doing ther 10 votes a day, and the whales are not really voting. If they went out and voted for good stuff, the percentage of the pot that haejin gets would shrink. And they could achieve their goals without flagging wars.

sidibeat (58) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hmm yea makes sense.. But it wouldn't be as funny though ^^
It feels like this whole platform is like a huge playground for the whales..
Im voting more than 10 times a day. I don't care much about my voting power since I delegated all of my SP to my voting bot @siditech..
Feel free to use it if it helps to bring down haejin ^^ It's still very new and not much used so the profit you get form 0.1sbd invest is still very high.
However all of my steempower is used min. 10 times a day.

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supermeatboy (67) · 7 years ago

Damn, wasn´t even aware of that. Spend some 100% Downvotes on him although i seldomly flag people. #fightingthegoodfight #yetshamelesselfupvote

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t-belema (39) · 7 years ago

On one of his posts, i mentioned the fact that it was not nice that he never replies to any comment and of course i got no reply. that is actually the sad truth. All he cares about is to post and collect his earning never get involved with anyone or anything the most pitiful thing is that he even does not respond to his supporters except resteeming some of their posts that is in his favour. THAT is one fact that annoys me the most.

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spiritualmax (64) · 7 years ago

If he was any good at trading he wouldn't need to do this btw... just trust his own predictions and multiply his earnings over and over again..

But it is easier to do it here by exploiting the system and drawing bullshit cups :D

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reidlist (56) · 7 years ago

Yeah, I'm sure he'd say he's performing a public service if you asked him.

igster (63) · 7 years ago

Yep, Haejin sure loves cups. Made me chuckle.

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

That's because he is too busy working on his next $300+ "analysis".

fechaugger (48) · 7 years ago

If even one out of ten of these predictions would be realistic.
Then he should be the richest man on earth.

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t-belema (39) · 7 years ago

lool, yeah that's true cos he's always tagging busy!!!

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iwanttruth (43) · 7 years ago

THE "BUSY" tag is a way to get a free upvote from busy.org , a site that uses the steemit
API . he's not tagging that hes busy haha.

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t-belema (39) · 7 years ago

meeeen! lol, did not know. was wondering. all the same the guy is annoying. period.

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reidlist (56) · 7 years ago

He engages with Steemit 0%. He has nothing but an army of uninvested minnows that follow him.

karlvillem (34) · 7 years ago (edited)

Ofcourse it's not nice but that's just natural for a website that has rewards, let's be honest. Half the people joined because you get rewards for posts.

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t-belema (39) · 7 years ago

yes of course!!! but then, just be nice and respond to some pple! it'll cost nothing. for once i need to see his response to somebody. check some good earners they actually take their time to respond to comments. we are are all busy you know.

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reidlist (56) · 7 years ago

It's clear that if he had an interest in actually maintaining a good following and contributing something of worth he would engage his followers, but he doesn't care about his followers, as long as he upvotes himself with his alt account he has the money he's after.

hellconnon (25) · 7 years ago

totaly agree. I think that it is natural to want money and stuff but it is also great to interact with people. Like @pasaift says in this post https://steemit.com/steemit/@pasaift/come-for-the-rewards-stay-for-the-community steemit is all about the community even though most of the ppl here joined steemit for the rewards :)

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kbarrett (48) · 7 years ago

Half...? Try 100%.

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jackie2017 (44) · 7 years ago

If someone leaves a comment he should at least respond to comments. So sad really. I do love steemit platform...

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mr-lahey (25) · 7 years ago

sad

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oneazania (56) · 7 years ago

If I were scamming someone, I wouldn't speak to them either.

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t-belema (39) · 7 years ago

i would not say he was scamming people, i would love to think that the guy just misbehaves, and still remains lucky.

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taurus1983 (55) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hi @berniesanders, if you and @grumpycat don't join forces, we'll never solve our problems with the reward pool thieves on Steemit.

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reidlist (56) · 7 years ago

We need more whales like these two. Even if I don't always agree with what they do, it's nice to know there are people with influence trying to curb behavior that damages the site in the long term.

berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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yesaye (53) · 7 years ago

Dayum, @berniesanders be calling out the caller!

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kbarrett (48) · 7 years ago

He's at -18... literally has nothing to lose lol

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jsteem (52) · 7 years ago

Upvoted. I hope this stops, this guys disgusting.

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twinner (68) · 7 years ago

What pill do you prefer? It's your choice.

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hunterharvard (25) · 7 years ago

Wel being I am a Travis Scott fan... maybe both?

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fuckmylife (59) · 7 years ago

I prefer the pill that gets you ripped Fuck this crypto shit

hamza77 (9) · 7 years ago

I prefer the pill that you already get :D

fuckmylife (59) · 7 years ago

Ok, but you are getting it in suppository format .....

hamza77 (9) · 7 years ago

you have too much experience !! i think it's your daily routine to get pill in suppository format.. :D

fuckmylife (59) · 7 years ago

Don't you know, it gets you higher a lot fast man!!

hamza77 (9) · 7 years ago

I don't like to go higher a lot :)

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syahrulr010 (29) · 7 years ago

Nice

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codemonkeyindy (3) · 7 years ago

... then the HOMELESS COIN is the right crypto FOR YOU!

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fuckmylife (59) · 7 years ago

I will grant you three wishes

codemonkeyindy (3) · 7 years ago

Thanks man ... (thanks)

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jrlabz (26) · 7 years ago

lol ill take the RED

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raistlin908 (35) · 7 years ago

RED!!! Lol

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mandeepbhalla (25) · 7 years ago

Red Pill, Morpheus

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lifeinspired (47) · 7 years ago (edited)

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steemchiller (74) · 7 years ago

You have earned ~ 129.31 USD in your first week on Steemit and are leaving the platform because of that? Most minnows make a few cents in their first days btw...

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jasonyoakam (43) · 7 years ago

Thank you for this. Some people just need to complain...

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telos (57) · 7 years ago

Where did you get that reward estimate? I don't think I know that tool...

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jasonyoakam (43) · 7 years ago

https://steemworld.org/

It's pretty useful!

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evol14life (32) · 7 years ago (edited)

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mindreader (54) · 7 years ago

Exactly,thank you! Some people just wanna make a quick buck,instead of building something for the future.

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theessential (53) · 7 years ago

I’ve been here a month and yes I’ve had several quality posts get no views or very little. I made a post today that has had no action at all —-BUT I’ve also had comments make $15.00 and if I’m really feeling bad, I have up voters bots to give me a confidence boost. I know that if I stick to it, I will eventually do alright. You can’t expect this to happen over night. The people making 300 dollars on a picture, have a huge following. That takes time. Even if the post is shit- their following wants to give back to them for their time spent here.

So don’t give up.. well actually- give up...because Steemit needs people who want to bust their ass for pennies. That’s the kinda of people that make Steemit a worth while place to be.

Peace.
@theessential

improvisedgeek (31) · 7 years ago

goood luck mate
@improvisedgeek

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spectrumecons (69) · 7 years ago

Steemit without doubt has its problems. Please don't give up on it yet. Together we can make things better. Exposing the truth is a key to doing that. Steemit is extremely transparent. I hope you change your mind.

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jiren (16) · 7 years ago

I agree

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mindreader (54) · 7 years ago

Steemit is still an "infant" basically,nobody says it's perfect,obviously there is a lot to do.But exposing the flaws at the beginning and take care of them on time is very important.

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sdossey (26) · 7 years ago

RESPECT

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harj (56) · 7 years ago (edited)

lifeinspired joined steemit in 2018 and expects to be same as a steemian who has either invested loads of hard earned money or more time to build a network.sorry either bring investment or work hard like all of us.

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lifeinspired (47) · 7 years ago

You have my upvote all day. 👊

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mr23.ace (26) · 7 years ago

Hes not leaving steemit just trying to generate publicity

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foxtech (25) · 7 years ago

Bye Felicia, perfect time to back out of a already functioning platform which is still in its infancy and growing exponentially. Have you ever been on any kind of dev team before? There are always bumps in the road with any new platform release. Steemit will thrive with or without you.

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michaellamden68 (69) · 7 years ago

$2.80

https://steemdb.com/steem/@berniesanders/haejin-is-stealing-your-rewards/reblogs

followbtcnews (67) · 7 years ago

@berniesanders here are the reblogs so far for this post

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isnochys (66) · 7 years ago (edited)

All steem users are currently going through the five stages of grief in this case:

Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance

I guess, most arrived already at the 5. stage:
Acceptance

Not saying, that we should stop there, we could add another stage:
REVENGE

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spiritualmax (64) · 7 years ago

Problem are the whales though... I'm a small fry and got called out by some whales already... they told me not to make waves or else I would get flagged. Lol

febradaytamarra (49) · 7 years ago

well said.!

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jademont (68) · 7 years ago

This is a serious issue for Steem community.

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generalpatton (47) · 7 years ago

Well ! I'm not sure what I just read. Something about someone's boxers. Way over my head. New here, a little minnow. If you like boats and fishing. Help me grow I will follow you in return. @generalpatton

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago

1week rewardst_55.png

From steemviz.com 1 week of rewards. This is SBD not USD.

While I would rather this wasn't on trending, if we are talking about it, let's look at it.

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

And each post looks exactly the same with just different screenshots of charts. Haejin acts like he's the Weather Channel of Crypto on Steemit. Every 30 minutes we need another Haejin update on Crypto or the world will end.

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@thabiggdogg/i-looked-at-haejin-s-youtube-videos-and-found-this

thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago (edited)

FACT: I about shit myself laughing so hard at that pic. Very hard to type right now. I have tears in my eyes. LMFAO

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steeminator3000 (74) · 7 years ago

What can I do abou this ? I don't want to be that unicorn looking horse

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reidlist (56) · 7 years ago

I guess a chastity belt. I'm not sure how to translate that through the metaphor, but at least it's a jumping off point.

cryptocatz (48) · 7 years ago

lols , it's mega cute , but me neither , not with those faks stamping on me anywayz , dirty oll dogs yuk

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olsm (57) · 7 years ago

I prefer to give rewards to my girlfriend. @rhubarb <3

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ilt-yodith (55) · 7 years ago

I can't believe I get to do this. I mean, I never get to be first on things like this. You have no idea how excited I am right now, I'm, like, giddy.

Hold on, I have to stretch my fingers out, I want this to flow out from my body on the keyboard and get saved permanently on the blockchain forever and ever, for all posterity, in this momentous occasion.

Ok....I think I'm ready.....here goes nothin'!

Ahem:

I prefer to give rewards to your girlfriend too.

zing!

Wow that felt really good. Thank you for this opportunity. It means a lot to me.

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bearbear613 (67) · 7 years ago

10 posts a day at $300 is rediculous. The simplist thing is to at least cut the amount of posts and make different call sections.

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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bearbear613 (67) · 7 years ago

yah it's not cool and greedy. I thought there was an agreement on the post payouts. Are you saying he didn't abide by the agreement?

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reidlist (56) · 7 years ago

He came back and said he would do that if all the witnesses burned equal the amount of money he was giving up or something. (which many of them don't even make)

leoo (44) · 7 years ago

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bitton (53) · 7 years ago

Does it really takes away from our rewards?
I mean, don't our rewards based on steem coin value??

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liverehab (57) · 7 years ago

No - there is a total rewards available for the day and he is "raping" more than he should by doing what he's doing in the way that he does it.

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davidconstantine (54) · 7 years ago

I think before we blame @haejin,
we should blame the system, which allows it.
In steem you can make an interest on your money if you like yourself, and this is the problem.
People just use what exists, @dan is who made it possible :)

And btw if they don't do it, the inflation will make their money go own eventually, because in steem there is huge inflation.

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reidlist (56) · 7 years ago

It's true. People act in the way that is most self-interested in any system. In order to keep things decentralized though, the solution has to come from the community.

liverehab (57) · 7 years ago

No - don't blame the system blame the people abusing it. Hold them accountable.

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inzmamnaqvi (1) · 7 years ago

Actually @haejin don't give a fuck to other members of steemit. And that is a moment of thinking for us.

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hitmeasap (71) · 7 years ago

I gotta say it Bernie. You've always been a great guy, according to me. Even though I haven't always agreed on how you do certain things. But it's always been clear to me that you've done things for the greater good. Or for things you believed was for the greater good. - And I have always appreciated that.

However, these last couple of days/weeks, have been really cool. Because now, everyone can see that you truly are one of the good guys in many different ways. I encourage you to continue with your "new you" so to speak. Still telling people like it is and all that sort of stuff, but you're doing it more on a "personal level" or whatever. I don't know. I just love it.

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whitelightxpress (66) · 7 years ago

I had something incredibly wise to say ... and by the time I reached the end of the comments section here, I forgot.
But this was the best 20 minutes of my day online so far!

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mcertic (51) · 7 years ago (edited)

I absolutely agree that everything should be equal. We do not need all the wealth to get down to a few % of people, we have that in real world, that's why we have blockchain and cryptocurrency now.

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brettcalloway (57) · 7 years ago

Once again you don't disappoint!

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stockhausen (48) · 7 years ago

So much drama :)

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edb1984 (49) · 7 years ago (edited)

Isn't all this just the same as people complaining that some people get paid more than others for doing less work? I mean sorry you can't make a system that solves that

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decomoescribir (52) · 7 years ago

He is... And you are not?

this is the stupidest post ever....

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blackybabies (57) · 7 years ago

Are you truth-seeker?

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lpreap (67) · 7 years ago

The raping of the reward pool has to stop, it's getting ridiculous!

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ssjsasha (67) · 7 years ago

It's pretty sad that just because he's a whale he can literally just say nonsense and get paid around 0.1 bitcoin per post....I won't lie if I was his position I would post 10 times a day as well but I would upvote lots of the people making good comments on my posts, and posts will positive things that I have learned throughout my life and try to share knowledge and positivity.

I am pretty sure he buys some of the coins that he pumps up and surely dumps onto his followers, not cool, double whammy

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reidlist (56) · 7 years ago

I think his whole operation revolves around pump and dumps.

skycornish (55) · 7 years ago

I hope a solution is found soon..

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bluehorseshoe (61) · 7 years ago

Any suggestions on what a smaller fish can do to help counter this issue?
Thank you for bringing it to light.

spiritualmax (64) · 7 years ago

...And I feel like I can't do anything...

Feels bad being small... Am going to grow up and help, just you wait Uncle Bern.

mejustandrew (58) · 7 years ago

I feel you, this is the exact same way that I am feeling, but I am slowly powering up...

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donaldtrumpfan (60) · 7 years ago (edited)

This activity is just simply what steemit is. An esoteric game to rape the reward pool. The "real" content isn't worth $1000 per post either. Not a huge difference if 90% of the reward is bullshit versus 100%.

randyw (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

Google it -

The King's Face

gyrosean (58) · 7 years ago (edited)

Maybe you should hit up the DTube devs as well for upvoting his videos for an additional $70-$100 each. It's like...bruh...you serious?

freebornsociety (61) · 7 years ago

No one making 50k a week cares if 10k minnows takes 10k dimes, or less, away in flags.

None of the minnows can impact what is happening.
Better we reverse the linear rewards and put in an n2 sigmoid curve that tops out at 80mvests.
That is high enough that small investors aren't overly disadvantaged, but are allowed a voice that matters in the math.
While also allowing sizable investments that make roi sense.

This is a stake based platform with severely disproportional distribution.
Setting this curve will severely impact the roi of the whales, you included.
However, doing so is an act that can only be construed as protecting the reward pool.
I think you like to be seen as putting the platform ahead of roi.
I dont like forcing folks to comply when self diciplined members make for a better community.

By setting this bar, raping the reward pool could be impacted by enough minnows ganging up.

As it is, self voting, for whatever purpose, is a bigger problem than one whale favoring his buddy.
Look at @spaminator, good in theory, but ineffective due to scale and lack of willingness to defend the pool from inconvienent truths.

markzuckerbergs (56) · 7 years ago

Take a look at sbd

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bucho (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

pretty sure it's less about people speaking out and more about most people not being able to do anything about it.

this isn't a new topic by any means, but it's certainly fucking soured me on the platform. one user fucks the platform while people who could potentially do something about stopping him don't do a fucking thing.

at that point, what's my incentive to stick around? why would i want to dip my toe into those waters when i could have all my future posts flagged down into nothing?

if people have the ability to stop the abuse and simply don't do it, then...whatever. i think that speaks volumes about the future of this place.

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reidlist (56) · 7 years ago

Yeah, it makes the long term of this place look kind of bad. Especially people who are likely buying steem on exchanges without even knowing about steemit because they see it in the top 100. If they knew this was going on I'm sure they would steer clear.

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bucho (63) · 7 years ago

basically. and this has been going on for a good long while. so long, that i've normally just stayed out of it because there's literally nothing most of us can do about it. sure, make a post. great. complain, great. but very few of us actually have any kind of power to realistically do anything about the decay of the platform in this particular instance.

shrug

it was fun for awhile. when you monetize something, someone will always find a way to scam the shit out of it and screw everyone else. if the platform won't make a correction to adjust for the garbage self-voting of comments on shit posts, then...why support the platform any more?

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heymattsokol (68) · 7 years ago

We should not stop supporting the entire Steem platform due to one problematic user. There are also thousands of users being supported in amazing ways for every one bad one who is abusing Steem.

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bucho (63) · 7 years ago

it's not just the single bad user that's the problem, though...it's the lack of action from people that COULD actually prevent the bad user from abusing the system. those two things together are a powerful way to make the platform look and work in less than ideal ways.

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heymattsokol (68) · 7 years ago

Still doesn't mean we should stop supporting steem

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bucho (63) · 7 years ago

i never said to stop supporting it...i was genuinely asking why, if the largest problems are never fixed, why one should continue supporting the platform. if the glaring issue is the one that seems to be the one most people are pissed off by, but the people who can fix it choose not to do so, then what does that say about the platform in general?

bottom line: it's not a good look and it turns a lot of people off. it certainly makes it harder to bring more people TO the platform when this kind of nonsense is pervasive.

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heymattsokol (68) · 7 years ago (edited)

Because it isnt a single easy problem that people are choosing to ignore - its a difficult problem that people are actively trying to solve. This thread is evidence that we are currently trying to fix it.

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alex-linda (42) · 7 years ago

I could understand everything except one thing.
Why do you want to eat flags?
You also have a lot of good post and .......
Let me answer my question.

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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alex-linda (42) · 7 years ago

They can not be uproot if they want to, but they are introducing their own little mind like this. For now, you will be posting them by omitting them.
Good luck for you

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mejustandrew (58) · 7 years ago

I know, but the fact is that minnows, even if they combine all of their SP, they don't succeed to equalize the SP of @haejin only. So the only way to reduce its rewards is a significant way is to be flagged by a few whales...

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spiritualmax (64) · 7 years ago

They don't care though, they're earning their slice, comfortable on those personalized Steemit pillows.

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mryuss (44) · 7 years ago

absolutely

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cebymaster (63) · 7 years ago

the truth is that his ta are without a logic, only for fun, and he will destroy the community with his posts based on anything

yoda1917 (55) · 7 years ago

Why is it that so many people endlessly bitch and complain about the few posts and self upvotes whales do.. . While minnows may engage in much more of these acts? Think about it. If you take away the factor of wallet sizes... The minnows are doing a lot more of this shit than the whales.

qwasert (48) · 7 years ago

I don't understand how this post was hidden? Can anyone explain this?

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dahlsom (44) · 7 years ago

Honestly I like his post more than the posts all the people annoyed with him are posting. And down posting me just makes me empathize more with the poor guy doing all this hard work to provide useful posts just to have people upset with how an open society works. I don't care that he's getting rich posting... as long as he's posting content I like ....

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sanees (54) · 7 years ago

if few people can skew the system like this, then it impacts what steem stands for and gives a big opening for some one else build a better decentralized blogging platform

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simba (68) · 7 years ago

Pfffft, Rainbow Dash will win :)

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indurkin (48) · 7 years ago

No one messes with Rainbow Dash!

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steemmatt (69) · 7 years ago

In one of @haejin's Bitshares videos, he says he was dumping all of his SBD for BTS (at the time). This means that he's was taking his earnings and simply dumping SBD on the open market. This makes it far worse for me, on top of his absurdly greedy strategy, with no engagement.

levitated-mind (50) · 7 years ago

This is so sad and disheartening.. What could be done about this??

j4y (45) · 7 years ago

Maybe upvotes should only come from actual people? Ban the machines!

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

That's not part of the problem here, nor is that possible.

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j4y (45) · 7 years ago (edited)

I thought he is using a bot to upvote his own posts?

It is also possible to prevent the bots from using a web app. There are many different techniques to do this. I think this is something the steemit platform could address.

kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago

No it is not possible to ban bots from using steemit. The bots do not use the web app, or if they do then they are stupid because there is a library for interacting with the steem blockchain.

If you ban the library, then the webpage won't work....

Also since the blockchain is open source someone could just create their own library to interact with the blockchain and the blockchain wouldn't be able to tell whether it was programmed in rust, c++, python, JS...

There is just so much no in your question

j4y (45) · 7 years ago

Good points and I agree. I'm not saying that I have the solution, but wanted to start a discussion to brainstorm some ideas for the community. It seems like this will be a difficult thing to solve and might require some design changes.

Anyone have other ideas other than -- No sorry it can't be fixed?

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kryzsec (59) · 7 years ago

As a community we could forgo the use of bots but unless there are enough people jumping on the bandwagon, the bot owners aren't going to shut down. We can also set up systems to fight abusive behaviors with bots (like grumpycat is doing) however that will divide the community.

Also haejin isn't using an upvote bot, he upvotes himself at 100% and ranchoralexo upvotes haejin at 100% producing a majority of haejin's rewards (roughly 71% from 2 people)

Using steemreports we can find that the other 29% is made up of over 16000 people (closer to sixteen thousand five hundred, so no I didn't add an extra zero)

However, something to say about bots is that they aren't necessarily bad. Yes if someone abuses and uses a bot then it is bad but if you use a bot for promotion/exposure (since almost nobody looks in the promoted tab) or they will use them for statistics, or for monitoring a user for abuse, or some people use bid bots to increase their reputation.

Buying a bots upvote isn't bad, just like having junk food available to by isn't bad... its when you abuse the junkfood or bots that things are bad, yo know what I am saying?

j4y (45) · 7 years ago

I think setting up systems to identify and fight the abusive behaviors is the way to go rather than banning the junk food :)

@grumpycat are you still working on a system to ID this type of thing? I'd like to learn more about it.

levitated-mind (50) · 7 years ago

What are your suggestions @berniesanders

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bartcardi (57) · 7 years ago

This is so true but why would you call out @jerrybanfield he is doing an amazing job for the steem community...

nc-mgtow (58) · 7 years ago

resteemed

keks (56) · 7 years ago

This is precisely the last licked Samurai!

travelersmemoire (58) · 7 years ago

I use to think the negativity was too much since all he was doing is posting, but some of his call ARE COMPLETE BS.

For instance Ripple at a $400+ million market cap in early 2019. That’s an unbelievable claim UNLESS some groundbreaking evidence is provided. All he did was say the charts prove it(they don’t). No other evidence was provided and he got a huge payout for BS. Who’s paying this much for that advice???

reidlist (56) · 7 years ago

He's reading tea leaves to predict new partnerships.

fechaugger (48) · 7 years ago

spreadthetruth (38) · 7 years ago

Fact: 99% of SteemIt content is moneygrabbing garbage.

duchess1 (40) · 7 years ago

FACT: Lots of people don't care about steemit/STEEM and are here for the money...

FACT: You crying constantly, isn't going to change anything. You're just clogging up the trending page with your crybaby bullshit. Grow up.

FACT: The platform was designed how it was designed, don't hate the player, hate the game... -.-

FACT: You don't like how things are here, you can leave.

FACT: Lots of people are tired of seeing you cry like a bitch daily. Get over it. You're not contributing anything AT ALL worth a shit to steemit. At least @haejin is. All you do is cry like a fucking baby day in and day out. I'd flag your annoying ass too. Jesus Christ.

phgnomo (64) · 7 years ago

Fact 1: Yes, but there is also people that care about steemit/STEEM. So they are on their right to fight for it

Fact 2: Being silent definetly wont change anything.

Fact 3: Flagging is also part of the game, so... how about dont hate @berniesanders?

Fact 4: He may leave, or he may stay. Its his choice, since this platform is open. I dont think is your opinion that will change what he thinks.

Fact 5: Only mindless haejin followers are tired of what @berniesanders is doing. Actually his actions contribute more to the Steemit than haejin, since his actions make possible to authors that dont abuse the system get a better reward. Also, haejin "analysis" is shit, and i dont care. You may lose all the money you want by following him. But the WHOLE FUCKING COMMUNITY besides haejin brainless followers may defend the reward pool from a greedy person.

Life pro tip: Always question the motivations of the people you follow.

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latestnews (40) · 7 years ago

good to read this post

just2random (62) · 7 years ago (edited)

Has anyone actually verified @Haejin? I hate people who work from the shadows.

wond2006 (44) · 7 years ago

I don't know if this is sad or funny esp. if it is true.

cryptocatz (48) · 7 years ago

aw , poor little pony >.<

jazminmillion (71) · 7 years ago

Steem it is full of those types ;p

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sebescen81 (64) · 7 years ago

How true. I've even seen him because he's got me on his nerves with his almost Spammerei.

sebescen81 (64) · 7 years ago

Bestimmt übel diese Übersetzung^^ Nochmal auf Deutsch. Wie wahr. Der ging mir mit seiner fast schon Spammerei so aufn Sa.. dass ich ihn gemutet habe. Verstehe nur nicht, dass der überhaupt soviele upvotes bekommt.

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steempark (37) · 7 years ago

Wow! :)

gvincentjosephm (59) · 7 years ago

If the post is a quality content then it deserves the best reward it can get though if the rewards are just taken by some, then they might be a problem later on. Well, I guess it's just human nature to get what he wants.

hackerwhacker (58) · 7 years ago

Wish i could make 100k per month posting charts.

epelius (44) · 7 years ago

Trust me, I made a chart.

spiritualmax (64) · 7 years ago

@epelius
Here's the trend

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thevedicway (25) · 7 years ago

Not exactly "spiritual max" hahaha!

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frantik (36) · 7 years ago

trend on what?

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cryptosuf (51) · 7 years ago

damn! i knew i seen the same pattern forming. I should've bought in at the pinky!

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evol14life (32) · 7 years ago

lmao

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hackerwhacker (58) · 7 years ago

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howtostartablog (65) · 7 years ago

All of us wish to :(

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spiritualmax (64) · 7 years ago

All of us could with a friend like Rancho

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mryuss (44) · 7 years ago

they've brought crisis here on steemit and i think berniesanders needs another whales to put a stop on it? am i right?

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peppermint24 (69) · 7 years ago

Hi there to all fighters against unfair guys.
For this comment

This guy here @manfoundstanding flagt down my account what stand for a REALLIFE support project in Southamerica. Check his wallet and you see, whats going on. I think he is the owner of @earthnation-bot.

It is not a big bundle of SBD but for these 3rd world country 10 o 12 SBD is a lot. So - if you want to support me to get this SDB back, what these guy was burning to support this shit without knowlege what is going.
Thanks for every upvote!

droopy (50) · 7 years ago (edited)

As a minnow what can we do to help? I agree its a problem and wouldn't investing in a solution, but short of buying a huge amount of steem and downvoting him I'm not what I could do. Would buying steem and downvoting him even actually help?

fuckmylife (59) · 7 years ago

shooter850 (48) · 7 years ago

Thanks for the information, it’s good to know what’s going on behind the scenes...

tiffanyrej (52) · 7 years ago

Who is this haejin?

cifer (60) · 7 years ago

niubility!

godo (49) · 7 years ago

WTF is up with these whales setting bad examples, time for a whale fall!
@berniesanders

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chrislo2004 (52) · 7 years ago

people get more upvotes by not putting their own photos as a profile picture, it has totally nothing to do about reaping rewards from works, see i put my own photo as profile , a real person, nothing fake and yet i dont get much upvotes writing good posts at times not even 'views' , maybe i dont even exist! .. lolz the only thing to console myself in steemit is to upvote myself...geez.... i got that 2 cents (at least i got my right to upvote myself to get my own rewards or else it would be wasted)...happy me today... hm... maybe i should ought to learn from you guys , put something more popular a cartoon, a pop actor, singer, write more dramas, get into clans...speak more vulgar.... i dunno ...okay i am happy that you noticed me commenting ....at least i exist...

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thatanimesnob (48) · 7 years ago

@haejin is like those episodic anime theorists on Youtube who make 3 videos every day based on assumptions. One of them is bound to be right once a month. They get such a huge following that thousands are willing to defend them, in hopes of a shoutout or mention that will boost their own channels.

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thabiggdogg (56) · 7 years ago

You will probably go to -20 from this post.

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saveron23 (49) · 7 years ago

Good :(

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fuckmylife (59) · 7 years ago

Don't steal, don't lie, don't cheat, don't sell drugs. The government hates competition!

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ronel (61) · 7 years ago

Oh that's very sad.
This is not good.
What shall we do?

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ygriffiny (46) · 7 years ago

Credit to the community for the number of upvotes here. Impressive.

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prantik (25) · 7 years ago

@berniesanders , thanks

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